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No correlation? Why would Fergie reveal this big secret to someone outside of the club months ahead of time? You don't think it's possible, likely even, that he wanted to plant the thought of succession in Mourinho's mind?

Unless you actually show us these quotes from Mourinho where he claims to have been told of SAFs retirement by the man himself months before everyone else knew it, you are deemed to be talking utter shite.



Which is nothing new.
 
No correlation? Why would Fergie reveal this big secret to someone outside of the club months ahead of time? You don't think it's possible, likely even, that he wanted to plant the thought of succession in Mourinho's mind?

Why do you assume Fergie told Mourinho? What reason do you have for lending these claims any credibility other than it suiting your agenda in this thread.

Fergie is on record as saying he took the decision and that he kept it from close family. He's also on ford as saying Moyes was his choice. Sir Bobby also said he didn't like Mourinho.

Despite all of this, yes, Mourinho turned us down.
 
Well, for a start Mourinho says he was told - by the man himself - of Fergie's retirement months before it happened. Is he lying? If so, why hasn't Fergie come out and denied it?


You expect Sir Alex pst retirement to come out and deny stuff to the media everytime someone lies about something?
 
So why hasn't Fergie denied it and taken umbrage at Mourinho's comments (comments that are a matter of public record)?

Ferguson, also on record, has given a contrary version of events.

Maybe, now he's retired, Fergie doesn't give a feck about point scoring and correcting Mourinho's inaccuracies?
 
Unless you actually show us these quotes from Mourinho where he claims to have been told of SAFs retirement by the man himself months before everyone else knew it, you are deemed to be talking utter shite.



Which is nothing new.


Mourinho did say he knew months ago. He didnt directly say that Sir Alex told him though. He said am his friend, so I knew. Just as Sir alex knew about him wanting to only go to chelsea as he was his friend.
 
Whatever, Spurs chose to offer the Spurs job to him and not Moyes. And it's probably time you changed your user-name to Moyes' Man .... after all, Gollum did have a rather prominent spine as I recall from the films.

My name choice was as a result of marriage, sorry to disappoint. However, I would happily be called Moyes' Man as I thoroughly rate the guy.

In fact, I wouldn't care less if my name was changed to Moyes' Bum Chum, at least I wouldn't get quoted in the Daily Star. :)
 
Case closed. He must definitely be telling the truth.

Well, there's no evidence that he's lying. On the contrary, why would he say something that he knew Fergie might publicly deny if were not true? It's not credible that he would do that.
 
My name choice was as a result of marriage, sorry to disappoint. However, I would happily be called Moyes' Man as I thoroughly rate the guy.

In fact, I wouldn't care less if my name was changed to Moyes' Bum Chum, at least I wouldn't get quoted in the Daily Star. :)

Though your likelihood of being quoted in the Sun would multiply.
 
Well, there's no evidence that he's lying. On the contrary, why would he say something that he knew Fergie might publicly deny if were not true? It's not credible that he would do that.


According to Earthquake's post, Mourinho also claimed he wasn't offered the job. But carry on...
 
Well, there's no evidence that he's lying. On the contrary, why would he say something that he knew Fergie might publicly deny if were not true? It's not credible that he would do that.

What's your point? Fergie told Maureen he was retiring, ergo we offered Maureen the job (which he then turned down)? I don't get your logic.

Maureen was never going to get that job. The most influential members of the board never wanted him. I don't see it as impossible that Fergie may have dropped a hint to Maureen, but that doesn't indicate in any way we wanted him to take over.
 
I think you'll find that all the (attempted) wheeling and dealing comes from RM, and much of that is invented by Marca.

However, it takes two clubs to make a deal, although RM seem not to have realised this yet. The only "talks" that have occurred between Spurs and RM have involved the latter being informed that Bale is not for sale.

And Bale is a totally unwilling victim of this, doing everything he can to stay aboard the 'AVB project' eh? Total commitment, as you pointed out with the " this and we that". lawlzies.
 
What's your point? Fergie told Maureen he was retiring, ergo we offered Maureen the job (which he then turned down)? I don't get your logic.

Maureen was never going to get that job. The most influential members of the board never wanted him. I don't see it as impossible that Fergie may have dropped a hint to Maureen, but that doesn't indicate in any way we wanted him to take over.


Exactly.

Charlton said this back in December 2012: http://www.theguardian.com/football/2012/dec/07/bobby-charlton-jose-mourinho-manchester-united

#MourinhoRejectedUnited.
 
It's nice that Glaston has something to cling on to in the last few days he has of Bale being a Spurs player.
 
Well, credible rumours have it that you did indeed want Mourinho ... but he turned you down.

Now you have excelled yourself. I went out with the dogs to get some sanity back into my life and I came back to this Storey wannabe.

Your credible rumours are all in your head, like most of your diatribe.

Moyes has been Fergie's first choice for a very long time. Mourinho was never offered the job.

If you are going to be a WUM, try be clever about it. If your serious, you need to find a women, an understanding one.
 
Yes he bloody did.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/22924243

He said he would have turned the United job down.

In any case, he's not going to say anything else, is he?

There was another interview about the same time, IIRC after his first press conference, where he was asked "Did he feel disrespected(or rejected, I can't remember the exact term used), not being offered the United job", and he replied "No, I only wanted Chelsea anyway".

At this point, if he was offered the United job, he surely would have said so.
 
There was another interview about the same time, IIRC after his first press conference, where he was asked "Did he feel disrespected(or rejected, I can't remember the exact term used), not being offered the United job", and he replied "No, I only wanted Chelsea anyway".

At this point, if he was offered the United job, he surely would have said so.


Mourinho has a monumental ego. If he was offered the United job and he turned it down, he'd be chomping at the bit to tell everyone about it.
 
Yes he bloody did.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/22924243

He said he would have turned the United job down.

In any case, he's not going to say anything else, is he?

Saying he would have turned down the job, is not the same as he saying that he wasn't (informally) offered it. As I've already said, why else would Fergie tell him months ahead of time that he was retiring if not to informally and unofficially sound him out about the succession, or at the very least to plant the idea in his mind?

But if Mourinho wanted, as he says, to go to Chelsea, and made this clear to Fergie (again as he said), then things would never have reached the stage of an official and formal job offer because, once again as he says, he would have turned it down.
 
Oh I don't know. After all, it's rumoured that Fergie's Man on here knows next to nothing about football.

:lol: Numpty.

Did you feel the need to try a distraction? Once again a total politician's answer. On the subject of name change, how about Nick Clegg for you. A clueless, yellow twat that never gives a straight answer.
 
Saying he would have turned down the job, is not the same as he saying that he wasn't offered it. As I've already said, why else would Fergie tell him months ahead of time that he was retiring if not to informally and unofficially sound him out about the succession, or at the very least to plant the idea in his mind?

But if Mourinho wanted, as he says, to go to Chelsea, and made this clear to Fergie (again as he said), then things would never have reached the stage of an official and formal job offer because, once again as he says, he would have turned it down.

feck me, you're clutching now.

All you have is a quote from Mourinho saying he would have turned it down, and you're turning that into a rejection.

What we do have is one of the most influential men in United's history, as far back as December 2012, saying that he didn't think much of Mourinho's carry-on, yet you happily dismiss that out of hand.
 
Mourinho has a monumental ego. If he was offered the United job and he turned it down, he'd be chomping at the bit to tell everyone about it.

He pretty much did tell everyone about it by strongly hinting at an informal sounding out by Fergie. The fact that no formal offer was made is pretty much irrelevant.
 
Saying he would have turned down the job, is not the same as he saying that he wasn't (informally) offered it. As I've already said, why else would Fergie tell him months ahead of time that he was retiring if not to informally and unofficially sound him out about the succession, or at the very least to plant the idea in his mind?

But if Mourinho wanted, as he says, to go to Chelsea, and made this clear to Fergie (again as he said), then things would never have reached the stage of an official and formal job offer because, once again as he says, he would have turned it down.

OMG. What a wanker!
 
He pretty much did tell everyone about it by strongly hinting at an informal sounding out by Fergie. The fact that no formal offer was made is pretty much irrelevant.


Ultimately, we'll never know who's telling the truth. What we know is:

- Charlton, as far back as December 2012, put the boot into Mourinho (doesn't strike me as the sort of thing he'd do if he thought there was a chance he'd be a United manager any time in the future);
- Ferguson saying Moyes was his choice;
- Mourinho saying he'd have turned the job down.

You choose to believe Mourinho on the basis on it suiting your agenda. Cool.
 
He pretty much did tell everyone about it by strongly hinting at an informal sounding out by Fergie. The fact that no formal offer was made is pretty much irrelevant.

Next you'll be claiming his comments were a clear indication Fergie admitted to being behind the JFK assassination.

You're having a laugh, I hope. Not the greatest of WUMs, but a decent enough effort.
 
:lol: Numpty.

Did you feel the need to try a distraction? Once again a total politician's answer. On the subject of name change, how about Nick Clegg for you. A clueless, yellow twat that never gives a straight answer.

Your problem is that you don't like the answers given. I've said months ago that I don't think Bale will be sold this summer, and I still think that. But apparently you want to hear something different. I've said that I doubt RM can get the cash to front up the alleged world record bid. But you again apparently want to hear something different.

So, Bale won't be sold and RM don't have the cash anyway. If you want something straighter then try the Roman road along Watling Way.
 
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