Gray was (and still is ) brilliant.
Still on BeIN , but with the horrific Keys.
Gary Neville - Pundit
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Gray was (and still is ) brilliant.
Still on BeIN , but with the horrific Keys.
Yea, I watch BeIN now and then (for our non televised games), but he's pundit only over there. Doesn't really do commentating.
New Overlap is excellent. Really glad that other pro’s have sat him down and forced him to confront just how great he was.
Highly recommend.
Highly recommend.
Utd podcast with Red Nev.
You'd have to either be an idiot, a rival fan or too young to have seen him play to give him shit. A top player for us who really bleeds Utd. And I will say he's even a top pundit.
People give him shit because not all his predictions or opinions turn out to be correct but there isn't a single person in the world who gets everything right. His analysis is usually spot on and he picks up on things others don't.
Yet somehow people who probably never kicked a ball in their life make fun of him if he's gets something wrong or says things the armchair experts don't agree with.
Would walk into our current team, excellent defender and crosser of the ball. Very humble about his playing career, not everyone needs to be up his own arse about how good he was.
If only Wan Bissaka could whip a cross in as quick as that.
He stretches humility to a nauseating degree so much so that one with no recollection of his playing days would get the impression of him being a below par journeyman if they had only gary himself to go off of.
I don't know why he leans into this "he was a mediocre player in a great team" nonsense especially when he's achieved more than 99% of the people he's hosting.
Keane defends him a lot on the overlap, you can tell it annoys him.
Also, can anyone name other mediocre player that was in the starting XI for 10+ seasons during our most successful period. Ferguson would have gotten rid of him if he was so average.
Just because he couldn’t ping it like Trent or run like Walker doesn’t mean he was average.
I gotta say he increasingly comes off as a really strange dude.
Probably Englands best post 66 right back
Maybe he likes it when people step in and talk him up.
I doubt you'd find many teams that wouldn't want a prime Gary Neville on their rb.
I actually prefer a humble player generally but I can see why Nev may see himself how he does. In comparison to his teammates he didn’t really have any physical or technical attributes that marked him out like his peers. However he had probably one of the best mindsets. This I think lead to his improvement as a player who we saw at his peak.
A lot of the young generation who didn't see him play on a week to week basis don't realise how good he was. Maybe it's because he jokes around a lot and never boasts about his career like people like Lineker and Shearer.
When I was growing up, they're use to be a player who had his own football show and was always joking around on it. I use to think did this guy actually play the game. As I got older, I started doing my research and found that player was the greatest of them all. His name was Jimmy Greaves!
I don't think it has all that much to do with him being humble.
In terms of the rest, he was an extremely consistent fullback that would run the length of the pitch, overlap, bring others into play, be available for passes and comfortable to receive it in tight situations without panicking, comfortable at defending as well. Obviously not in the extreme end of any stats, but just overall solid.
Essentially most of what you'd want from a modern fullback.
Just curious as to why you don’t think it’s humble in this case? To be fair I’ve not seen the clip referenced by others I just prefer humble over egotistical. Not saying there isn’t a need for both characters in a team.
Also I’m not saying I don’t rate Neville as a player for those reasons you stated and also his crossing ability and he could also cover in the centre needed. Was a international for how many years? I was more questioning people having a go at his rationale. Comparing himself directly talent wise to Scholes and Giggs it’s understandable and I’m sure I’ve heard him allude to it similarly too.
He was a great striker
I watched the full match vs Tottenham when we won the league in 99. He was brilliant, didn't put a food wrong. He was very good going forward had an excellent cross.
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I think he's great.I must be the only GNev fan.....and I don't really care
If you read his book that's pretty much of how he thinks of himself. He reckons he put his head down and worked and worked and worked to get where he did. Focus, determination, a certain level of skill and of course luck to have been at United during the glory years.
But that's not the entire picture , he might have thought of himself as less than stellar skill wise but in the end he was one of the best left backs* in the world for a very long period of time, compare this to his interactions with carragher whom you would get the impression was the world class player that garry was even though he had a pretty fiddling career by his standards.
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Well he cant exactly 'big' himself up, otherwise folks would start hating him for being a bighead and picking up on his every mistake. Charlton used to say the same when discussing the Busby Babes.
He wasnt bad at right back either.
Trent is "world class" at what he does apparently.
Didn't GNev used to rip him to bits every week?
Didn't GNev used to rip him to bits every week?
Neville just pointed out how Slovenia only have a population of 2 million...cheeky dig at Souness?
Don't know but he's been insufferable for ages as he seems to have the most enormous boner for him. I think it's part of his mission to make Liverpool fans not think he's biased/hates them
Fergie always wanted to improve our RB. G Nev was good but nothing special.
Being wrong is an absolute. But if there were levels of wrong, you'd be hitting some quite outrageous levels.
Walker is the only right back in the premier league I'd consider to be up there with Neville.
Neville was an attacking full back before it was the norm and he can defend.
TAA is definitely good going forward but he neglects defending and quite often doesn't even try to get back into position.
If Neville didn't need to worry about getting up and down and just committed to attack he'd have far bigger numbers in his stats column(unfortunately it seems stats now determines how good a player is rather than the eye test, unless there's some sort of agenda)
I still wouldn't swap a prime Neville for any RB in Premier league history even if he's annoying to listen to as a pundit
What???
You what..?
Not every UTD player needs to be WC or shit. There is middle ground between that. Was he good player? Yes. Could we upgrade on him. Also yes.
Fergie was chasing Zanetti for years.
So there was only Zanetti who was a better RB than G Nev in his generation? That’s pretty world class to me!
Zanetti was the best of his generation, the best of many generations. Of course we'd be interested. Fergie also sniffed around Batistuta and Ronaldo. That doesn't mean he was dissatisfied with his striking options.
Gary Neville was definitely one of the best right backs of his era. If Fergie didn't rate him he wouldn't have kept hold of him all those years and even after the Hawthorns horror show.
Very much agree with the point. Although I rated Cafu more highly too.
My bad
Was he though? Or was it one of the 1000s of media stories that United always had.
He's a 'moments' pundit. He's always looking for a line, a comment, a take. That's part of his job, of course. But at times it is like he's like one of those radio presenters trying to say something that will go viral on social media. I think he's a decent pundit, but he can be exhausting because I think he's too aware now of what he says and the impact of it.
He's more an verbal columnist than a pundit. Every time he's on screen it's like he's trying to force himself to be interesting or controversial and at first that was refreshing, now it's a bit much
He's more an verbal columnist than a pundit. Every time he's on screen it's like he's trying to force himself to be interesting or controversial and at first that was refreshing, now it's a bit much