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Would be people honestly be upset if we paid that much for him? Assuming we have the money of course and it did not hinder a move for a midfielder or two.

I wouldn't at all, don't care how much The club spends on great players.

Yes because its bad business and we can't afford that, no club can if they want to be sustainable.
 
Even with inflation, £85mil is an absurd overspend. Bale is very good and all, but Ronaldo went for the price he did because he was basically the best player in the world at the time. Bale isn't close to being that. Ronaldo was sold after scoring 68 club goals over 2 seasons. In his last two seasons, Bale has scored 38.

Not that I'd complain, of course. If Madrid insist on hoovering up all the best players in world football, it's nice that they at least have to pay through the nose to get them.
 
Why are people so bamboozled by this bid. Madrid clearly want him and have a nearly-bottomless pit of money. Levy knows this and is desperate to keep Bale. Not to mention his value went up with the awards he won. He's been the Premier League's POTY twice now. He's only just turned 24. His last few months were reminiscent of Ronaldo at United; single-handedly taking games by the scruff of the neck and winning them on his own time and time again.

And what if Madrid last Ronaldo. What do you realistically think that fee will be as he enters the final two years of his contract? £60m? £80m? £100m? Ronaldo of course is 28.
 
Even with inflation, £85mil is an absurd overspend. Bale is very good and all, but Ronaldo went for the price he did because he was basically the best player in the world at the time. Bale isn't close to being that. Ronaldo was sold after scoring 68 club goals over 2 seasons. In his last two seasons, Bale has scored 38.

Not that I'd complain, of course. If Madrid insist on hoovering up all the best players in world football, it's nice that they at least have to pay through the nose to get them.

They probably wouldn't have to pay close to that if they actually negotiated, they're just Real Madrid, they actually think it's a good thing to shatter records and spend far more on players than all their rivals. They're fecking bonkers.
 
Why are people so bamboozled by this bid. Madrid clearly want him and have a nearly-bottomless pit of money. Levy knows this and is desperate to keep Bale. Not to mention his value went up with the awards he won. He's been the Premier League's POTY twice now. He's only just turned 24. His last few months were reminiscent of Ronaldo at United; single-handedly taking games by the scruff of the neck and winning them on his own time and time again.

And what if Madrid last Ronaldo. What do you realistically think that fee will be as he enters the final two years of his contract? £60m? £80m? £100m? Ronaldo of course is 28.

Yeah but Ronaldo's done that for three seasons, not just a few months, and in the CL knockout stages, not just against Southampton and Sunderland.

Ronaldo was and still is a much better player. That's no insult to Bale, obviously but still.
 
I think we can all agree that football has completely lost the plot. In my lifetime I can only think of a couple of 45/50M+ transfers (Ronaldo, Zidane, Figo, Kaka) - some of the best players of all time, but in the last couple of summers there have been a rash of them (Hulk, Falcao, Cavani, Torres, Neymar, Bale presumably). I know there has been inflation, but there seems to have been a complete abandonment of common sense. FFP? Financial lunacy more like. Now to get a decent player you have to bid 30M+. Just look at Real buying Illarramendi. What was it? 34M? Just total bonkers. Football will lynch itself at this point. I almost hope United start to exclusively look at bargains and the kids. Someone needs to change the plot.

Not for a while yet .... Every year, tens of millions in Asia and Latin America enter the spending lower middle class. That will continue for at least 10 years. All spend money on satellite dishes and internet access. There is still ample room for football to increase its relevance to an ever growing global audience.

No matter the actual economy, more money is generated within football every year, but the number of elite clubs and elite players remains the same. Even the most incompetent economist will tell you that is perfect scenario for insane inflation.
 
Sorry, I missed that part. You mean the fees payed for top players were generally higher back then? I'd have thought that prices have naturally inflated (as they always do in football) + been pushed up by the mega-money clubs, no? Thus you get deals and prices that seem overpriced (Cavani, Falcao, Lucas, Suarez, Fernandinho, Bale) but actually reflect the current standard in the market. If 2009 era Ronaldo was around today would he not be going for around 100m?

Well all the records are back when Ronaldo was signed. Ronaldo, Kaka, Ibrahimovic, 3 of the top 5 along with Zidane and now Cavani. Its 7,8 and 9 where recent transfers bar Cavani come in with Falcao, Torres, Neymar. So I think its fair to say that until this point, prices for the top players havent gone up - but maybe the 2nd tier have
 
They probably wouldn't have to pay close to that if they actually negotiated, they're just Real Madrid, they actually think it's a good thing to shatter records and spend far more on players than all their rivals. They're fecking bonkers.

That's just fine by me. La Liga is a financial land mine just waiting to blow. If Madrid want to ignore the ominous beeping and continue dancing madly on top of it, that's their funeral.
 
Glaston always gets the rival thing a bit muddled. He's right to not want to sell us Bale, but not because we are rivals. We are not at all (at the moment). But there's nothing wrong with Spurs thinking they can catch us on the playing field in the future. A few years ago Bayern Munich fans would have laughed at Dortmund for thinking the same thing.

No muddle: the future at least starts this coming season ... which is why it wouldn't make sense for us to sell Bale to you or any other top 4 Prem team from last season.
 
That's just fine by me. La Liga is a financial land mine just waiting to blow. If Madrid want to ignore the ominous beeping and continue dancing madly on top of it, that's their funeral.

It's quite depressing really when you consider how fecked Spain are as an overall country. 26% unemployment and 60% youth unemployment, and here's their biggest club spending £85m on a fecking monkey.
 
If Spurs keep £85 million Bale, don't they walk the league? I thought Ronaldo won it on his own for us?
 
Yes because its bad business and we can't afford that, no club can if they want to be sustainable.
I disagree and I do think the cash is there. Also it would be a huge signal of intent and IMO would quickly become our best player
 
It's quite depressing really when you consider how fecked Spain are as an overall country. 26% unemployment and 60% youth unemployment, and here's their biggest club spending £85m on a fecking monkey.

:lol: harsh
 
They probably wouldn't have to pay close to that if they actually negotiated, they're just Real Madrid, they actually think it's a good thing to shatter records and spend far more on players than all their rivals. They're fecking bonkers.

Since the late 1980s, in a UK context, people said the same about us when SAF consistently shattered the UK record season after season. Robson, Pallister, Keane, Andy Cole, and Rio Ferdinand were all record breaking transfer fee's.

I have no problem other teams doing so. Its there money and we'd do the same if we had the cash.
 
I disagree and I do think the cash is there. Also it would be a huge signal of intent and IMO would quickly become our best player

But if we do have that kind of money then let's make a statement of intent by offering 50m for Fábregas or Gündogan. Or 80m for Ronaldo.
 
Since the late 1980s, in a UK context, people said the same about us when SAF consistently shattered the UK record season after season. Robson, Pallister, Keane, Andy Cole, and Rio Ferdinand were all record breaking transfer fee's.

I have no problem other teams doing so. Its there money and we'd do the same if we had the cash.

Robson wasn't a SAF purchase. And all the others weren't just crazy luxury buys.
 
Yeah but Ronaldo's done that for three seasons, not just a few months, and in the CL knockout stages, not just against Southampton and Sunderland.

Ronaldo was and still is a much better player. That's no insult to Bale, obviously but still.

That's true, but I don't believe Madrid would regret forking this much out for him. Time will tell though.
 
Since the late 1980s, in a UK context, people said the same about us when SAF consistently shattered the UK record season after season. Robson, Pallister, Keane, Andy Cole, and Rio Ferdinand were all record breaking transfer fee's.

I have no problem other teams doing so. Its there money and we'd do the same if we had the cash.

Hmm, quite a large distance between those players and their cost relative to their worth at the time and Bale.
 
Robson wasn't a SAF purchase. And all the others weren't just crazy luxury buys.

point remains the same.

And who are we to say Bale is a luxury buy? Madrid won nothing last year. They need to step up.
 
Well all the records are back when Ronaldo was signed. Ronaldo, Kaka, Ibrahimovic, 3 of the top 5 along with Zidane and now Cavani. Its 7,8 and 9 where recent transfers bar Cavani come in with Falcao, Torres, Neymar. So I think its fair to say that until this point, prices for the top players havent gone up - but maybe the 2nd tier have


How many seriously top players have actually transferred since then though? The likes of Bale, Torres, Neymar, Cavani and Falcao aren't at the Ronaldo/Zidane/Kaka(at the time) level. If nobody of that quality moves then it logically becomes more difficult to break the transfer record, until prices become so inflated that inferior players catch up with and surpass the previous records. I think a current player of Ronaldo/Zidane/Kaka quality would absolutely smash the transfer record, even if Bale sets a new one.
 
Ronaldo won World player of the year, off some Premier league medals and a Champions League medal as well as having 3 consistently great seasons, one being world class.

Bale scored 26 goals... and now they've bidded more. How would that make Ronaldo feel knowing he could be bought for £5 million more than him?

Ronaldo wanted to go to Real, and we needed to sell him that summer.
 
Hmm, quite a large distance between those players and their cost relative to their worth at the time and Bale.

Rio's, Veron and Rooney's prices were eye watering at the time. All happened within a few years of each other under the PLC board. They were not money shy!
 
Of course we are, no disrespect to Spurs but your a million miles away from our standard. A great season for you would be finishing 4th, that would almost be a disaster for us. Just look at Arsenal they finish top 4 every season yet are years behind us as well, the gap from 4th to 1st is huge (or in your case 5th)

You exaggerate.

We finished just 3 points behind Chelsea last season (and ahead of them the season before) and have now added Paulinho and Soldado (and more) since then. Yet supposedly Mourinho is such a great manager that his arrival makes them favourites for the title according to many caftards, whilst Spurs in contrast are "a million miles away" from your standard.

Sorry, I don't buy it. Spurs might well not finish in the top 4. But we've been there or thereabouts for several seasons now and - especially with all the managerial changes - I see this coming season as potentially being one of the most open in recent times. So it's far from impossible that any of last season's top 4 might not finish in the top 4 again this time around.
 
One way to look at this, is that Bale is pivotal to whether Spurs finish in the top four or not. When we sold them Ronaldo, you could argue that we were still strong enough to win the Premier League and Champions League without him (pretty much were). Spurs without Bale and not much money in the kitty for me would mean absolutely no chance of bettering 5th place. This will have helped open Madrid's wallet, but it's still an outrageous sum for a player I think isn't worth that much.

Cannot and never will justify it, but there has to be a bit of understanding as to what this deal is about. Spurs need to sign 3-4 £20m+ players to improve their squad to the degree (well, probably a bit more even) Bale does.
 
At the time Keane and cole for sure were looked upon as being massive fees


By British standards-yes. By European standards Keane was a bargain. At the time the world record transfer fee was £13mil. Italian clubs were spending massive money compared to the rest of Europe.
 
I'm starting to think something else is up. If this deal goes through for more than 80m, I wouldn't be surprised if Florentino knew something more about Ronaldo that we don't. Can't think of anything else at this point, this has panic-buy written all over it.
 
By British standards-yes. By European standards Keane was a bargain. At the time the world record transfer fee was £13mil. Italian clubs were spending massive money compared to the rest of Europe.

What was it? 3 million? What a steal :drool:
 
I'm starting to think something else is up. If this deal goes through for more than 80m, I wouldn't be surprised if Florentino knew something more about Ronaldo that we don't. Can't think of anything else at this point, this has panic-buy written all over it.
No it doesn't at all. He wants both in his team. It's typical Madrid for me.
 
I'm starting to think something else is up. If this deal goes through for more than 80m, I wouldn't be surprised if Florentino knew something more about Ronaldo that we don't. Can't think of anything else at this point, this has panic-buy written all over it.

£85 million panic buy. The world of a Madrid supporter
 
I'm starting to think something else is up. If this deal goes through for more than 80m, I wouldn't be surprised if Florentino knew something more about Ronaldo that we don't. Can't think of anything else at this point, this has panic-buy written all over it.

What are serious ITK Madrid fans saying on their gossip boards?
 
I'm starting to think something else is up. If this deal goes through for more than 80m, I wouldn't be surprised if Florentino knew something more about Ronaldo that we don't. Can't think of anything else at this point, this has panic-buy written all over it.

Not to me. Just looks like he wants the hottest talent available now urgently as your pre season has started. Neymar going to Barca must have hurt him even though we all knew, so he has to try and beat them. I'm sure he's muppet dreaming if Ronaldo and Bale on either wings.
 
No it doesn't at all. He wants both in his team. It's typical Madrid for me.

I love the audacity of Real Madrid. Just love it. I think I'd love supporting them ( I don't).

I never thought the largesse of the first Galatico era would be surpassed. But then Mourinho turned up and hoovered up every single muppet buy in world football. And now he's gone and you think he cant be surpassed, so they start this Bale nonsense having already spent £65m this summer.

This approach to football is deeply hard wired into their DNA, they genuinely are the glamour team of world football bar none. That strategy may not translate into playing supremacy, but for the fans, it must be so much fun.
 
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