Gary Neville - Pundit

I actually don't mind Gary in general, but as a high profile pundit he's dangerous for the club.

His views on the Man Utd manager position are highly romanticised by Sir Alex, and he seems to think he speaks for the fans, when he doesn't. Not even close.
 
I'm not sure if the way he carries on when on TV necessarily means he wouldn't privately advise Ratcliffe and co to cut Ten Hag loose if he was pulled aside at todays meeting.
 
He is becoming insufferable these past few years. I didn’t think I would ever say this but I prefer Jamie to Neville recently especially on all things United.
 
I don't mind GN, I think a lot of the talk on here saying he's anti United is absolutely off the mark. He sometimes tries too hard to be neutral but ultimately he's a United fan at heart. People complain about him having too big a voice, I agree though it could be worse when you have people like Goldbridge with 2 million subscribers.
 
Why is there such a night and day view on ten hag Fallings when it comes to gary neville and Scholes.

I understand gary saying he won't call for the sacking of a manger but grow some balls and at least criticise him for his clear errors instead of almost absolving him of all blame and making weak excuses for his failings. Scholes hasn't called for his sacking but rightly has called it as it when it comes to his failings as manager of united.
 
Lee565 said:
Why is there such a night and day view on ten hag Fallings when it comes to gary neville and Scholes.

I understand gary saying he won't call for the sacking of a manger but grow some balls and at least criticise him for his clear errors instead of almost absolving him of all blame and making weak excuses for his failings. Scholes hasn't called for his sacking but rightly has called it as it when it comes to his failings as manager of united.
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Neville publicly backed himself into a corner years ago when he said live on Sky he’d never advocate any manager getting the sack. He’s got to stick to that now, I’d imagine privately it’s a different story seeing as he’s got no issue burning through managers at Salford.
 
FrankWhite said:
I don't mind GN, I think a lot of the talk on here saying he's anti United is absolutely off the mark. He sometimes tries too hard to be neutral but ultimately he's a United fan at heart. People complain about him having too big a voice, I agree though it could be worse when you have people like Goldbridge with 2 million subscribers.
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I don't think he means to be anti anything. But his views are often so bad when it comes to anything United related.
 
UnsungHero said:
I actually don't mind Gary in general, but as a high profile pundit he's dangerous for the club.

His views on the Man Utd manager position are highly romanticised by Sir Alex, and he seems to think he speaks for the fans, when he doesn't. Not even close.
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A, most of us "highly romanticise" the United manager role. It is why there is pages of debate about finding the right candidate.

I dont get that impression he thinks he is speaking for the fans. But he has said that he will never call for a managers sacking in his role as pundut. And that applies to any club.
 
Lee565 said:
Why is there such a night and day view on ten hag Fallings when it comes to gary neville and Scholes.

I understand gary saying he won't call for the sacking of a manger but grow some balls and at least criticise him for his clear errors instead of almost absolving him of all blame and making weak excuses for his failings. Scholes hasn't called for his sacking but rightly has called it as it when it comes to his failings as manager of united.
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Because he is a big part of the football media at Sky, when they go to grounds they will get certain privileges afforded to them.

If they are bad mouthing Utd and banging on about how bad everything at the club is, some doors will be closed. He knows that will be the case. I remember someone (could have been Mark Lawrenson) going on about how City invite all the press in for these extravagant meals on match days. Probably part of the reason why they don't bang on much about City's charges in the media. They probably wouldn't be invited to those things if they did, and that's probably more important to them/their employers than what they say on TV.

I'd imagine Scholes doesn't really care about any of that stuff, but Neville does. He knows the game and he's playing it.
 
Lee565 said:
Why is there such a night and day view on ten hag Fallings when it comes to gary neville and Scholes.

I understand gary saying he won't call for the sacking of a manger but grow some balls and at least criticise him for his clear errors instead of almost absolving him of all blame and making weak excuses for his failings. Scholes hasn't called for his sacking but rightly has called it as it when it comes to his failings as manager of united.
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Neville is a career man and (same as Rio for example) wants good relationship (and open doors) with the club. That is why he always speaks in gloves.
And it paid off for both of them; regular interviews with players and manager and Neville even got some sort of ambassadorial role few days ago.
In short; Gary is a weasel. Very, very smart and competent one.

That is why, as pundits of course, i respect Scholes and Keane. I don't agree with them in lots of things but they give honest opinion about everything (except in Ole's reign but he is their good friend so i can understand them regarding that part).
 
Andycoleno9 said:
Neville is a career man and (same as Rio for example) wants good relationship (and open doors) with the club. That is why he always speaks in gloves.
And it paid off for both of them; regular interviews with players and manager and Neville even got some sort of ambassadorial role few days ago.
In short; Gary is a weasel. Very, very smart and competent one.

That is why, as pundits of course, i respect Scholes and Keane. I don't agree with them in lots of things but they give honest opinion about everything (except in Ole's reign but he is their good friend so i can understand them regarding that part).
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Same with Keano avoiding criticising Ronaldo after he refused to come on as a sub. He didn't want to be "off the Christmas card list", as Neville put it.
 
I like Gary, he does at times say crazy things. The only thing I dislike is he tries to talk about too many things - politics, boxing etc.. I like what he's done with fan interaction. Whether you enjoy him or not (as a pundit) he's left a pretty good mark on football media.
 
Don’t mind him as a pundit, cannot stand him when he’s commentating United games. It’s like he actively goes out of his way to display anti-bias to the point he slags us off and bigs up our opponents for the entire 90. Granted, majority of the slagging off is somewhat justified, as we don’t help ourself, but he goes way overboard.
 
Leethal said:
Don’t mind him as a pundit, cannot stand him when he’s commentating United games. It’s like he actively goes out of his way to display anti-bias to the point he slags us off and bigs up our opponents for the entire 90. Granted, majority of the slagging off is somewhat justified, as we don’t help ourself, but he goes way overboard.
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I remember when he used to commentate on Youth cup games. He used to tut and sigh when United players misplaced a pass. I think part of the problem is definitely him trying to not appear bias but I also think he expects perfection from anyone in a United shirt and the two combined just make him a pain to listen to.
He also tries too hard to make a memorable quote about a big incident, which usually ends up being way over the top.
 
The assuredness he speaks with when talking about United’s problems is a bit too strong. He makes it sound so obvious and so easy how to fix everything. It’s not.

Otherwise, I am a fan of his
 
RDCR07 said:
He is becoming insufferable these past few years. I didn’t think I would ever say this but I prefer Jamie to Neville recently especially on all things United.
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Would have to agree with you and I can't stand Carragher, but he's talking more sense than Neville.
Nevilles ego is through the roof.
 
Jock Steins Boots said:
Would have to agree with you and I can't stand Carragher, but he's talking more sense than Neville.
Nevilles ego is through the roof.
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Few people take the stick, especially from Keane on the overlap, as well as he does. Also he takes the mick out of himself so much of the time on the overlap. I think this makes it harder to reconcile with him being so forthright on so many subjects, especially United, where he seems to believe that his opinions are definitive.

We all get things wrong. Ferguson selected his successor at both Aberdeen and United and both were unmitigated disasters. At some point, Gary should hold his hand up and reflect that maybe he cares too much about United and analyse other games where he has emotional detachment. Would make for better viewing all round and probably improve his well being.
 
If he put replies on here he'd get more points than Utd have got..
He's a ass kisser isn't he like lots of them, say this get that. Advertise this get that( example).
He's not alone either its easy money for ex pros to do the media circuit and be controversial for being controversial sake. I don't mind him
 
I think Ten Hag oversaw two of the worst transfers Manchester United will ever have made in the signings of Casemiro and Antony.

Casemiro is one of the worst transfers ever? Not Mount or Maguire or Sancho? Guy is pathetic.
After watching a lot of his content and reading a lot of his statements i will say it; guy is a big nationalist. Too big for my liking.
 
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Andycoleno9 said:
I think Ten Hag oversaw two of the worst transfers Manchester United will ever have made in the signings of Casemiro and Antony.

Casemiro is one of the worst transfers ever? Not Mount or Maguire or Sancho? Guy is pathetic.
After watching a lot of his content and reading a lot of his statements i will say it; guy is a big nationalist. Too big for my liking.
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I mean Antony is certainly up there but Casemiro had an excellent first season (I'm sure the revisionists will be out in force now, but he did) although he plummeted last season. He has demonstrated far more at times than the three English players you suggested ever had. Sancho had a few decent games but was largely a non-entity - just like Mount has been.

Maguire has obviously been a train-wreck at times and at an even higher fee than Casemiro.

Anyway, agree that Neville spouts copious amounts of shite whilst adorning a metaphorical St George flag.
 
ForFuchsSake said:
I mean Antony is certainly up there but Casemiro had an excellent first season (I'm sure the revisionists will be out in force now, but he did) although he plummeted last season. He has demonstrated far more at times than the three English players you suggested ever had. Sancho had a few decent games but was largely a non-entity - just like Mount has been.

Maguire has obviously been a train-wreck at times and at an even higher fee than Casemiro.

Anyway, agree that Neville spouts copious amounts of shite whilst adorning a metaphorical St George flag.
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Yup. Casemiro did at least provide a large amount of good performances in his first season. He was arguably the best defensive midfielder in the league during that October-February period.
 
By far the best pundit on any channel, says what he sees; how he sees it. People here moan about him not being nice to us but we've been shite and I'd rather than than him being another pathetic Redknapp or Carragher... or worse still: a clown like Richards. I rather like Alan Smith as well
 
I Still believe Casimero can be a valuable player for us this season in amorim system, he along with who ever was in our midfield were heavily exploited under ten hag system
 
mitchmouse said:
By far the best pundit on any channel, says what he sees; how he sees it. People here moan about him not being nice to us but we've been shite and I'd rather than than him being another pathetic Redknapp or Carragher... or worse still: a clown like Richards. I rather like Alan Smith as well
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Alan Smith just comes accross as a genuine nice guy. I like him and hope it's never revealed he indeed isn't Mr nice guy, and ruins my perception of the man.
 
Have liked him for a while as a pundit but I do think he's gone up his own arse a bit recently. He's become a little bit annoying.
 
His Huel ad reading makes me want to buy Huel even less than knowing Huel makes your shit smell like Huel.
 
He moves his arms around too much when he talks. He looks like one of the puppets from Team America.
 
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