I see Marching has his hard core Tory hat on tonight
Strong and Stable Chaos
Strong and Stable Chaos
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Boris Johnson has certainly changed his tune since 2005...
Boris Johnson has certainly changed his tune since 2005...
Corbyn interview time. Come on Jeremy!
I'm sorry?
What good have they done with the weapons besides killing scores of Yemeni children and having them find their way in the possession of jihadists? How has that benefited Britain in any way?
Is it feck!
Neil going in heavy on Corbyn's IRA connections. Not sure he's handling it too well.
He's not giving any straight answers, doesn't look good to me.
He's really not doing well on NATO, kind of dodging the question a little bit.
Why would people support a leader who supported the IRA?
Kinda fecking question is that. Ridoculous2
Corbyn is trying to maintain dignity but his calls for restrain and to finish his lines won't sit well sadly. Need a stronger second half.
I don't think it's ridiculous for Neil to call up Corbyn's past connections and in particular McDonnell and Abbott's comments, which are worse.
Connections. Not flat out saying he supported the IRA. McDonnel is the one who has the issues not Corbyn
He's doing ok.Don't think the average person cares to much about his past. They've read it all before
And Neil rightfully called that up as well. Under Corbyn, McDonnell would be the second most powerful man in any Labour government.
The question itself might have been a bit hysterical though, and Neil did seem to be misconstruing Corbyn's point on the initial question on terrorism.
Don't think he's doing that well to be honest. This format does not suit him in the slightest.
The BBC misconstruing Corbyn's point? Never.
Considering he's got the momentum right now, the Tories run the risk of looking like they're just trying to deflect away from their own problems and that they're going with a negative approach, especially when Corbyn's positive ideas seem to be resonating with a lot of people.
Corbyn's coming across as evasive, deliberately not stating his true thoughts. If you've bet on him I'd cash out now.
BBC are the puppets of the Tories now
He's more of a soft-spoken, discussion type of person, while Neil likes to constantly grill his interviewees and will often interrupt/talk over them. I don't mind Neil sometimes because he can be very good at giving a grilling and putting politicians on the spot, but sometimes it can feel like he's trying to be too Paxman-esque.
Presumably you didn't see their criticism of the Tories throughout...well, most of the past couple of weeks? Or May getting grilled by Neil as well?
Nah this is just Andrew Neil, always likes this.
I still maintain that IRA assertion is completely uncalled for from the BBC though
He's having a better second half but it's not been the performance he'd have wanted going into this.
The questions have been weighed against him but at the same time, a bolder, less dignified leader would have replied more assertively in the first half. The IRA stuff wasn't relative to the policies of the manifesto directly whereas there was very little historical references in May's (huge decision switcher) interview.
Just hope the people can relate with a rational if evasive man rather than a blatant liar and decision flipper.
The questions have been weighed against him but at the same time, a bolder, less dignified leader would have replied more assertively in the first half. The IRA stuff wasn't relative to the policies of the manifesto directly whereas there was very little historical references in May's (huge decision switcher) interview.
Just hope the people can relate with a rational if evasive man rather than a blatant liar and decision flipper.
The best part of that was the end.
He did shit.
He'll do better in the QT one, that requires warmth which he has and May entirely doesn't.
Was May on prior to Corbyn? Missed it
Yes, she also did shit.
I'm not talking about Andrew O'Neill .I'm saying the BBC are the Tories puppet
Not great, though I thought he came across better than May (probably just my bias). Don't think there was really any major damage there, so I'm not too concerned. Certainly not getting a swath of voters based from it though.
Not great from Corbyn. May was worse, though.
In what respect?
The IRA stuff is pretty divisive stuff in Northern Irish conversations regarding Corbyn (for obvious reasons). I've still yet to grasp how much impact it has with the English (given they generally don't even know the country exists).
I can't help but feel he would come across better if he just apologised for it and got rid of that eejit he wants to make chancellor.
I can't help but feel he would come across better if he just apologised for it and got rid of that eejit he wants to make chancellor.
He did better than May, but it wasn't a good performance from Corbyn.
I agree, very shakey first half but he recovered slightly in the second, i feel he did better than May but i don't think either party came out looking good.
Just watching it now. Can't believe Neill just said Corbyn supported the IRA. What the actual feck. 
The nature of the quesions make it difficult to shine. It's all about the ammunition he has and with May most of the questions were more directly linked to recent matters.
Quite a lot of the questions Corbyn had was around the IRA and comments of other from several years ago. Not that none of it mattered, but I'm not sure how much people care about his comments made in the 90s. Without a clearer context, it becomes wishy washy and less damaging.
The more I think of it, May fecked up. The questions she got were based off her very recent actions or comments and she was a hell of a lot more evasive in questions. She should have at least varied her response to questions. No one like politicians not answering the question, but she should have done better at it if she wasn't going to give any clear responses.
This is a fecking hit piece. Disgusting behaviour by the BBC.
Just watching it now. Can't believe Neill just said Corbyn supported the IRA. What the actual feck.
You must be the only person in the country that didn't see it coming then. The thing is that despite having years to practice his replies he came across as just plain shifty. He was at least partly right on the issue, but is incapable of getting that across.