Gary Neville - Pundit
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Jesus Christ what a take. Back then it was one of the cheapest positions to recruit.
The only reason he wasn’t replaced was because Fergie couldn’t find anyone better. I think he wanted Zanetti once. That was Neville level. I can’t remember any other strong rumours of him being replaced.
I love how you all agree that he would be easily upgraded.
Zanetti was on another level, but Moratta had stiffie for Giggs.
Cafu, Lizarazu, Zanetti were on another level to G Nev. Easiest player to remove from that 99 with Jonhsen.
I wouldn't say Neville performed to a world class level across a season, but the mere fact he performed at the very top and for the amount of time that he did certainly makes him world class, and deserves to be in the mix with some of the greats of the game.
Left back
It doesn't come across as humility. Fair enough if he's saying that he wasn't as talented as Scholes/Keane/Giggs but he actively talks himself down and makes out he wasn't very good. There's a massive difference between the two and it grates when he's prostrating himself before the likes of TAA who've done feck all in comparison.
He was a left back
Could have included Zambrotta, Alves or Thuram.Say what?
Uhhh, he was RB before BayernHe was a left back
He was very consistent, like Irwin. Absolutely invaluable. Model professional. Good on the overlap and obviously had a fantastic relationship with Becks. Positionally solid too and a true red.
I think Fergie always wanted to improve the team. We were linked to Thuram before he went to Juve, but he was a World Cup winner already and I assume he'd have played at centre back here like he did at Juve. I think Fergie wanted loads of Serie A stars, but it was almost impossible to entice them to what was then a weaker league. We were linked to Batistuta too, Salas, Zanetti, but only we only managed to buy Seba.
Wrong again. He played as a LB for Bordeaux too. When will you learn?
Just realised you basically omitted his entire Bayern career
So you not gonna count his 7 or 8 years at Bayern as a lb then?He could play both side, but he played lb for bayern.Just realised you basically omitted his entire Bayern career
Neville can thanks to Brown injuries that he is "legend". Solid player with big mouth and rabbit fanbase. Just like Caragher.
You haven't got a fecking clue what you're talking about. Stream of shite posts.
Oh the good old one, I don't agree with you and that means that I am clueless.
What is even more funny, I never wrote that he was bad player. And personally I have soft place for players who are hard working and punching above their weight. Fletcher, Van Bomel, Gio, Park, Inazghi, ect... Neville is just that.
And for everyone to I forgot to answer, you can write me
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( I doubt he cares about us, but he is still mediocre)
Strajka Mitrovica 1/33
75000 Tuzla, Bosnia and Herzegovina.
( I doubt he cares about us, but he is still mediocre)
Fergie wouldn’t just have kept playing Neville in the team if he wasn’t consistent and offered something. We’ve seen it over the years if a player doesn’t meet the standards required then he moves them out of the club. Neville was never World Class but he was consistent and knew exactly what was required of him in his position.
And as a few others have pointed out, Lizarazu retrained as a counter attacking LB during his early days at Bordeaux. Yes he could play RB but Neville could play at LB as well if needed but it was never their preferred position.
There's nothing to disagree over. Neville was a quality right back and that's got nothing to do with Wes Brown.
Well you just said he owes his career to Brown's injuries which doesn't make sense as you're implying that if Brown wasn't injury prone he would've played over Neville at right back? Wes Brown was a centre back that could fill in at right back. Fergie was never starting him ahead of Neville at right back.
Madness, Neville was absolutely a world class RB and during his playing time very few players even came close until he started to wind down.
Not only did he manage to bomb up and down the right side for the entire game putting in a strong showing in both attack and defence, his passing and especially his crossing was elite, and his mentality was unquestionable. It says a lot that we've never managed to properly replace him since he retired.
I can only think memories of his time are jaded by his punditry, or the people saying this didnt actually watch him every week when he was in the team.
Not only did he manage to bomb up and down the right side for the entire game putting in a strong showing in both attack and defence, his passing and especially his crossing was elite, and his mentality was unquestionable. It says a lot that we've never managed to properly replace him since he retired.
I can only think memories of his time are jaded by his punditry, or the people saying this didnt actually watch him every week when he was in the team.
Very good player but never world class.
Irwin was a right footed lb and was WC. The fact he played lb to accommodate Neville showed how much Fergie thought of him. Most of Neville career he was mr 7/10 so very dependable and probably just under WC.
Hopping mad, the lot of them.
Maybe he genuinely doesn’t believe he was that good, I know some people like that who find it hard to evaluate themselves with a balanced view. If not then I can see how someone constantly being self deprecating can be grating to some. From the bits I’ve seen he was more about the comparison with United greats.
As for the Arnold comparison, G Neville was at a high level for so long and Trent still has to prove it in regards to consistency for me.
I cant get on board with that, he absolutely was as far as I'm concerned. I mean, in his career he was easily in the conversation for top 5 RB in Europe, and possibly even across the world, and he played for near 20 years. The fact that people in the last few pages are arguing about whether he was better than Cafu or Zanetti shows the company he is in. If you were to do an all time Premier League XI then up until very recently he would have been the obvious pick, and only in recent years would you see Walker or at a push someone like Zabaleta or Ivanovich get a mention.
People here comparing Neville with Zanetti! Zanetti was fecking class - elite level. Neville was good, very good, but certainly not a world beater.
To borrow words from Ferguson, "Gary was one of the best English fullbacks of his generation." Zanetti was one of the best fullbacks of his generation. There is that difference.
To borrow words from Ferguson, "Gary was one of the best English fullbacks of his generation." Zanetti was one of the best fullbacks of his generation. There is that difference.
100% this.
On a side note, I was at OT for the 2nd CL leg against Roma in 2008. Neville was just returning after a lengthy injury spell and towards the end of the match Ferguson put him on in CM
Got a terrific reception from the fans!Sometimes, the reason one is called ‘clueless’ is when one speaks without having a clue.
For anyone following Gary Neville’s long carreer as RB and Wes Brown’s later overlapping career as a CB and later decent stint as a RB because he couldn’t nail the CB position down after injuries reduced him and Rio came, it is no wonder why Brown only became a regular at RB after Neville stepped down in hos thirties.
Anyone watching Utd sober at the time could tell you this, no need to be prickly about being corrected for speaking without a clue.
Ahh of course that average/crap right back Gary Neville. I mean he was worse than Zanetti and fecking Cafu. What an absolute bum. Not like those two are in the top five best right backs of all time or anything.
Yes. Wes was a CB. The amount of drivel we've read on this page....Gary owing his career to Wes Brown indeed.
The best. Certainly where right backs are concerned. Of his generation, there's only Ashley Cole who was arguably above him as an English fullback. I'm classing someone like Stuart Pearce as part of the previous generation.
I really liked Gary Neville the footballer. He wore his heart on his shirt. Loves united. As a pundit I find him amusing..
He definitely wanted Lilian Thuram remember we were chasing him all summer think it was around 2002. Was gutted he went Juventus from Parma There were plenty of better Right backs in Europe as much as I liked Neville I always felt if we signed a better right back and Batigol in the 90s/00s we would of had 5 champions leagues by now
What? An extra 2 champions leagues due to upgrading a right back
and bringing in an unproven in the Premier League striker come on now. We never lacked goals.What? An extra 2 champions leagues due to upgrading a right back
Could add Shearer if you want premier league proven, 97 sticks out for me. I agree we scored goals but sometimes in Europe a world class striker could of been the difference. Regarding Neville he made a lot of mistakes people forget that. He was solid, but when his head went he was awful. The club world cup being an example.
To be fair, he was out injured for that CL semi final vs Leverkusen, so you could definitely make a strong case for at least 1 extra CL.What? An extra 2 champions leagues due to upgrading a right back
That’s fair enough when we’ve signed players that was good and then they joined and went worse. We’ve also made players become superstars such as Ronaldo. Hojlund didn’t come to us as a world class player. He’s still a player with a lot of potential and should get better. He’s had an alright season under the circumstances.
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