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He'll flop. Moved there too soon. Not worthy of a world record bid. Has to adapt to a different style of football entirely.
How can he truly flop when La Liga is so weakened? So much cannon fodder he will rack up goals.

He won't be worth that level of money though. He's no Cristiano.
 
Must have come close in his last couple of seasons with us - how many free kicks did he score for a start?


7 goals from outside the box in 07/08, 5 of them were free kicks. Can't be arsed looking at the rest but I'd say that's about as good as it gets for his United career. He might've got into double figures for Madrid in 10/11.

What you're saying is what they're best at are different things. But the aim is the same:to score. Two players who are so single minded in their pursuit of goals doesn't bode well for them IMO unless one of them plays as a striker. A striker plus two fellows looking for mainly shooting opportunities is just overkill.

Anyway maybe madrid won't use them as the two have been used of late.

Also apologies for quoting your one post these many times!

I'd say no matter where Ronaldo plays, the other two to come in - Ozil, Isco, Benzema, whoever - will be playing the selfless provider role. Ronaldo will be doing the striker stuff even if that's not the position he's marked down as playing. It may mean that both of them will have to take less potshots from outside the box and there'll definitely be a bit of friction there for the free kick duties but overall I don't think it'll be catastrophic. Definitely unusual though. So much so that you have to think people are worried about Ronaldo leaving in the next year or so.
 
Alastair is completely mental, Bale is not worth £94 million. I'm not sure how people are saying this is what a player of Bale's quality is worth, not when no other club in the world world have paid that much for him, and players around his ability or even touted as potentially better have gone for close to half that price.
Suarez was better than him last season. He scored more and was more creative. Bale is a fine player but incredibly overrated.
 
Alastair is completely mental, Bale is not worth £94 million. I'm not sure how people are saying this is what a player of Bale's quality is worth, not when no other club in the world world have paid that much for him, and players around his ability or even touted as potentially better have gone for close to half that price.

I must say I don't think Bale is worth £94m. Then again I don't think any player, even Messi, is worth £10m.
 
Apparently United's deal for Modric is hugely dependent on Real's Bale transfer going through. Plus this makes one of our competitiors weaker, so I'm all for this to go through.
 
7 goals from outside the box in 07/08, 5 of them were free kicks. Can't be arsed looking at the rest but I'd say that's about as good as it gets for his United career. He might've got into double figures for Madrid in 10/11.



I'd say no matter where Ronaldo plays, the other two to come in - Ozil, Isco, Benzema, whoever - will be playing the selfless provider role. Ronaldo will be doing the striker stuff even if that's not the position he's marked down as playing. It may mean that both of them will have to take less potshots from outside the box and there'll definitely be a bit of friction there for the free kick duties but overall I don't think it'll be catastrophic. Definitely unusual though. So much so that you have to think people are worried about Ronaldo leaving in the next year or so.
Not catastrophic at all. They've got too many quality players for that to be the case. I have my doubts about the balance though. A trio of benzema bale and Ronaldo isn't good enough in terms of creativity. Benzema can be as selfless as he wants but he's not going to be extremely creative. In end he is a striker. Will be interesting to see how madrid make it work ( if they do) and it will be exciting viewing for sure.
 
I must say I don't think Bale is worth £94m. Then again I don't think any player, even Messi, is worth £10m.
Do you come to that conclusions after seeing their commercial worth or keeping that aside?
 
Apparently United's deal for Modric is hugely dependent on Real's Bale transfer going through. Plus this makes one of our competitiors weaker, so I'm all for this to go through.


Alonso's out injured for another three months. The chances of them selling Modric won't be affected by the Bale deal. They'll remain at next to none.
 
Alonso's out injured for another three months. The chances of them selling Modric won't be affected by the Bale deal. They'll remain at next to none.

Agreed, chances are bleak but they have that new kid that they signed for big bucks to succeed Alonso and also they need to get someone off the wage bill if the Bale deal goes through, something has to give. So could be Ozil or Modric.
 
Do you come to that conclusions after seeing their commercial worth or keeping that aside?

At the end of the day it's the public who idolises them, the Companies only buy into what what the public want. But, yes, I think there are far more deserving professions if that's what you are asking me. Still, that doesn't change the bitterness towards Bale on the Caf.
 
Saying he scored 21 goals is true, but misses the bigger picture. You're looking at a guy who carried Spurs all season. Of the 21 goals he scored, about 15 were world class strikes. 8-10 of those were after the 80 minute mark. This is a guy who brings his best when his side is up against it. He's a wonderful talent.


Hate to agree with Alastair but that's a good point.

Bale at this moment guarantees a goal or assist per game. He probably won't get as much freedom at Madrid as he had at Spurs but he'll play with far better team mates and his output will only increase. Madrid are looking to replace Ronaldo, and there's simply not a better replacement than Bale at the moment.
 
Do you come to that conclusions after seeing their commercial worth or keeping that aside?

When it comes down to it, a players value is purely his commercial worth. If you take all the money out of football, and clubs stop being commercial businesses, then no player is worth a penny.

I guess you can separate the money they bring in through merchandise and marketing form that they bring in through success on the pitch, but even then the lines are blurred - do people pay to watch matches to see Ronaldo, or to see a winning team, whihc he contributes to?

At the end of the day, all signings have to pay their way one way or another.
 
Hate to agree with Alastair but that's a good point.

Bale at this moment guarantees a goal or assist per game. He probably won't get as much freedom at Madrid as he had at Spurs but he'll play with far better team mates and his output will only increase. Madrid are looking to replace Ronaldo, and there's simply not a better replacement than Bale at the moment.

What makes you think that?
 
Well Ronaldo doesn't seem to be too keen on signing a contract(going to twitter to deny the rumors that he has signed one). He probably won't go this season but he'll go next season IMO.
 
Hate to agree with Alastair but that's a good point.

Bale at this moment guarantees a goal or assist per game. He probably won't get as much freedom at Madrid as he had at Spurs but he'll play with far better team mates and his output will only increase. Madrid are looking to replace Ronaldo, and there's simply not a better replacement than Bale at the moment.

I guess Madrid selling Di Maria to the Arse would make more sense than Ronaldo to United...
 
I guess Madrid selling Di Maria to the Arse would make more sense than Ronaldo to United...


Nah they won't spend 94m to replace Di Maria, I'm guessing he's just a long term replacement for Ronnie who'll leave next season.
 
Well Ronaldo doesn't seem to be too keen on signing a contract(going to twitter to deny the rumors that he has signed one). He probably won't go this season but he'll go next season IMO.


If Madrid want big money for Ronnie then he'll be sold this season. ;)
 
Alastair is completely mental, Bale is not worth £94 million. I'm not sure how people are saying this is what a player of Bale's quality is worth, not when no other club in the world world have paid that much for him, and players around his ability or even touted as potentially better have gone for close to half that price.

Some of his comments are over the top, but surely those claiming that Bale will flop are even more mental.

He's never worth £94m and I'm sure if we decided to spash that kind of money out for him there would rightly be a lot against it, but Bale is a top class talent whatever way you look at it.
 
Well Ronaldo doesn't seem to be too keen on signing a contract(going to twitter to deny the rumors that he has signed one). He probably won't go this season but he'll go next season IMO.

Maybe, although I'm not sure it's a case of trying to "replace him", obviously they want to keep Ronaldo, but maybe it's similar (albeit on a far bigger scale $$$) to SAF signing RvP, knowing Rooney would probably kick up a fuss again in the future.
 
He's not a natural goalscorer like Ronaldo is.

When Ronnie got his 42, he had a mixture of tap ins, screamers, free-kicks and headers. Bale had a good season for long rangers (which you can't really budget for since they rely so much on luck), but his conversion rate in general isn't brilliant and he won't get the same number of chances for Madrid as he did for Spurs because the whole team won't play through him.

He'll end up being played as an orthodox winger (which he is good at, tbf) and only score around 10-12 goals next season, I reckon.

When Ronaldo got his 42, he wss playing with the likes of Rooney, Scholes, Giggs, Tevez, Nani, and Evra, as well as a solid defence. Bale wasn't afforded that luxury and often felt he had to do it all himself. Despite Ronaldo's goal output I still seem to remember his conversion rate not being great, bound to happen when you take so many shots from distance.

Ronaldo was the better player when he left, but not by as much as people think. He scored 26 goals in his last season with us, only 5 more than Bale scored last season.

If we were selling Ronaldo to Madrid today(at the same age), we'd probably fetch over £100m.
 
When Ronaldo got his 42, he wss playing with the likes of Rooney, Scholes, Giggs, Tevez, Nani, and Evra, as well as a solid defence. Bale wasn't afforded that luxury and often felt he had to do it all himself. Despite Ronaldo's goal output I still seem to remember his conversion rate not being great, bound to happen when you take so many shots from distance.

Ronaldo was the better player when he left, but not by as much as people think. He scored 26 goals in his last season with us, only 5 more than Bale scored last season.

If we were selling Ronaldo to Madrid today(at the same age), we'd probably fetch over £100m.

He'd also had an operation on his ankle that summer, had no pre-season and missed a couple of months. He didn't really seem to get his match fitness back until January.
 
He'd also had an operation on his ankle that summer, had no pre-season and missed a couple of months. He didn't really seem to get his match fitness back until January.

And we regularly played a quite rigid 4-4-2 because of the Berbatov experiment and that doesn't suit Ronaldo at all. When he did really well in a 4-4-2 it was always with extremely mobile, hard working strikers or with the lightning quick Saha. No wonder he came into his own after Van Nistelrooy left.
 
"Everything is worth what its purchaser will pay for it."

Maxim 847 - Publilius Syrus

However, Madrid really shouldn't be paying 94 million for him. It's a marquee signing for the sake of a marquee signing. Is he going to help return that to Madrid over the course of his contract? I'm not sure
 
Worth and cost are two different things.

Bale will be a prime example of that.

Hasn't Perez himself said Bale isn't worth as much as Spurs want?
 
Incidentally, the Madrid press's own ITKs still say that the Madrid offer hasn't changed since July and that as Spurs haven't moved (from an asking price of 160m Euros :lol:) the deal hasn't been done. They think all the new stuff is coming from England, and maybe from Bale's agent.

For example:
http://www.marca.com/blogs/futbolitis/2013/08/22/el-curioso-caso-bale.html

They do however think a deal will be done. Just as soon as Levy returns from holiday, talks to Bale and AVB and accepts one of the Madrid bids - believed to be either the 87m Euros (£75m) cash or the 98m Euros (£85m) alternative.
 
These prices are rather embarrassing really. I mean I know it's sort of silly but I look at all this money being thrown about in football and can't help but feel it could be put to better use. There are plenty of people starving in the world, who lack education, sanitation, or medications. These sorts of money could be put to good use and go a long way to change that but instead oil barons et al. would rather buy a football team and pump billions of their cash into it. That just seems absolutely mental to me.
 
Pretty much that then. Spurs won't be disappointed at all with their replacements.
 
If you want some more evidence that Bale is staying at Spurs:

"Asked if Spurs can reach the Champions League, Bale told Match of the Day magazine: 'Definitely. We all believe we can get into the Champions League otherwise there's not point being here. It's just a matter of going out there and proving everyone we can. We're all looking forward to the season, hopefully we can improve on last season.'

One signing Spurs have already made is Paulinho, a £17million arrival from Corinthians that is exciting his new team-mate. Bale said: 'I saw him in the Confederations Cup and he looked a good strong player. I'm sure he'll be a great addition to the squad. And he'll give us a little bit more.'"

"We" this and "us" that. As I said many weeks ago, Bale has bought into the AVB project.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...y-snub-80m-Madrid-Spurs-Champions-League.html


Never gets old this one :lol:
 
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