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Tosic will never be the left winger we need.

If he does come back and make an impact it'll be as a right winger cutting in or in a central position ala Scholesy which again would leave us needing a left winger with a left foot.

He has experience on the left even though he's played his best games on the right. We dont need an amazing left footed left winger any more than Bayern need an amazing right footed right winger. We just need the option so that tactically we can put out a left footed left winger to just get the ball and cross it in easily from the left. Thats it. Nani is easily good enough as first choice.
 
He was a figure of fun a few months back, and now he's the answer to all of our problems.

'Arry reckons his best position is at left back. Which is a shame, as he's not a particularly good defender. Yet, perhaps. Whether or not he'll be a top class winger, only time will tell. But it's too soon to be paying the sort of money for him that Spurs would likely want. You need to have more than a good month or two to get yourself signed by United.
 
He was a figure of fun a few months back, and now he's the answer to all of our problems.

'Arry reckons his best position is at left back. Which is a shame, as he's not a particularly good defender. Yet, perhaps. Whether or not he'll be a top class winger, only time will tell. But it's too soon to be paying the sort of money for him that Spurs would likely want. You need to have more than a good month or two to get yourself signed by United.

Definitively he is not a left back, more likely a winger
 
I still remember the days where we were going... Has Bale ever won a match with Spurs... ????

So now he is potentially world class after two good games Vs Arsenal, Chelsea ( with 10 men )...
It's far more than just "two good games". Despite having played in only 19 games this season so far (incl. 5 sub appearances) I'd guess he's a prime contender for Spurs "player of the season" for many Spurs fans
 
We have to pick our battles this transfer period - I'd rather see us go for a play maker at that price.
 
Evra and Bale would be a great combo on the left. Either of them can essentially play as the winger component or the fullback component of that side - very dangerous.
 
I think he is turning into a cracking player, but since we can't sign players for fun I'd leave him at Spurs for another season to see if he continues to the standards we have been seeing, while we buy for more pressing areas of the team.
 
Berbasex and £15million will do the trick I say :angel:

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Funny that for so long no one rated Bale simply because of the unfortunate record he had whereas in truth he's had massive injury problems

How anyone didn't see the quality he had in the early months of his Spurs career I'll never know, he's just showing it again now in his first run in the team really since those early months

I was gutted we missed out on him first time around and would love it Keegan style if we got him this summer alas I think it's just a case of him playing well at the mo and the fact that we're playing Spurs this weekend :(
 
Berbasex and £15million will do the trick I say :angel:

I dont think they are looking for strikers at the moment. They already have four and five if Keane included. So I m not sure about that deal and as regards to people thinking we can give Carrick + money for him will not work either because they have just signed up Sandro who is a defensive midfielder as well.
 
I dont think they are looking for strikers at the moment. They already have four and five if Keane included. So I m not sure about that deal and as regards to people thinking we can give Carrick + money for him will not work either because they have just signed up Sandro who is a defensive midfielder as well.

I am not sure they would be to much against getting Berbatov back, when they still have Keane. If they could get the Berbatov - Keane partnership back with with their current midfield they are going to be strong. We don't know if they will go to sign Gudjohnsen on a permanent basis and Pav might still leave this summer, we know that they were in talks regarding selling him this January. £15m + Berbatov is a massive offer for Bale though... Berbatov is a extraordinary footballer that made Sir Alex pay £32m for his services and he is a great footballer... I certainly want Berbatov to stay... It is not impossible that £15m is close to enough to bring him over, 15 + Berba is almost a £40m offer...
 
We didnt need Evra, but that turned out okay, I guess...and Fabio isnt exactly guaranteed a spot in the first team in the future like some would have you believe. So i'll say it again.

Sign the cnut.
 
But Manchester United desperately need a left winger, and Bale would not be a bad option.

A winger is the last thing Manchester United need at this point and time. Nani has more than proven his quality this year, and is about to move into the best years of his career. Ditto on the other side with Valencia. Obertan also looks like a future star. Notwithstanding Giggs, Tosic, and Park also being available.
 
A winger is the last thing Manchester United need at this point and time. Nani has more than proven his quality this year, and is about to move into the best years of his career. Ditto on the other side with Valencia. Obertan also looks like a future star. Notwithstanding Giggs, Tosic, and Park also being available.

I disagree. It should be priority one!

Nani has always been on and off, literary since we sign him he has been very unstable. I am not ready to think that he will be good right now. It is not enough with someone that looks good behind them, we need someone that challenges them for the first team spot, idealiy nobody should have a monopoly on their spot.

Tosic is probably done, Obertan is a good prospect but nothing more than that yet. Giggs should rather be considered as a central midfielder, he does not have the drive he had in the past, and has simply been better as a playmaker, we have Scholes, we have Carrick. If the wingers do their job, all of those will do a better job..

I think wingers is where we are weakest rather than strongest.
 
I disagree. It should be priority one!

Nani has always been on and off, literary since we sign him he has been very unstable. I am not ready to think that he will be good right now. It is not enough with someone that looks good behind them, we need someone that challenges them for the first team spot, idealiy nobody should have a monopoly on their spot.

Tosic is probably done, Obertan is a good prospect but nothing more than that yet. Giggs should rather be considered as a central midfielder, he does not have the drive he had in the past, and has simply been better as a playmaker, we have Scholes, we have Carrick. If the wingers do their job, all of those will do a better job..

I think wingers is where we are weakest rather than strongest.

Nani was on and off during the first two years but he has shown a lot of maturity this year, and is basically a completely different player now. SAF said so himself. He's made the LW spot his own and Bale probably couldn't displace him even if he were a United player. Nani also allows added flexibility by being able to cover for Valencia, at which point Obertan can slide in on the left. I expect next year to be a breakthrough year for him.

Its definitely not a priority for us right now. A striker or creative/attacking midfielder, yes - but we have the best pair of wingers in the league, possibly outside it as well.
 
Nani was on and off during the first two years but he has shown a lot of maturity this year, and is basically a completely different player now. SAF said so himself. He's made the LW spot his own and Bale probably couldn't displace him even if he were a United player. Nani also allows added flexibility by being able to cover for Valencia, at which point Obertan can slide in on the left. I expect next year to be a breakthrough year for him.

Its definitely not a priority for us right now. A striker or creative/attacking midfielder, yes - but we have the best pair of wingers in the league, possibly outside it as well.

But can Nani play left back? Look at Evra, the mans physically fecked from flying up and down that wing, because we havent had anybody to replace him with! Whereas, we're more than covered on the right wing, with Valencia, Park..sigh, Hargreaves hopefully, Obertan and Fletch can do a job there too.

I wouldnt call him a priority, but I would gladly sign Gareth Bale, and for all this "well a few months ago he was a laughing stock with the Premier League curse etc etc", I still dont think there were that many people doubting his talent, to be fair. He just had an unbelieveably, insane stroke amount of bad luck of playing at the wrong place at the wrong time.
 
While we don't 'desperately' need a left winger as Georgie stated, we would benefit from having both wings covered by two players respectively.

Our squad is one that fights for honours in every competition, every year. So there is more than enough game time to justify a purchase on the flanks.

Nani is a right winger, whos time and graft on the left since he joined us have turned him into a technically gifted, genuinely dangerous winger capable of playing on either side.

Having this set of options on the wings would be really fecking nice if you ask me...

Right: Nani, Valencia, Obertan
Left: Bale, Nani, Tosic/Obertan

Plus Bale can play left back which is useful if desperately needed. And of course you've also got Park to factor into certain games, but not many.

I'd be made up if we bought Bale this Summer. He's not going to the World Cup so will be fresh for pre season.
 
Nani was on and off during the first two years but he has shown a lot of maturity this year, and is basically a completely different player now. SAF said so himself. He's made the LW spot his own and Bale probably couldn't displace him even if he were a United player. Nani also allows added flexibility by being able to cover for Valencia, at which point Obertan can slide in on the left. I expect next year to be a breakthrough year for him.

Its definitely not a priority for us right now. A striker or creative/attacking midfielder, yes - but we have the best pair of wingers in the league, possibly outside it as well.

Let's not start that up again.
 
But can Nani play left back? Look at Evra, the mans physically fecked from flying up and down that wing, because we havent had anybody to replace him with! Whereas, we're more than covered on the right wing, with Valencia, Park..sigh, Hargreaves hopefully, Obertan and Fletch can do a job there too.

No he can't, but then again i'm sure we wouldn't buy Bale to be a reserve LB who would scarcely see the light of day because he's stuck behind one of the best in the business, who BTW rarely takes a rest.


I wouldnt call him a priority, but I would gladly sign Gareth Bale, and for all this "well a few months ago he was a laughing stock with the Premier League curse etc etc", I still dont think there were that many people doubting his talent, to be fair. He just had an unbelieveably, insane stroke amount of bad luck of playing at the wrong place at the wrong time.

Bale is a very good player and if I'm honest, I wouldn't mind seeing him at United - but not at the cost of disrupting what looks to be a very effective combination on the wings.
 
While we don't 'desperately' need a left winger as Georgie stated, we would benefit from having both wings covered by two players respectively.

Our squad is one that fights for honours in every competition, every year. So there is more than enough game time to justify a purchase on the flanks.

Nani is a right winger, whos time and graft on the left since he joined us have turned him into a technically gifted, genuinely dangerous winger capable of playing on either side.

Having this set of options on the wings would be really fecking nice if you ask me...

Right: Nani, Valencia, Obertan
Left: Bale, Nani, Tosic/Obertan


Plus Bale can play left back which is useful if desperately needed. And of course you've also got Park to factor into certain games, but not many.

I'd be made up if we bought Bale this Summer. He's not going to the World Cup so will be fresh for pre season.

The only flaw in this logic is that it would be waste of Nani's talent to relegate him to being a squad player simply to accommodate a new signing. Nani and Valencia are more than adequate to create a level of pace, technical ability, creativity, and verve on the wings. Obertan's emergence is basically just an insurance policy.
 
The only flaw in this logic is that it would be waste of Nani's talent to relegate him to being a squad player simply to accommodate a new signing. Nani and Valencia are more than adequate to create a level of pace, technical ability, creativity, and verve on the wings. Obertan's emergence is basically just an insurance policy.

Actually, I think Nani is better than Valencia, I wouldn't be thinking of either as squad players. I made a point of saying how there is enough game time to justify a flank signing.

How many players compete for the central roles? Scholes, Fletcher, Anderson, Gibson, Hargreaves, Carrick. Competition for places is good. Increasing squad depth with versatile, talented players is good.

Let's buy Bale please.
 
Actually, I think Nani is better than Valencia, I wouldn't be thinking of either as squad players. I made a point of saying how there is enough game time to justify a flank signing.

How many players compete for the central roles? Scholes, Fletcher, Anderson, Gibson, Hargreaves, Carrick. Competition for places is good. Increasing squad depth with versatile, talented players is good.

Let's buy Bale please.

Competition for places is good, but we've already got plenty of it on the wings. Nani, Valencia, Obertan, Giggs, Park, and possibly Tosic can all play on the wings, and also don't forget about Cleverly. It would be quite wasteful and financially negligent to buy yet another player with all of these players already on the books.
 
Competition for places is good, but we've already got plenty of it on the wings. Nani, Valencia, Obertan, Giggs, Park, and possibly Tosic can all play on the wings, and also don't forget about Cleverly. It would be quite wasteful and financially negligent to buy yet another player with all of these players already on the books.

Raoul, you've just stated that Obertan's emergence is an insurance policy. Giggs is not a winger any more. Park is an odd kind of reverse wing back that doesn't really offer any penetration and is saved for specific games SAF deems appropriate.

Gareth Bale could sew up the left wing for us for the next 10 years. He really could. Those ones don't come along often.
 
Raoul, you've just stated that Obertan's emergence is an insurance policy. Giggs is not a winger any more. Park is an odd kind of reverse wing back that doesn't really offer any penetration and is saved for specific games SAF deems appropriate.

Gareth Bale could sew up the left wing for us for the next 10 years. He really could. Those ones don't come along often.

No doubt he's a good player, but i don't see any rational justification to buy him when we're already covered at the wings, including Obertan.
 
Raoul, you've just stated that Obertan's emergence is an insurance policy. Giggs is not a winger any more. Park is an odd kind of reverse wing back that doesn't really offer any penetration and is saved for specific games SAF deems appropriate.

Gareth Bale could sew up the left wing for us for the next 10 years. He really could. Those ones don't come along often.

I agree with your point and if we were able to simply go and buy at a whim then I'd say go for it, but given the wingers we have and the other areas that need adressing on the budget we'll have, I just can't see buying him this summer as an astute move.
 
so suddenly evryone seems to like Bale.

Have we change the standards of the players we want or we just can get average players? I thought we were Manchester Utd not fecking midtable clubs.
 
so suddenly evryone seems to like Bale.

Have we change the standards of the players we want or we just can get average players? I thought we were Manchester Utd not fecking midtable clubs.

The sign Bale brigade will mysteriously vanish if he has a quiet game against us and conversely ratchet up the call to sign him if he shines. Its the nature of the transfer forum.
 
While we don't 'desperately' need a left winger as Georgie stated, we would benefit from having both wings covered by two players respectively.
It's not a priority, but I agree it would be nice to have that competition between the wingers. Having Valencia, Nani and Bale rotating through the two wing positions would be bloody fantastic. All three bring a lot of threat going forward, but all three also do a hell of a lot of defensive work (when Nani is the weakest in that area you know you're in a good position). It would also potentially set us up on the wings for the next decade when you consider the age of them with Valencia being the oldest at 24.

The question would then be what would become of the likes of Obertan and Tosic?

I'd be happy if we signed him, but ultimately there are more pressing areas to spend money on.
 
I think he'd be a shrewd signing. Loads of talent as we all know. And it just hasn't come off for him at Tottenham, so the price shouldn't be substantial. Can't deny I'd like to see another Welsh lefty come into the fold...
 
Correct me if I am wrong but didn't he decide not to join us (despite Giggsy being his idol) because SAF wanted him as a winger primarily? Also because he would get limited opportunities to play here?

How has that changed? Evra is still going to be here for a while and we have decent cover for Evra too in the form of Fabio and O'Shea.. Also since we have a host of wingers how will he be more of a regular here than at Tottenham?

I am not saying we wont be interested or needed I am asking why would he want to join us now?
 
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