I think that he can still evolve. He is not good with the right, but usually the left foot player are terrible with the right, a good example could be James.Good crosses and unique physical conditions, is one of the fastest players in the world. With his age he still has five years at the highest level. He is great with free kicks and in his "bad" seasons in Madrid had very good numbers both with goals and assists.Besides he uses to be determinant in the big games, winner in la copa del rey and second goal (I think that Ramos scored the winner) in C.L final.
Gareth Bale
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Pedro isn't anywhere near as physically strong and powerful as Bale, or as fast. Bale can do things that other players can't, and he's still young.
How often have you watched Bale play? Because I'm struggling to grasp why you're coming out with this bollocks.
16 times. Spurs won 0 games in that span.
I agree with your assessment, but it implies he's a 'good' player and not in that absolute top tier alongside Neymar, Lewa, Robben, Ibra etc(and, of course he's far from Ronaldo and Messi). Didn't realize he's 26 though, thought he was around 28-29..
@LilRicky You're going to ridiculous lengths to make excuses for Bale now.
Tell me which other teams in in Europe "convinced" you in attack?
They were clearly one of Europes best teams, as usual, going forward. And bale struggled in that team and looked worse than most of his team mates. You can try and spin it anyway you want but it's just what happened. His team mates in attack all had very good seasons. I think they were great going forward, you think they were "little worse" than the previous season. Which doesn't really mean anything when even your opinion still leaves them being a terrific attacking team.
So yeah, it wasn't a team that had many underpefoming players and "we can't single out bale". Bale was singled out because the team had many performers and he, the expensive player on the planet, wasn't one of them.
Tell me which other teams in in Europe "convinced" you in attack?
They were clearly one of Europes best teams, as usual, going forward. And bale struggled in that team and looked worse than most of his team mates. You can try and spin it anyway you want but it's just what happened. His team mates in attack all had very good seasons. I think they were great going forward, you think they were "little worse" than the previous season. Which doesn't really mean anything when even your opinion still leaves them being a terrific attacking team.
So yeah, it wasn't a team that had many underpefoming players and "we can't single out bale". Bale was singled out because the team had many performers and he, the expensive player on the planet, wasn't one of them.
As I said, by Madrid's standards they were poorer than previous seasons.
A lot of results I've given there last night highlight numerous games were they under performed. Yes they are of course still one of Europes best attacking teams, one of Europes better teams no doubt. But again, things weren't great. Again to give you the example of Di Maria, didn't he under perform in an under performing United side last season?
Looking at Whoscored.com again I know it's only stats but Bale was Madrid's 3rd highest Rated player with 7.66 rating for the overall season. Only Ronaldo and James bettered him! http://www.whoscored.com/Teams/52
Bale was their 3rd highest top scorer with 13 goals and 4th in assists. Again he was in the mix for both goals and assists and heck his performances were rated highly enough also. His performances dropped off but still he delivered. Your buying into the fans negative reaction of him far too much.
Oh and the obvious answer to your question if not Real then who, is Barcelona. Other great attacking teams from last season, Munich of course, Wolfsburg and Arsenal.
Bingo. They were the second or at worst third best attacking side last season. So much for that being an excuse.
And no he didn't deliver. He under performed. And their fans are in a much better position than you to judge. They do overreact but they arent morons to go so much against he guy if he was their third best performer. Who scored?
did you think he was better than Modric and Isco last season? I'll save you some time - he wasn't.It seems it's hard to accept that Bale had a disappointing season in 14-15. It doesn't mean he's crap like it doesn't mean Di Maria is crap.
Like I said, I'd be very happy if he was in our squad. I just won't turn a blind eye when he disappoints.
Btw, Madrid finished with 5 more points and 14 more goals in 2014-15 than 2013-14.
They had a better season in La Liga and came closer to winning the title.
They had a better season in La Liga and came closer to winning the title.
Bingo. They were the second or at worst third best attacking side last season. So much for that being an excuse.
And no he didn't deliver. He under performed. And their fans are in a much better position than you to judge. They do overreact but they arent morons to go so much against he guy if he was their third best performer. Who scored?
It seems it's hard to accept that Bale had a disappointing season in 14-15. It doesn't mean he's crap like it doesn't mean Di Maria is crap.
Like I said, I'd be very happy if he was in our squad. I just won't turn a blind eye when he disappoints.
An article from The Telegraph about one of the many poor displays from Madrid, this is exactly what I am on about.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...-wont-talk-again-until-end-of-the-season.html
I'm sure I could dig out plenty more articles similar to this through out the season, Honestly... Do you really need me to? Madrid put in plenty of poor performances last season.
A player who scores 13 times and has 9 assists to his name in 30 games is not a poor season by any means. He's a wide attacking player and he delivered, End of! His returns are as good as Muller (which I showed last night) and also better than Di Maria. Must I also provide returns for a multiple wide attacking players through out Europe. If any wide attacking player of United's scores 13 times for us this season and has 9 assists to their name you would I'm sure you would consider it a great season from the player.
The problem you and others seem to have with Bale is his price tag, you think cause of it he should be delivering goals and assists to equal Messi & Ronaldo. Reality is no other player will equal them as they are on a completely different level all together.
So you get a bunch of other players that are genuinely world class talents and they just so happen to play in an era where we've been blessed with two incredible talents as Messi & Ronaldo and fans have unreal expectations of them.
Yes and why was that? Athletico Madrid dropping away considerably. 12 point difference in their 2013/14 season to last season. Hardly surprising they finished better of points wise. They still managed to lose 6 games last season to the 5 the previous season as well.
Ah, he was great, end of!
He will deliver when he's accepted by the real fans as a top player. So far he hasn't done it and has disappointed. No player who delivers has his own fans constantly on his back. And only using that as a reference point. I watched him a lot and a lot of times he looked out of place in a quality team. Which doesn't mean he isn't a quality player but he was a notch below his team mates plenty of times. He has a great platform to set it right this season.
No one expects him to be Ronaldo or Messi. He's not got the natural ability to even come anywhere close. The guys he is competing with are the likes of hazard, who was far far better than him last season. So yeah, sounds like a disappointing season indeed.
The match report is hilarious. Go check out one from around December for Barcelona. I hope you decide they sucked balls last season right after. It's the kind of logic you're going for it seems.
He will deliver when he's accepted by the real fans as a top player. So far he hasn't done it and has disappointed. No player who delivers has his own fans constantly on his back. And only using that as a reference point. I watched him a lot and a lot of times he looked out of place in a quality team. Which doesn't mean he isn't a quality player but he was a notch below his team mates plenty of times. He has a great platform to set it right this season.
No one expects him to be Ronaldo or Messi. He's not got the natural ability to even come anywhere close. The guys he is competing with are the likes of hazard, who was far far better than him last season. So yeah, sounds like a disappointing season indeed.
The match report is hilarious. Go check out one from around December for Barcelona. I hope you decide they sucked balls last season right after. It's the kind of logic you're going for it seems.
Oh dear. LilRicky must be Welsh.
Irish actually
But I can see why you would say that
But I can see why you would say that
I will bet more in Hazzard and then Suarez if people forget his dog moments he will be in the top 3 in the near future, but the 3 best players would be Neymar, Suarez and Hazzard.
Saying he's only as good as Pedro is equally, if not more ludicrous. And I say this as someone who rates Pedro quite highly.
tell that to the guys in Pedro's thread.
Ronaldo scored against, Barcelona, Valencia, Sevilha and ATM, besides 9 or 10 goals in the CL and don't forget he won the golden shoe when he was playing for United so he can score in both leagues. I think RM is doomed this year, Rafa as a coach, Bale as the main star........Not really Amol, to be fair Madrid were out of sorts for much of last season. They were winning as they should be but they certainly weren't winning in style as they were the previous season on many occasions. Ronaldo basically went through the motions and done what he has done every season, score a feck tonne of goals against mainly pish poor Spanish teams that are probably on the same level as League 1 or Championship sides. There wasn't many stand out Madrid performances last season was there? Was there many stand out Ronaldo performances either? Don't mention the game against Granada as it backs up the League 1 comment!
Of course his performances dropped off from the previous 3 or 4 seasons that he put in but I'm not surprised considering the personal stuff he was going through. Sure look no further than Di Maria, he had personal issues this season and his form in the second part of the season dropped off. He wasn't the player he could be, we all know that.
I think he's rated much higher than he deserves to be due to his price tag. I will revisit this thread after I watch him a few times next season. (Hate watching Real so I don't catch him that often)
And they all came when Bale was not playing.
After this pile of nonsense, all that's left for you is to admit you haven't watched any of our games last season.
Key word I used was "mainly".
Yeah he had his goals against the top teams too, the 4 teams you listed he scored 7 goals against them last season. He scored 5 alone in one match against Granada.
How exactly is that nonsense?
I didn't watch them on a weekly basis, I'd say I watched at least 20-25 games of Madrids last season, not exactly a casual viewer.
Im welsh and still think he is an overrated jug eared chancer.
I'm Welsh and an overrated chancer and still think he's a jug.
My problem with your post is that you were using his stats to prove he was good and you are doing it from a perspective of EPL club. Chelsea scored 73 league goals last season, Madrid scored 118. Chelsea had +41 goal difference, Madrid had +80. I really don't think Madrid and Barca stats are comparable with those of EPL clubs.
Anyway, people will say that we played great until Modric got injured, but in reality performances got progressively worse from the moment Bale came back, which was before Modric injury. Isco was moved to the bench and we went from 4-4-2 to 4-3-3.
Bale never looked good last season. Never involved enough, usually isolated on that right side, didn't see much of the ball and he looked lost out there quite often. He was low on confidence and really nothing went his way.
After a good first season everyone was expecting another step in the right direction. Instead, the player regressed and Ancelotti paid the price.
Hopefully next season will be better for him..
He's been world class forever now, how's that even in doubt.
It's very strongly in doubt because he's only ever had one season that even his biggest fans can class as world class, and that was over 2 years ago. At his best and when he plays for Wales, sure, but definitely not for his club team.
I'm a jug and still think he's an overchanced ear.
Good to hear a Madrid fans view. It was obvious all season IMO. Looked a step behind and below his team mates. He's got a good shot of setting it right this season.
It boggles my mind how people complain about the supposed Thomas Muller bid for £70.5M // €100M, yet have no qualms about paying £120M // €170MM for Bale.
Muller is twice the player Bale will ever be.
Muller is twice the player Bale will ever be.
Ditto
It doesnt really matter who prefers who. Whoever we target for RW will be predominantly use their left foot. Few are better than Bale.
10-11,12-13, and 13/14 were all world class seasons by him.
And whoever we target won't be Bale because he isn't available.
Depends on what you mean by world class. Is it a season like hazard had last year? In that case bale has had one. If it's a good season then he's had three. In 10-11 he was around nani's level if I remember correctly. Maybe Nani was better.
2010/11 he had 2 great performances in the CL against Maicon, and and overall pretty good season but by no means world class (think he had like 2 assists and 6 or 7 goals in the league?). 13/14 was also by no means world class. It was a good year, and he had a very good goalscoring record, but he wasn't as good as he was in that year at Spurs for sure.
I'm somewhat of a Bale fan, but 10-11 certainly wasn't a world class season. He had a handful of brilliant matches that got a lot of attention, but overall his season was somewhat over-rated. Nani was definitely better, as amokbhatia mentioned above.
don't really agree with that. It's like you've forgotten how Bale absolutely destroyed the league the last time he played here, and is single handedly dragging sh!Thouse Wales to their best ever ranking.
Any more of that & I'll invite you to The Ram Inn.
That's right, you tell him Steve
Watching him Vs City and wondering why people are happy to pay 100m POUNDS for this guy...
He's an excellent player in a counter attacking team. The way we setup he'd struggle IMO.
Theres a level of counter-attacking football in the possesion based philosophy/tactics that van gaal uses. The whole team contracts on the defence and spreads out on the attack. Barcelona do the same thing still.
People who say bale is a pure counterattacking player must see that depay is also a player that would suit that play style. Although memphis is better on the ball admittedly; the front 3 are forwards and definitely not wingers and there main purpose is to put balls in to the net coming in from an angle.
People who say bale is a pure counterattacking player must see that depay is also a player that would suit that play style. Although memphis is better on the ball admittedly; the front 3 are forwards and definitely not wingers and there main purpose is to put balls in to the net coming in from an angle.
Bale is the player I would most love to see here, and I'm certain he's at the top of our most wanted list.
If woody could pull this one off, it would be awesome.
He is so at home in the Prem.
If woody could pull this one off, it would be awesome.
He is so at home in the Prem.
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