Was he booed?
Gareth Bale
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I think it's more because everyone gets the feeling that there should be a chance to get him. The prices quoted are absolutely ridiculous and at least 2x his actual value, he plays like shit for Real Madrid and the fans don't like him, so you'd think he wouldn't be too happy. The managers are almost forced to play him, regardless of his shit form, and he just doesn't fit in too well next to Ronaldo. So logically, you'd think that if we put up the money we could get him. Unfortunately, Perez is determined to see his 100m man perform, and doesn't want to admit that he just isn't as good as he thought and admit he made a mistake. It'll happen eventually, people thought this summer maybe, but more likely next summer after he has another year where he's not good enough for Madrid yet keeps playing to the detriment of the team (while British people continue to back him/make stupid excuses for him and mention one season he had 3 years ago and a handful of international games a year as reasons why he is one of the best in the world).
Obviously he would improve us a lot and is far more suited to the premier league, but he is so overrated. I would rather pay the money for Griezmann who is better technically and has been far better these last 2 years while they've both been in Spain, or Reus.
He's saying that Bale plays for a team with far superior offensive production and Griezmann plays for a dull defensive side who creates fewer chances.
DDG + 57 million for Bale ? 
Please Woody - bring him home.
And if we do get him for 80 million or more, people here will be over the moon. The same people who were happy to let Di Maria go for a loss after one poor season because his "value" might drop despite the fact that PSG were desperate for him. Yet Bale having three mediocre seasons at Madrid does not warrant a cut-price deal because Perez loves him.
No he did not. He scored 49 goals for Spurs in his last three seasons there. That is not "loads of goals". It was a respectable tally which even came to that number because of one very good season he had. Even in that season where he was virtually shooting from any and every position, he got 21 league goals which is by no means an extraordinary feat when you see how much freedom he was given.
Sorry, but 21 league goals in anyone's book is a fantastic season. Yeah, over his Spurs' career he didn't score 'loads' of goals but he was virtually unplayable in his last season there.
Considering he played left back for the majority of his time at spurs, that would explain it
Yes but if my memory serves me right he played a left winger for the last three seasons there. In his last season the whole team was build around him and he was given the license to roam and take potshots from anywhere. I just pointed it out as the person I quoted said he was scoring loads for Spurs and thus was better than Griezmann easily, which IMO is not correct.
Anyway, given a choice I would chose the Atl Madrid player mainly because Bale has snubbed us at least twice and I really don't want a player like that when we could have a player equally good and supposedly a huge United fan.
21 league goals is a very good season and I agree but he was not unplayable. He scored a few belters but I don't remember him bullying defenders or leaving FBs for dead regularly. He had a wonderful strike on him and that is what helped him get to that tally.
We spend too much time on the ball for Bale to thrive. I don't see why would that change much if he was to come and play under LVG.
His best football came from counters and generally open play, which is how AVB team played in 2012-2013.
For example, yesterday we had 67% posession and you lot had 66% on Saturday. You had 20 shots, 8 on target, we had 27, 8 on target. Bale won't help against defensive teams and that's majority of the games in the season for both United and Madrid.
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And don't go telling me that 16 big games in a whole season is where it counts, because there's the other 40 games where a player also has to deliver for the team, and those are the ones where you get high possession stats which don't suite his game. Bale is a great play, but he really needs space to both receive the ball and get passed his player.
His best football came from counters and generally open play, which is how AVB team played in 2012-2013.
For example, yesterday we had 67% posession and you lot had 66% on Saturday. You had 20 shots, 8 on target, we had 27, 8 on target. Bale won't help against defensive teams and that's majority of the games in the season for both United and Madrid.
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And don't go telling me that 16 big games in a whole season is where it counts, because there's the other 40 games where a player also has to deliver for the team, and those are the ones where you get high possession stats which don't suite his game. Bale is a great play, but he really needs space to both receive the ball and get passed his player.
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Agree. He would've been mint in a proper Fergie team however.
This has been an obvious realization of mine too. Imo its the tactics and style of play thats our problem, not the personnel. In Mata, Memphis, Hernandez, Rooney, Young etc we should have enough quality there to score goals from open play. Its too slow and over cautious. Van Gaal needs to wise up.
Oh yes. He would literally kill the competition.
If he sharpens up, yes. But considering his current form, I think our goal tally gives a pretty accurate display of our attacking ability.
What is going on with this fella? I haven't watch Real in ages. Do the fans hate him now?
They've been hating him for a good while now.
Pretty much, but it's not his fault. It's down to Perez pressuring managers into playing him. Now we have him playing as CAM. He will fail and people will hate him even more. He is a victim of the circumstances.
I wonder if he will be allowed to run at defenders or be forced to adjust his game like with Di Maria. I think, this might be a big signing just for the sake of a big signing.
Good, surely if they pour on the hatred something will have to give and we can buy him with all the Adidas monies.
But isn't it also his fault if he shouldn't actually be playing?
Depends when, though. They are prioritizing him as a main man of the team. I don't want us to sign him a few years later. He's so reliant on pace and power. If we can get him now (or soon) then brilliant, he'd add a huge deal to us, but Madrid utilizing/wasting his best years and then chucking him our way is something I wouldn't be in favor of.
How does this make Cristiano feel? Surely one of them is going to get upset and we can buy one of them?
Power struggles are probably part of the deal at Madrid. Ronaldo is the main man of course but not a Perez signing whereas Bale is, and is being pushed to the forefront as a result. It leads to him looking a bit out of place technically in amidst the Isco's and Modric's of this world.
At the end of the day, Bale can't really ask for more. He's surrounded by the best, and I don't think he's being shafted at all. He gets enough freedom to bomb on and get into the box. The only thing they can try is Bale on the left and Ronaldo on the right which they should IMO. Maybe Bale could also do with some luck and a run of great games to get the fans and media off his back.
Of course it is, but the problem occurred last season when our form dropped and it was as soon as he came back from the injury and sent Isco to the bench. We went from 4-4-2 to 4-3-3 aka BBC and started playing worse right away, then Modric got injured and everything went to shit.
The reason why the fans were pissed was because everyone knew there was an alternative to BBC but Carlo kept playing it/him, results never came and it only made the fans even more pissed at the whole situation. The guilt was spread between Carlo, Flo and Bale.
Hypothetically, if Bale was dropped for a couple of games, Carlo went back to 4-4-2 with Isco, and we still failed, the blame would be spread around the whole team, but this way, when there is an alternative that was never tried, the blame is all on Carlo, Flo and only one player out of the whole squad. That' why I'm calling him a victim of the circumstances (in a way, not literally).
I remember him ending Maicon's career.
absolutely - Im not convinced he is up there with the worlds very best overall - but speed wise I cant believe people question him
and here is him destroying maicon
its interesting to see how deep maicon stands off him after being destroyed in a few sprints allowing him to come inside easily - something often overlooked about his pace I think - the fact that it makes people stand off him and gives him that bit of extra time and space and makes it easier to play the simple inside ball or to come in off the touchline
Difficult angle with defenders already rushing back to clear it anyway and a very difficult pass to Ronaldo with two defenders inbetween. Harsh boos.
Agreed. There is absolutely no point in having a player like Bale in a LVG team. His creativity will be supressed and he will end up being forced to be cautious which will completely restrict his game. We should just sign more defenders so we can be more cautious instead.
You are talking about that match in the CL IIRC. That was not the same year in which he scored 21 goals. He did not do much after that CL match that year but did bloom really well the following season.
Yeah I was.. But that's not the point I was getting at. The kid has had a long standing upward trajectory.. That same season he scored arguable goal of the season and was hit for injuries he then came back with that great season.
He was very shite yesterday again. They should just sell him to us.
Funny and strange logic, if shite, then we take him
I would take him in a heartbeat tbf
Funny and strange logic, if shite, then we take him
I would take him in a heartbeat tbf
Yeah his poor form is a bit of a worry, but I think he would flourish in the PL again.
So he can be shite for us?
I could see Bale being a massive disappointment in Van Gaal's system. He'll have no space to run into.
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