Yes please, Spurs need a Bale out
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I would love it if we signed Bale. He's a quality winger and if he had license as a bombarding LB it would be a sight to see.
If the signing of Kagawa means we are likely to see a 451 variation then Bale at LB becomes a possibility...
2nd XI
If the signing of Kagawa means we are likely to see a 451 variation then Bale at LB becomes a possibility...
Rooney
Welbeck ----=====--------Nani
Kagawa - Scholes
Carrick
Bale ----=====--------Rafael
Vidic - Rio
DDG
Welbeck ----=====--------Nani
Kagawa - Scholes
Carrick
Bale ----=====--------Rafael
Vidic - Rio
DDG
2nd XI
Hernandez
Young ----=====--------Valencia
Anderson - Cleverley
Jones
Evra ----=====--------Fabio
Evans Smalling
Lindeegaard
Ressies: Fletcher, Park, Giggs, Powell, Macheda
Young ----=====--------Valencia
Anderson - Cleverley
Jones
Evra ----=====--------Fabio
Evans Smalling
Lindeegaard
Ressies: Fletcher, Park, Giggs, Powell, Macheda
Wow.
As someone has mentioned, unless something mental like Nani leaving happens, why would we spend 30+m on a left sider.
Because he could play LW or as an attacking LB, and Nani is equally adept on the right wing? We have three wingers currently who are all right footed and (Including Nani, if you hadn't noticed) and not one left footed winger. Ashley Young played on the LW more than Nani last season, and while he is a good player Bale would be a definite upgrade.
If we are to go 433 it allows for very attacking minded full backs, as the DM drops deep. Its a flexible formation that can quickly become a 343. It would give license to our FBs who like to bomb forwards (Evra, Fabio, Rafael, and potentially Bale in this discussion), whilst allowing us an extra man in midfield which we sorely missed in Europe especially last season. The DM role is ideal for Carrick, and potentially it could become the position for Jones as he is not a full back and his best moments have come bursting forwards rather than at CB.
Is that enough for you?
Has everyone in here forgotten that hes a fairly terrible LB?
I'm not advocating playing him LB in a 442 against decent sides. Obviously.
Also the last time I recall him playing LB he was still only 19 or so. Very young for a defender in the top flight.
Also the last time I recall him playing LB he was still only 19 or so. Very young for a defender in the top flight.
I agree. Hence my 'just sayin'' diclaimer
Bale on the left with Nani on the right, as people seem to be getting so hard over, would not be as good a wing pairing as Valencia and Nani already are.
It'd cost £30m+ to weaken our team.
It'd cost £30m+ to weaken our team.
Why not? For me Bale and Valencia on either side potentially looks incredible. Pace, power and a regular supply of quality deliveries.
A case can of course be made for any combination of the wingers, i just don't really know how any can be deemed to be any weaker or superior than any other.
I can tell i've been playing too much soccermanager!
Muppet Mode: Signing both Modric and Bale
Realistic Mode: Signing Modric but not Bale
Muppet Mode: Signing both Modric and Bale
Realistic Mode: Signing Modric but not Bale
We will never spend 30 mill on another winger unless Nani is on his way out.
Then why would you sign him? If he's unreliable in defense why sign him?
You disappoint me Philip. I'm going to have to give you one of these (
) for that first line up. Also, leaving Vidic out? Really? Really?bale plus a defensive minded midfielder.
You disappoint me Philip. I'm going to have to give you one of these (
I explained that! If you're playing 3 at the back you can't afford to have a slow defender (which Vidic is). You need 3 pacey CB's. Otherwise a player with pace could easily break through. But yes it felt horrible not putting his name on the teamsheet, I love the fella
I explained that! If you're playing 3 at the back you can't afford to have a slow defender (which Vidic is). You need 3 pacey CB's. Otherwise a player with pace could easily break through. But yes it felt horrible not putting his name on the teamsheet, I love the fella
I don't agree at all to be honest. Obviously pace is nice but he more than makes up for his lack of it in other ways. I don't think he's that slow he shouldn't be included anyway.
Plus, he'd likely be alongside the likes of Jones and Smalling who are more than quick enough to compensate plus you'd have the wide players doing their bit too.
Wtf?
Why does everyone want Bale?Will cost a bomb.
Unless Nani is leaving,there is now way we will sign Bale.And Nani is quite better than him.
Bale is more like Valencia and could replace him than Nani.
Why does everyone want Bale?Will cost a bomb.
Unless Nani is leaving,there is now way we will sign Bale.And Nani is quite better than him.
Bale is more like Valencia and could replace him than Nani.
I suspect because he's a very good player. I agree he'd cost a fortune though and would much rather the money be spent elsewhere seeing as we're quite strong in those areas already.
We have plenty of wingers, dont need another one who are on the same level
I'm beginning to think that Nani might leave.
There are rumours here and there and he seems to me to be the type that would listen to any club that rubs his ego.
So if he does go then yeah I'd like Bale but if he stays then no, spend the money on someone else. ( assuming there is money)
Nani keeps saying he wants to stay at United and he has 2 years left on his contract.
They'll sit down and sort a new one out in the next 6 months.
Losing Nani and replacing him with Balebalebale would be sad.
They'll sit down and sort a new one out in the next 6 months.
Losing Nani and replacing him with Balebalebale would be sad.
Too much FIFA or Soccer Manager indeed, that's a bizarre thing to say! We've seen Italy playing a back three this tournament with Chiellini and Bonucci who aren't particularly rapid. Juventus played the same two defenders in their back three throughout the season. Inter played Samuel and Ranocchia in their back three. The less said about the Napoli backline's pace the better.
If I'm honest I'd have bale over Nani. Not because I think that he is technically a better player but because it would have a better balance to the team. In the same way I'd have Valencia on the right
You're crazy GB.
There are probably no wingers I'd take over Nani. Certainly not Bale.
I'd take Nani, if United were to sell him.
We could use him on the right. He's the same age as Hulk and I rate him higher.
How much do you figure he'll cost?
We could use him on the right. He's the same age as Hulk and I rate him higher.
How much do you figure he'll cost?
Well to put it simply, he isn't going anywhere.
And Bale for £30m+ are people being serious?
It has been said before, by medical practicioners
If we lose Nani this summer and replace him with Bale I'll be gutted. Don't get me wrong, Bale is a good player and i'm sure he'd do well at United, but I wouldn't have him ahead of Nani.
#1244.
As would probably most United fans. I just see something in Bale that screams out "united player" and someone whose game would definitely step up. On the other hand, Nani can produce a moment of magic but is infuriatingly inconsistent.
I'd rather keep Nani but I'd love to have Bale in the squad in addition.
If for whatever reason it's out of our control then I would expect/hope for us to make a nice profit if we had to sell Nani but bought in Bale.
If for whatever reason it's out of our control then I would expect/hope for us to make a nice profit if we had to sell Nani but bought in Bale.
Not needed but would be an exciting transfer nonetheless.
I wouldn't say i would have him over Nani, but i have made this very argument before that Bale and Valencia to me are wingers. Nani imo is a wide forward more than a winger and although he is effective on the wings, his delivery is not as consistent as Bale or Valencia, and for me Nani is wasted stuck out on the touchline.
Is Nani a winger though Brophs really? Not for me, his best attributes are long range shooting on either foot, making space in tight areas, and causing havoc basically in and around the box. I just don't see him as a wide on the touchline winger, like i see in both Bale and Valencia.
If i can offer an example. Early last season when TC and Ando played, they carried the ball so far forward but delivering it to the wqide men that both Nani and Young were receiving it almost on the edge of the box, in close proximity to the other attackers.
when we play with Carrick and Scholes, the attackers are receiving the ball much further away from goal and are therefore much wider spread aopart and more isolated. Nani is wasted under those circumstances for me. He is expected to dribble past his full back and then pick out possibly one or 2 tightly marked players in a crowded box. That is clearly more suited to Valencias game than Nani's.
Compare the stats of both Nani and Young when TC and Ando played in the centre for those few games, and contrast them to when other pairings were in the middle later on. The attacking personnel and the system was the same, but the difference in their effectiveness was imo governed by how deep they were receiving the ball, and how that made things much more difficult for them, as opposed to the first few games.
Many will obviously disagree, but that's how i see it.
I still think Nani has what it takes to play upfront, so Bale wouldn't necessitate his sale.
Personally GB, I think his inconsistency is grossly overestimated on here, and amongst United fans in generally. He WAS inconsistent, a few years back, but over the past couple of seasons he's been United's most dangerous attacking player after Rooney. He gives us something different, that unpredictable quality he has is hard to replace. As good as Bale is, he's more predictable, and replacing Nani with him would be a step down in my opinion. We'd still have a very effective winger on our hands, but I don't think we would strengthen with that swap. And if a transfer doesn't strengthen your team, where is the point in it?
How?Seriously?
From Nani I have never heard anything else but staying and playing for United.
Why do people make assumptions against Nani?
Probably the most ungratefully treated United player.
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