Oh man I didn't even read the whole thing. A classic to finish. Chef's kiss.
Gary Lineker set to leave MOTD
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Oh man I didn't even read the whole thing. A classic to finish. Chef's kiss.
How can I hate women? My cat is one.
You are saying that you don't want women to be presenting football. That's bigoted. You're excluding an entire gender.
I can't be bigoted pal I've got a mum.
Goldbridge gets my vote.
How can I be sexist? My mother is a woman.
Hopefully, they will hire somebody who pisses off the type of person who I get pissed off by.
Wish they went for someone like her:
(Sorry if someone else or I recommended her before).
(Sorry if someone else or I recommended her before).
StuntPegg is great. She has been getting more traction and been involved in some Sky stuff on their YouTube channels.
Not sure she could host but she's always got some great insights analysis-wise.
She’s everywhere at the minute and I can’t stand her. She once asked Usyk why his fight with Fury won’t be taking place in Ukraine, weeks after Russia invaded. An absolute tool.
Yeah been watching her for about 2 years now and she's progressing great and just naturally entertaining. Lineker is great because he's witty and generally interesting, think his replacement will do better if he/she fills those parameters rather than equallying his caps/goals etc.
I don't dislike women, I actually have three of my own at home.
I’ve never seen her before, but she’s incredibly irritating. It’s almost like a parody of documentary
That is quite literally the dictionary definition of bigoted. You judge someone simply based on an external unrelated factor such as race or sex. Competence and ability be damned.
We have now built them a nice kitchen to get back into so we men can get on with adult business
I'm sure that women working in sports commentating are now very grateful that some bloke from the internet has defined what is and isn't suitable for them to commentate on, so they don't have to worry their pretty little heads about it.
Right out of the "I have a black friend so I can't be a racist" playbook. A ridiculous "argument".
And let's not forget that all opinions are not equal. Some are well thought out and reasoned and others are yours.
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What's irritating about her?
It is a kind of parody on the way people typically talk about football but she has a deadpan delivery and great wit. Possibly not everyone's cup of tea but no one will be.
First I've seen her do stuff like that tbh. She's usually doing bits on Sky like this:
I just listened to that clip and she seemed fine. Better than most of the idiot former footballers we often have to listen to.
Of course she is a woman so I'd prefer she was talking about flower arranging.
She does have that that kind of Philomena Cunk-esque delivery which isn't for everyone which I get.
She is great and seems very knowledgable and articulate.
I mean it kind of shows the absolute reverse of Jock's 'argument' in that one clip.
A woman demonstrates extremely detailed knowledge of a player and explains why she's chosen her pick, and then a man goes... yeah yeah great knowledge there but... Mbappe.
Not a fan of her deadpan, slightly condescending delivery. Gives me ‘Brass Eye’ vibes and I’m not sure if she is being serious or slightly satirical.
The editing is also very clunky, just as an aside which doesn’t help the overall feel of her film. It’s very amateur and I don’t know how that translates to a slick long running production like MoTD. (Bearing in mind this is the first time I’ve heard of her, and I’m judging entirely on the linked video which renders my opinion largely irrelevant
)Not a fan of her deadpan, slightly condescending delivery. Gives me ‘Brass Eye’ vibes and I’m not sure if she is being serious or slightly satirical.
The editing is also very clunky, just as an aside which doesn’t help the overall feel of her film. It’s very amateur and I don’t know how that translates to a slick long running production like MoTD. (Bearing in mind this is the first time I’ve heard of her, and I’m judging entirely on the linked video which renders my opinion largely irrelevant
That's fair enough but I think you have to remember it's YouTube. She probably edits, creates, scripts and researches everything by herself.
Yeah, she speaks much better on the clip from Sky. Almost embarrassed for the guys (don’t know who they are either) that she makes such a well reasoned and knowledgeable arguement for Bastoni and they are just like ‘yeah luv, but no - Mbappe’.
Stuntpegg is good but she would be wasted as a main presenter. Don't think she could go into analysis as she currently does.
“Yeah but Mbappe is Mbappe at the end of the day.”
What an utterly embarrassing retort to what was very good analysis on why she picked Bastoni. Mbappe may be good but this season he has been underwhelming with Bellingham having to pick up some serious slack, resulting in his own performances appearing poor.
I hate these fan boys who can never be objective about a player and just pick their FIFA favourites. Who even are those fellas? All clueless and were completely upstaged by that woman (no idea who she is either).
Anyone of Chapman, Scott or Logan will be fine IMO. Part of me wants to Scott to get it because of how much it's already triggering the gammon Joey Barton types
I think this is a good point. At the very least it would require a real departure from the current format of the show. She might be more suited to something like Football Focus or MoTDx
Not sure if I'd agree with irritating, but there are definitely shades of Philomena Cunk.
Yeah I was getting that too, but I’ve never watched that either - only seen clips so I wasn’t sure enough to say.
Maybe irritating wasn’t the right word, there was just something a bit ‘off’ about that Norwich video. I love a bit of satire but I’m not sure I want it in my football analysis.
Stunttpegg has been great for years.
Her humor is dry and satirical. I think it's hilarious, but would certainly be a change for mainstream TV. But it's needed, you're going to fail miserable by trying to replace Lineker as a like for like. It's an impossible job, so i'd retire MOTD in its current format and bring it back more akin to these popular informal podcast or fan led debates.
I think a less informal presenter is required, that's the way media is now being consumed. Look at success of Lineker's podcast, Micah/Abdo/Henry CBS coverage, the Neville/Wrighty/Keane podcast, and possibly the best football media currently available in Athletic FC vodcast Joe Devine/JJ Bull/Jon Mackenzie.
I'd honestly be looking at replacing Lineker with a few faces and a keep in a few pro's for the insight - the discussion and questions would be much better.
You’ll never have some obscure YouTuber fronting one of the biggest shows on prime time BBC.
It’ll be a ‘safe pair of hands’ appointment like Chapman or gabby Logan.
It’ll be a ‘safe pair of hands’ appointment like Chapman or gabby Logan.
I did wonder when I replied to the ‘she’d be wasted’ comment above if maybe it could shift to a top gear style programme. The presenters and pundits sat amongst a studio audience, make it more conversational and involve the fans rather than old men sat around going ‘we think this and we’re the experts’. Maybe given the time it goes out because of the embargoes on highlights it could be a bit more adult although I’m not sure what form that would take. Something akin to a late night Soccer AM. Football is entertainment these days so make it entertaining.
Then for those who don’t care for the punditry analysis and chat the Sunday morning ‘repeat’ could be paired down to only show the highlights of each game. Give folk to option.
I agree it’ll be a safe pair of hands, an obvious and very bbc move, but I don’t agree with your first assertion. YouTube is just another platform and if somebody shows talent the bbc is exactly the kind of organisation who will snap them up.
Don't understand why it matters if it would be a man or woman as lead presenter for MOTD. I don't watch it, but people have saying Mark Chapman could get it. I've heard him a fair bit on the radio and he's just a professional broadcaster isn't he? No background as a player etc. so you don't need that to do that kind of job.
I understand to a degree when it comes to punditry, or at least that there's a logical argument. That's different. Female pundits haven't played at the level that they're asked to talk about. Not their fault, but they are presumably hired for their expertise rather just being general broadcasters. Ex-League One /League Two players are not asked to give their expert opinions and it's because they haven't played at that level either. Lower league ex-pros have arguably played closer to PL level, and may have played with or against some of the current PL players or clubs at a point in their career. Cup ties, youth teams, or there's plenty of current PL players who had loan spells lower down.
Anyway, for MOTD lead presenter who cares? You don't need to have played the game at all to do that, or alternatively you could be a high profile ex-player, male or female. Doesn't need playing credentials at all.
I understand to a degree when it comes to punditry, or at least that there's a logical argument. That's different. Female pundits haven't played at the level that they're asked to talk about. Not their fault, but they are presumably hired for their expertise rather just being general broadcasters. Ex-League One /League Two players are not asked to give their expert opinions and it's because they haven't played at that level either. Lower league ex-pros have arguably played closer to PL level, and may have played with or against some of the current PL players or clubs at a point in their career. Cup ties, youth teams, or there's plenty of current PL players who had loan spells lower down.
Anyway, for MOTD lead presenter who cares? You don't need to have played the game at all to do that, or alternatively you could be a high profile ex-player, male or female. Doesn't need playing credentials at all.
It doesn’t. You watch for the highlights, not the presenter.
Logan
Chapman
Cates
Scott
In that order of preference for me. Maybe also Dion Dublin as well, just because I think he is a bit of a legend, and also decent on the tv.
Chapman
Cates
Scott
In that order of preference for me. Maybe also Dion Dublin as well, just because I think he is a bit of a legend, and also decent on the tv.