Gary Neville

If "FFS give me a break" is your level of discussion then I have nothing else to answer to that.
Thought that may be the case, as you didn’t want to answer any of it.

would rather just throw out accusations and then hide from them
 
Thought that may be the case, as you didn’t want to answer any of it.

would rather just throw out accusations and then hide from them

You mean like Gary Neville did? On live television while millions of people watched us getting hammered?
 
Madness that people think Bruno’s whinging is the fault of Gary Neville for mentioning it???

He pushed a linesman, kept going down soft holding his face then moaning at the ref over it, but yeah, Neville’s fault I guess…

I’m starting to believe that the only people worried about Neville’s omnipotent influence are the ones that are actually influenced by the things he says.
You’d have a point in defending Gary if one of your examples wasn’t Gary saying Bruno wasn’t hit in the face and didn’t stop going on about it even after the replays clearly showed it didn’t.
Every player moans when they get slapped in the jaw.
It’s harder to defend Gary than Bruno but you’re trying your best here
 
You’d have a point in defending Gary if one of your examples wasn’t Gary saying Bruno wasn’t hit in the face and didn’t stop going on about it even after the replays clearly showed it didn’t.
Every player moans when they get slapped in the jaw.
It’s harder to defend Gary than Bruno but you’re trying your best here
I’m not defending Gary, he says some stupid shit. I’m saying that people should stop getting all up in arms about his supposed influence that he definitely doesn’t have and just take these comments in the same way you take Sounesses comments.
 
You’d have a point in defending Gary if one of your examples wasn’t Gary saying Bruno wasn’t hit in the face and didn’t stop going on about it even after the replays clearly showed it didn’t.
Every player moans when they get slapped in the jaw.
It’s harder to defend Gary than Bruno but you’re trying your best here
You tried this weird either or defence question with too, it isn’t a competition who is the biggest whinger or who deserves more defence. One can think both are moaners while not hating both or needing to defend one more than the other.
 
I’m not defending Gary, he says some stupid shit. I’m saying that people should stop getting all up in arms about his supposed influence that he definitely doesn’t have and just take these comments in the same way you take Sounesses comments.
You are, you may not think you are but you are.
It’s why you had to alter his point about Bruno getting a slap on the jaw to diminish the criticism. Are there many examples of players getting slapped on the jaw that doesn’t have them going to ground? Honest question because I can’t think of one myself.
Bad punditry gets called out. It’s weird as feck some posters get up in arms about it because of who they played for previously.
 
You tried this weird either or defence question with too, it isn’t a competition who is the biggest whinger or who deserves more defence. One can think both are moaners while not hating both or needing to defend one more than the other.
One can think he’s a whiner without making shit up about him, no? Why invent things to whine about then?
You’re blinded by him being a United fan.
 
One can think he’s a whiner without making shit up about him, no? Why invent things to whine about then?
You’re blinded by him being a United fan.
I said in a post earlier I thought Neville was wrong for doing that and should apologise.
 
So you’re arguing against criticism of him for what reason?
i was arguing against The constant hate he gets, the saying he’s spreading lies. The Saying he’s damaged the club. The accusations of racism. The mass over reaction to him.

He can make a mistake in the heat of the moment without having to be burned at the stake. He should apologise and say he got it wrong.
 
Mother of God, Ramshock. Such nonsense. Well hey, as a Scouser, Gary is certainly doing our lot a solid this week. The Caf, instead of focusing on a historically tragic 45 minutes at Anfield from our heroes, has risen in righteous fury at a stupid misreading of a gesture by the villainous Gary Nev. He's a bit shit at this evil genius lark.
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You are, you may not think you are but you are.
It’s why you had to alter his point about Bruno getting a slap on the jaw to diminish the criticism. Are there many examples of players getting slapped on the jaw that doesn’t have them going to ground? Honest question because I can’t think of one myself.
Bad punditry gets called out. It’s weird as feck some posters get up in arms about it because of who they played for previously.
I’m not defending Neville, Bruno has been doing petulant shit since he joined. He’s done it less this season but his worst traits come out when we’re at our worst.

My actual point was to another poster who said that Neville has influence and everyone listens to what he says which is unfair on Bruno. I asked him to name another player who’s got an unfair reputation bestowed upon him by pundits and is punished for it and how many times has Fernandes been booked for dissent if he has a reputation for moaning. If Bruno does get booked for moaning, it’s because of him, not something Neville might have said.

So I’m not defending Neville, I’m simply saying Bruno should take accountability for anything that happens to him based on his actions.
 
It's fascinating how Neville has somehow managed to be attacked relentlessy by the Caf for undermining United, and at the same time being attacked by rival fans for being way too biased towards United
 
The main problem with Neville’s outbursts for me, is that they get stated as fact all over mainstream and social media.
There’s been a deluge of ‘Bruno asked to be subbed’ headlines when he did no such thing.
The same applies to United ‘fouls’ and ‘offsides’ that Neville spouts out before he’s thought about it or seen a replay.
He is quoted as factual simply because he is/was a top red.
 
He was part of one of the greatest eras in football history and thinks that gives him the right to look down on everyone. I wouldn’t go as far as saying they don’t want United to succeed but some of our ex-players have a such an ego that United being successful without them would be hard to take, unless one of their mates are in charge of course.
 
and at the same time being attacked by rival fans for being way too biased towards United
They are always moaning about pundits and referee bias towards us, though we continue to get trash from both pundits and refs. They are just deluded.
 
The accusation Bruno wanted to get subbed which is untrue, not to mention the video which doesnt at all prove it, has stuck. Is Neville aware what's he doing and does he has an intention of apologizing for that.
 
Honestly I'd love the club to refuse to give interviews to this attention seeking idiot.

Utd legend and all, but very damaging to the club right now with his constant drama.
 
I find it odd on the same website that has a thread saying "we'll never win the league with Bruno" so many are also defending him to the hilt.

Every single person I know who doesn't support United pretty much to a man and woman hates him for all his antics and its not because Gary Neville said words on the TV, its from his own actions.

Sure he got the thing wrong about him wanted to be subbed, but the rest of it he was bang on the money about, for a captain to play and have the attitude he had in 2nd half was unbelievably bad
 
He went overboard on the bruno asking to be subbed, but Brunos half assed attempt to tackle then completely give up was a worse offence for me.
 
He went overboard on the bruno asking to be subbed, but Brunos half assed attempt to tackle then completely give up was a worse offence for me.

One does not equal the other.

Bruno's half assed attempt to tackle will be scrutinized internally by the manager and of course us fans. Its typical laziness by a footballer in the dying minutes of a dead game.

Neville's attack on Bruno's character, so as to say "look at this bluffer, Man Utd captain asking to be subbed off, pathetic" unfairly brings Bruno's entire professional competitiveness into question, by all fans (us and rivals) including idiots like Merson and the like who will repeat the fake news from now until eternity and turn it into reality.
 
Honestly I'd love the club to refuse to give interviews to this attention seeking idiot.

Utd legend and all, but very damaging to the club right now with his constant drama.
Too many hysterical fans buy into his nonsense. It’s what Sky are aiming for
 
I wish this thread was dead to me, and for everyone else.

And no, I won’t ignore the thread as I enjoy hating things.
 
Too many hysterical fans buy into his nonsense. It’s what Sky are aiming for

Repeat the same lie often enough and eventually enough people will believe it as the truth. Unfortunately, its the world we live in. No fact checking, just repeat the same and hope shit sticks.

An example is Keane vs Haaland senior with Keane ending the latter's career. This lie is repeated everytime Haaland plays or Keane is on TV, whereas we all know its a lie and Haaland played for a few more seasons after the incident.

This Neville lie (and the after-result Merson and co articles) may well damage Bruno's entire career from here on, and its frustrating seeing there's no accountability to being untruthful just to gain some airtime and be trending.
 
Repeat the same lie often enough and eventually enough people will believe it as the truth. Unfortunately, its the world we live in. No fact checking, just repeat the same and hope shit sticks.

An example is Keane vs Haaland senior with Keane ending the latter's career. This lie is repeated everytime Haaland plays or Keane is on TV, whereas we all know its a lie and Haaland played for a few more seasons after the incident.

This Neville lie (and the after-result Merson and co articles) may well damage Bruno's entire career from here on, and its frustrating seeing there's no accountability to being untruthful just to gain some airtime and be trending.
This is hysterical nonsense. It’s not going to damage his career
 
Repeat the same lie often enough and eventually enough people will believe it as the truth. Unfortunately, its the world we live in. No fact checking, just repeat the same and hope shit sticks.

An example is Keane vs Haaland senior with Keane ending the latter's career. This lie is repeated everytime Haaland plays or Keane is on TV, whereas we all know its a lie and Haaland played for a few more seasons after the incident.

This Neville lie (and the after-result Merson and co articles) may well damage Bruno's entire career from here on, and its frustrating seeing there's no accountability to being untruthful just to gain some airtime and be trending.
Yep you already have people either defending the lie or downplaying it as if Bruno being stained with one of the worst acts in football doesn’t affect his reputation.
 
:lol: Yeah, I’m not a United fan because Bruno pushed the lino. Snowflake city in here tonight.
It's a shame you can't understand a post. Do I need to spell it out for you?

1)You accuse Bruno of pushing the linesman when actually the linesman was grabbing and pushing him much more (watch the clip).

2) I explain this to you in my post

3) Your response is "Yeah, I’m not a United fan because Bruno pushed the lino."

With this level of understanding In surprised you can even spell snowflake.
 
Work for Sky Sports long enough and you end up being a complete idiot.

If you are already an idiot before you join Sky then you turn into a complete imbecile :)
 
Madness that people think Bruno’s whinging is the fault of Gary Neville for mentioning it???

He pushed a linesman, kept going down soft holding his face then moaning at the ref over it, but yeah, Neville’s fault I guess…

I’m starting to believe that the only people worried about Neville’s omnipotent influence are the ones that are actually influenced by the things he says.

No. The reason people are getting onto Gary Neville is because he made up a lie. He said Bruno is begging to come off... which from the clips is an obvious lie. Since then... Sky sports have tweeted the clip with Neville in quotes.

Gary Neville and Sky sports are pushing an agenda that is not there.. he clearly didn't beg to come off did he?

Also... your post shows alot of hypocrisy... in one sentence you say... he kept going down easily and moaning (which imo is wrong from Bruno) then you go onto say he "Pushed" a linesman... when he actually didn't push him like that did he..

So in this instance you are doing exactly what you are accusing Bruno of doing... being soft.
 
It's a shame you can't understand a post. Do I need to spell it out for you?

1)You accuse Bruno of pushing the linesman when actually the linesman was grabbing and pushing him much more (watch the clip).

2) I explain this to you in my post

3) Your response is "Yeah, I’m not a United fan because Bruno pushed the lino."

With this level of understanding In surprised you can even spell snowflake.
Oh okay, so because the linesman pushed Bruno first, him pushing him back didn’t happen?

Your honour, I cannot be guilty of doing something because someone else did it to me first, but much more. Therefore I should be acquitted.

I hope you don’t practice law in any capacity.
 
Neville is on the same line as guys like this:




Also, did mr. Doyle, chief writer for Liverpool Echo and Neville go up in arms when Liverpool players were doing stuff like this.

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Not to mention Robertson had a far worse dive in the same game.
 
No. The reason people are getting onto Gary Neville is because he made up a lie. He said Bruno is begging to come off... which from the clips is an obvious lie. Since then... Sky sports have tweeted the clip with Neville in quotes.

Gary Neville and Sky sports are pushing an agenda that is not there.. he clearly didn't beg to come off did he?

Also... your post shows alot of hypocrisy... in one sentence you say... he kept going down easily and moaning (which imo is wrong from Bruno) then you go onto say he "Pushed" a linesman... when he actually didn't push him like that did he..

So in this instance you are doing exactly what you are accusing Bruno of doing... being soft.
I’m not accusing or defending anyone. When you stop trying to pick sides for a second and look at this holistically, Neville talks shit on a regular basis, he has no influence anyway so why get all worked up about him lying or reacting emotionally to something that didn’t happen like he said it did, and at the same time, if Bruno wants to stop people saying these things about him then perhaps he should stop doing the shit that people are accusing him of?

I don’t care if he did or didn’t wave his hands to come off, I do care that he acted like a slapped arse when we needed a captain to take control of the game. It’s a bad look for him and United as a whole.
 
I have zero interest in the inner workings of Chelsea or Liverpool, or anyone outside of United, and I don’t get any of that information from Gary Neville, and even if I did, him saying something that I saw live and don’t agree with doesn’t mean he has any more influence than a drunk shouting the same nonsense in a bar. We all know it didn’t happen so how much influence can he have? It’s not like we live in a Gary Neville dictatorship where they’ve edited all the media to make it look like that’s what happened.
I'm sorry, are you living in a bubble? Everywhere I look this week everyone is piling on Bruno, pundits, journalists, oppo fans, our "fans".