"It is grotesque to use responses to the tragedy to score political points" said Tim Farron, while using the response to the tragedy to score a political point
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"It is grotesque to use responses to the tragedy to score political points" said Tim Farron, while using the response to the tragedy to score a political point
I suppose that's the standard Labour response to any criticism.
'You didn't listen'
'You don't get it'
'Evil Tory'
Etc.
Etc.
God forbid you might be wrong.
'Austerity has to stop at the A&E ward and at the police station door' - great line
If he had a spine then he would admit that he does.
God forbid you'd actually keep your bias to yourself before listening to what someone has to say.
No. They'very actually moved in to attacking the timing of the speech rather than it's content
Latest Tory press release.
Fallon: There is never an excuse for terrorism
Responding to Jeremy Corbyn’s suggestion that British foreign policy was the cause of this week’s terrorist atrocity, the Defence Secretary, Sir Michael Fallon, said:
“Jeremy Corbyn could be Prime Minister of our country in less than two weeks’ time yet he has said only days after one of the worst terrorist atrocities this country has ever known that terror attacks in Britain are our own fault.
“There can be no ‘buts’ when it comes to condemning the unspeakable evil carried out by these extremists. There are no justifications, and there is never an excuse for terrorism. Let me spell something out for Mr Corbyn: There are no excuses for what was done in Manchester.
“This isn’t some slip of the tongue. Jeremy Corbyn is a very consistent man, he has a very long track-record of siding with people who want to damage and attack Britain. He and his team come from an extreme and ideological world that is too quick to make excuses for the actions of our enemies and too willing to oppose the measures and people that keep us safe.
“The choice has just become even starker: it’s between Theresa May, acting to protect our national interest and keep our country safe, and Jeremy Corbyn, who is simply not up to the job.”
ENDS
Fallon: There is never an excuse for terrorism
Responding to Jeremy Corbyn’s suggestion that British foreign policy was the cause of this week’s terrorist atrocity, the Defence Secretary, Sir Michael Fallon, said:
“Jeremy Corbyn could be Prime Minister of our country in less than two weeks’ time yet he has said only days after one of the worst terrorist atrocities this country has ever known that terror attacks in Britain are our own fault.
“There can be no ‘buts’ when it comes to condemning the unspeakable evil carried out by these extremists. There are no justifications, and there is never an excuse for terrorism. Let me spell something out for Mr Corbyn: There are no excuses for what was done in Manchester.
“This isn’t some slip of the tongue. Jeremy Corbyn is a very consistent man, he has a very long track-record of siding with people who want to damage and attack Britain. He and his team come from an extreme and ideological world that is too quick to make excuses for the actions of our enemies and too willing to oppose the measures and people that keep us safe.
“The choice has just become even starker: it’s between Theresa May, acting to protect our national interest and keep our country safe, and Jeremy Corbyn, who is simply not up to the job.”
ENDS
He did say he agreed with the points but not the timing. The reporters only wheel him out for "i disagree with Labour quotes" take that away and you'd never hear from him.
Yet to hear a reporter ask if not now when can we discuss it? Or given he's running for election doesn't he have to....ah well rent a quote
That's all he's got....great lines with no realistic policies to change anything. All well and good blaming or foreign policy for the terrorist attacks but what will he do to stop the attacks.
Or just lying about its contents. Boris just said it is monstrous to suggest that terrorists are in some sense not culpable for their actions, which Corbyn explicitly said was not the case / what he was was stating.
What is he going to do to stop people dying in car accidents?
He's saying we should stop creating the conditions for terrorism to be possible. Stop destroying other countries and turning them into terror training hotbeds, stop selling arms to nations that sponsor terrorism, stop cutting police budgets. Stopping the attacks isn't as simple as going through a thesaurus and finding the best word to condemn the terrorists, you also have to create the conditions where people don't want to bomb you in the first place.
Its a good job Corbyn said exactly that then isnt it.
There has never been a speech given that details exactly how a policy will be implimented. It's not the format for it. A lot more Police will help however
Fallon is going to launch another test missile at Florida if he gets any angrier.
It's more that your criticisms genuinely read like someone who didn't actually listen to the speech.
It's incredible that the Tories think they can get away with using Assad embracing Fallon to make that statement.
What's his response going to be when asked about the snooper's charter?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but it wasn't the condemnation of the IRA bombings that stopped them.
Are people really expecting for election campaigning to resume without some discussion of the events of Monday?
I hope he takes his speech script on tonights interview and reads word for word what he said in regards to justification or excuses. Then calls Farron and Fallon pricks for using manchester to attack him.
"Corbyn quotes Sir Michael Fallon in terror speech"
It's not enough to say we should stop creating conditions for terrorists. Do you really think if we looked the other way and did not get involved they would go away? Foreign policy is not why ISIS hate us. They hate everything we stand for so will hate and bomb us whether we have the foreign policy we have or not. I agree police numbers are down and I'd be happier with more of them....having said that they are hugely successful at stopping attacks (13 in 2 years) and they and the rest of the security forces are doing a good job rounding up the terror cell around Manchester.
The point is ISIS wouldn't exist if wasn't for our foreign policy. Perhaps we should stop pretending history started at the latest terror attack and look at the decades of misguided and horrific wars we started that have lead us where we are. How many times are we going to ship weapons and soldiers abroad, and continue to be surprised when someone attacks us?
Do you think every war we've been in during the last 20 years has made us safer? Or even those countries safer?
It's amazing how selling arms to everyone with a buck is fine because those companies pay taxes, but if you point out the consequences of funding every conflict going you're a terrorist sympathiser.
Absolutely agree with Corbyn what he said about the terrorism .And to see the scoring of political points disguised as fake outrage is laughable .
We will have to agree to disagree. ISIS want to impose their warped version of Islam on us all.
The errors we and the rest of the coalition have made is we left a vacuum behind rather than staying longer. But to pretend the likes of ISIS would not be around if we simply ignored problems around the world is daft.
Fecking knew it.
Well then you agree with Corbyn that foreign policy errors have been made. How any government prevents these in the future is obviously a big question but a goverment that admits those errors and is aware of repercussions is vital.
Tories on the other hand have been denying any links or errors this morning so there you go.
Fallon being a representative of my alma mater makes me sad. He's such a wee shitebag.
The reason there was a vacuum was because of our actions in the first place. The real pretence here is that there was any justification for those wars in the first place.
The he has said part seems to be crossing a line doesn't it? I can see repercussions on that
Maybe the Tories will send our Foreign Secretary on a peacemaking tour of the middle-east.
It also shows us that the defense secretary doesn't understand the political history and the creation of power vacuums that have meant organisations such as ISIS have been able to grow, which itself is concerning. You don't put a fire out by throwing sticks at it and then blindly walking off.
The attack line is not going to work either judging by this poll
Is it a select audience or was it a public poll? If it was the latter, obviously there are more left-wing Labour supporters online.