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We were never after pace. I'm going to deny that one.

I didn't think we'd get either of fabregas or thiago. In fact I'm not confident of getting big talents from those parts if we're up against real or barca. They are top dogs for those players. But in England, were the top club quite clearly. And we wouldn't be facing a bidding war against Chelsea or City and their billionaire owners either.


It comes down to wonga doesn't it. We're not in the same league as the likes of the sugar daddy clubs and Real in terms of spending power. Now that may piss Rood off or something.
 
It comes down to wonga doesn't it. We're not in the same league as the likes of the sugar daddy clubs and Real in terms of spending power. Now that may piss Rood off or something.
Yup. Money and chances of winning silverware are the two main considerations. And I'd say the former is the more crucial one in general because if you are up there in terms of money then you'd most likely have the latter too. Of course there are other considerations too like style of football, prestige and the current level of the team, but in general I'd say those two dictate it all, particularly money.
 
Yeah but it could've been worse had we inexplicably wanted a Chelsea reject.
A failure at Chelsea. A failure at Spurs. Maybe he'll just keep dropping down the table, failing at every one.
 
Yeah but it could've been worse had we inexplicably wanted a Chelsea reject.

Well, credible rumours have it that you did indeed want Mourinho ... but he turned you down.
 
Yup. Money and chances of winning silverware are the two main considerations. And I'd say the former is the more crucial one in general because if you are up there in terms of money then you'd most likely have the latter too. Of course there are other considerations too like style of football, prestige and the current level of the team, but in general I'd say those two dictate it all, particularly money.
Our most expensive purchase is Berbatov...at what? 30m? It puts it in perspective really*

That's unless we've miraculously pulled off a Ronaldo transfer.
 
Our most expensive purchase is Berbatov...at what? 30m? It puts it in perspective really*

That's unless we've miraculously pulled off a Ronaldo transfer.
Our policy in these times of inflated transfers has been interesting. We won't generally break the bank and overpay a bit (everyone thought it was overpaying at the time) for someone like Javi Martinez but we seem to have no issues doing it for someone costing lesser like young or Bebe or Zaha (people did think it was a big price before pre season). Not saying its a good or bad thing but I do think were very careful about big signings and wary of going overboard with them.
 
And Moyes had already been taken by Everton.

"Taken"? More like stuck in place for many years because no one better wanted him ... or anyway not until United had a brain-freeze.
 
Well, credible rumours have it that you did indeed want Mourinho ... but he turned you down.

Can you direct me to those? You're talking shite fella. The world and his dog knows Mourinho wanted the United job. Once we opted for Moyes, he changed his tune and claimed he would always only ever go to Chelsea. Do you think his ego would have allowed him to rule himself out of the United job?
 
Our policy in these times of inflated transfers has been interesting. We won't generally break the bank and overpay a bit (everyone thought it was overpaying at the time) for someone like Javi Martinez but we seem to have no issues doing it for someone costing lesser like young or Bebe or Zaha (people did think it was a big price before pre season). Not saying its a good or bad thing but I do think were very careful about big signings and wary of going overboard with them.


Which would go against what Fergie said. Didn't he say we've changed our policy? As for younger talent I can see the merit in that, but RVP proved there's no substitute for proven quality. The best striker in the league cost is just over 20m, now that was a great deal.
 
Credible rumours you say? How is that even possible? Rumours are by nature not credible.

Oh I don't know. After all, it's rumoured that Fergie's Man on here knows next to nothing about football.
 
Which would go against what Fergie said. Didn't he say we've changed our policy? As for younger talent I can see the merit in that, but RVP proved there's no substitute for proven quality. The best striker in the league cost is just over 20m, now that was a great deal.
Never read those comments to be honest. I do like our policy with going for a younger talent we believe in and paying extra if necessary because young players are long term investments that hold a resale value even things don't go perfectly according to plan. But I personally think we should be going the extra mile for the bigger players too if it gets us the right man. Players like Javi Martinez might be overpriced at 40 million but there tends to be a shortage of players of that quality and they can improve the team greatly as he did in bayern's case.
 
Never read those comments to be honest. I do like our policy with going for a younger talent we believe in and paying extra if necessary because young players are long term investments that hold a resale value even things don't go perfectly according to plan. But I personally think we should be going the extra mile for the bigger players too if it gets us the right man. Players like Javi Martinez might be overpriced at 40 million but there tends to be a shortage of players of that quality and they can improve the team greatly as he did in bayern's case.

Thing is the nouveau rich clubs have skewed the market.
 
Thing is the nouveau rich clubs have skewed the market.
Sure, and we can't get into bidding wars with them which involve ridiculous fees but overpaying a bit for real quality has its benefits just as overpaying a bit for unproven but undoubtable talent does.
 
Can you direct me to those? You're talking shite fella. The world and his dog knows Mourinho wanted the United job. Once we opted for Moyes, he changed his tune and claimed he would always only ever go to Chelsea. Do you think his ego would have allowed him to rule himself out of the United job?

I see. You dismiss both the rumours and the truth of something that's not a rumour, namely the words spoken by Mourinho. Which basically suggests that you only want to believe what's convenient for you to believe.

Why is it so hard to believe that Mourinho preferred to go to a club in which he already knew the set-up and most of the players, and where the fans love him? Or is this more of what is often (wrongly) said on here, namely the "United get who they want" bollocks?
 
Sure, and we can't get into bidding wars with them which involve ridiculous fees but overpaying a bit for real quality has its benefits just as overpaying a bit for unproven but undoubtable talent does.


Indeed. Who knows though? There's still a fortnight left. Perhaps we shouldn't jump the gun.
 
Indeed. Who knows though? There's still a fortnight left. Perhaps we shouldn't jump the gun.
Of course. I wasn't speaking directly in relation to the fabregas saga. I just hope come the end of the window we do good business.
 
I see. You dismiss both the rumours and the truth of something that's not a rumour, namely the words spoken by Mourinho. Which basically suggests that you only want to believe what's convenient for you to believe.

Why is it so hard to believe that Mourinho preferred to go to a club in which he already knew the set-up and most of the players, and where the fans love him? Or is this more of what is often (wrongly) said on here, namely the "United get who they want" bollocks?

I'm not basing my views on rumour. Mourinho's sickly behaviour in our's and Real's Champions League tie said it all. He had no reason to behave unprecedentedly respectfully, unless he was trying to make an impression.

You're trying to make out that he turned us down, despite Sir Bobby being on record as saying he wasn't keen on Mourinho because he "pontificates too much for my liking." He said that way before Fergie's retirement plans became public, so I say you're talking absolute bollocks when trying to sell this Mourinho turned United down story.

Given the speed with which we appointed Moyes, I'd say there's a good enough body of evidence to suggest we didn't deem Mourinho to be suitable for us. You carry on with your rumours though.
 
Well, credible rumours have it that you did indeed want Mourinho ... but he turned you down.
Being trolled by a Spurs fan is like bring savaged by a dead sheep. Your only damage is you might laugh too hard.
 
Well, credible rumours have it that you did indeed want Mourinho ... but he turned you down.


That's pretty much become an oxymoron after this summer.

When is it going to be acknowledged that basically no-one has a fecking clue? :lol: It's like people on here sometimes that speak as if they have some sort of authority beyond what is said on Twitter and in the media... None of us have any idea what's going on. We don't know what Fabregas, Bale, Levy, Mourinho, Moyes or any of them think or what they're planning.
 
I see.

So what were these credible rumours regarding mourinho being our first choice?

Well, for a start Mourinho says he was told - by the man himself - of Fergie's retirement months before it happened. Is he lying? If so, why hasn't Fergie come out and denied it?
 
Well, for a start Mourinho says he was told - by the man himself - of Fergie's retirement months before it happened. Is he lying? If so, why hasn't Fergie come out and denied it?
And ? How did you go from there to mourinho being first choice? There's no correlation.

Is that the start or do you have more ?
 
Well, for a start Mourinho says he was told - by the man himself - of Fergie's retirement months before it happened. Is he lying? If so, why hasn't Fergie come out and denied it?

Fergie's on record as saying some members of his close family didn't know, so why on Earth would Mourinho know? You're talking shit.
 
And ? How did you go from there to mourinho being first choice? There's no correlation.

Is that the start or do you have more ?

That piece of information he has is wrong. Fergie said that he kept the news secret from members of his immediate family. So he didn't tell his kids but he trusted rent-a-gob Mourinho? Glaston's talking shit.
 
And ? How did you go from there to mourinho being first choice? There's no correlation.

Is that the start or do you have more ?

No correlation? Why would Fergie reveal this big secret to someone outside of the club months ahead of time? You don't think it's possible, likely even, that he wanted to plant the thought of succession in Mourinho's mind?
 
That piece of information he has is wrong. Fergie said that he kept the news secret from members of his immediate family. So he didn't tell his kids but he trusted rent-a-gob Mourinho? Glaston's talking shit.

So why hasn't Fergie denied it and taken umbrage at Mourinho's comments (comments that are a matter of public record)?
 
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