You can't post sense in a Bale thread, pete will eat you up.
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You can't post sense in a Bale thread, pete will eat you up.
Odd comparison. Bale is a winger and Johnson is a fullback that can't defend.
How did United miss out on Bale?
Was it like the Ramsey situation and Bale figured Spurs would be a quicker track to regular first team appearances?
Was it like the Ramsey situation and Bale figured Spurs would be a quicker track to regular first team appearances?
I see this thread is still going strong, complete with yet more laughable valuations.
Apart from anything else, why is it so difficult for posters on here to understand the difference between "valuation" and "price"?
It's immaterial what manager X or fan Y thinks Bale is worth. The only figure that counts is what price would persuade Spurs to become reluctant sellers .... because the club would be more than happy to see no bids made for him and will - if forced - set a price designed to deter all-comers except those willing and able to pay crazy money.
20m would not even persuade Spurs to sell Bale's right leg. Those who think otherwise are deluding themselves.
From what I remember this is pretty much it.
Probably didn't help when he saw an established players like Gaby Heinze leaving because he couldn't get a game at left back.
What do you value him at?
Id say his value would relate heavily to whether or not Spurs make the champions league this season. Not making the Champions League might make them more inclined to sell if the player wants to leave. Being in the champions league could add £10m onto his value.
Spoony seemed to be giving his personal view on how much he thinks he's worth, nothing more or less.
Personally I think the prices for every player who has a hot season are getting ludicrous, I rate Bale but the notion you'd need to pay Kaka' money for him is insane IMO.
I think we'll see him at United in the next two years
So do I. I'll be disappointed if we don't.
He's gonna be a United player, you can just see it.
Do we drop Valencia or Nani to make room, then?
At the price he'd cost, I'd rather the money be focused elsewhere really.
We never made a bid from memory, just rumoured with one. Ramsey - we thought we'd signed him.
At the price he'd cost, I'd rather the money be focused elsewhere really.
We never made a bid from memory, just rumoured with one. Ramsey - we thought we'd signed him.
Cows.
Bale on the left, obviously. Nani/Valencia on the right. And try Valencia through the middle.
Bale's a fullback who can't defend but is lucky enough his speed makes him good enough to be a winger.
His dribbling skills are limited to using his superior pace to outrun his marker and the likes of Rafael and Neville have shown that if you stick close to him and do not allow him the chance to get to far ahead, he can be stopped.
He won't be much of a threat if you have a decent fullback who won't bomb forward at every opportunity.
He might be good enough in the future, but there's no way he's worth 40m on the basis of a few good games coupled with some average ones.
He is never worth 40m and no player in the Spurs current side is worth that much... But if a team is looking to buy Bale on current form and with Spurs not lacking any money, it should take around that much should Spurs consider an offer.
Simple really...
I'd go for 22m max
Was Rooney, Rio? Bale is still very young, if we did want to sign him then he'd be a long term asset and therefore the price would be balanced out through the years. He isn't worth it now, but give it a few years and he could exceed that. You're buying into future potential.
He's lightning quick, very, very good crossing and intelligent in his positioning, clinical infront of goal (backed by his shot-goal ratio). I'd say the only fault with Bale is his right foot.
No, that's why we paid 30m :P
Oi you
The concept remains the same.
Hehe. I'd never pay 40m for him though, I don't think he can quite reach the heights of Rio or Rooney, the former was the worlds best defender 2 years ago, and Rooney (before going crazy and shagging birds behind his preggo wifes back etc) was regarded as one of the worlds best players, as good as Bale can potentially be, I wouldn't put him in that bracket.
22m would be about right, as others have suggested.
I would put him in that bracket, he is becoming one of the best around in the PL.
Is about right, but he's got a wicked cross on him as well.
I seriously don't want him at United though. Nani is the superior player and talentwise, he trumps him too. Valencia is pretty good as well.
I'd say scoring 3 goals at the San Siro and then assisting 3 in the return leg is a world class display. He needs to put in a few more performances of this stature before he gets the pricetag of 40million I agree.
But i'd go as far as saying he's been the best player in the premiership this season so far. Another team destroying game against Arsenal will help rise his stock even further.
No way, he's been far too random, one game he'll destroy a team and the next he'll do nothing. Nani has been the best and most consistent (never thought I'd say that) winger in the PL this season, Aston Villa was the only bad match he's really had and he still got a glorious assist at the end. Then there's Essien, Vidic, Tevez, Nasri, VDV who've all been consistently better too.
Don't get me wrong, he's a great prospect, I'd love him at Utd, but people are going way overboard on him because 1 out of 3 games he'll wreak havoc on teams.
VdV hasn't played alot of games, alot of question marks regarding his fitness. Tevez started off in good form but like Berbatov has struggled in the last few months. Essien and Vidic have both been hot and cold.
Nasri and Nani are good shouts, i'd say Bale is up there with them in terms of productivity and match winning displays. I watch alot of Tottenham and he is that good. He has struggled with games after midweek CL.
He's really not,him and Nani both have 4 goals, Nani has 9 assists and Bale has 1. If you're saying Essien and Vidic have been hot and cold (which they haven't, 1 or 2 bad games out of 12 is hardly that) then what exactly has Bale been?
As for assists, if you watch Spurs you'll see that he's a continual threat down the left and teams can't contain him when he's on form. He had a very quiet game against us yes, but on the whole he's been dynamite. I watch alot of Spurs and he's been they're best player by a long way this season and I hate hyping up players. Espically Bale considering I very much enjoyed taking the piss during his record breaking winless streak. Eating humble pie now.
As for assists, if you watch Spurs you'll see that he's a continual threat down the left and teams can't contain him when he's on form. He had a very quiet game against us yes, but on the whole he's been dynamite. I watch alot of Spurs and he's been they're best player by a long way this season and I hate hyping up players. Espically Bale considering I very much enjoyed taking the piss during his record breaking winless streak. Eating humble pie now.
You're backtracking, you said they've been level on output, they haven't, Nani has clearly given more, I don't see how you could argue that Nani hasn't been the better player this season.
Bale hasn't been consistently great at all, he was rubbish against us, in fact he's disappeared in most of Spurs bigger games in the PL this season. You can't keep using his performances against Inter as backup to claiming he's been brilliant all season.
Shellshocked and baffled by the Bale nut-cupping going on here... only a few people sane enough to see he's not all that. Time will show him up.
a good player at best, but you'd think he's got Ronaldo/Messi potential when you read posts of the Bale nippleslurpers on here...
a good player at best, but you'd think he's got Ronaldo/Messi potential when you read posts of the Bale nippleslurpers on here...
It's the new hypedrive - as Mancini said a couple of dribbles and they're lauded as the new Garrincha.
If you had read the post properly...
Completely agree
Ain't it true, he has the potential to be a very good player, but world class? Nah.
So either Valencia or Nani will be morphed into central players to accommodate Bale's arrival. Interesting.
Might be coming out of left-field a tad here, by why not buy a central player, using Nani and Valencia on the wings - where they made their names?
I just don't class Bale in that "too good to miss out on" bracket, I guess. Happy with what we've got in that position.
Might be coming out of left-field a tad here, by why not buy a central player, using Nani and Valencia on the wings - where they made their names?
I just don't class Bale in that "too good to miss out on" bracket, I guess. Happy with what we've got in that position.
Which reminds me, Valencia and him are pretty much the same level, with Bale having better finishing skills while Valencia has better defending abilities. It baffles the mind that people are questioning whether a left footed welsh version of a player we bought for 16m (supposedly) is worth us stumping 40m for.
Which reminds me, Valencia and him are pretty much the same level, with Bale having better finishing skills while Valencia has better defending abilities. It baffles the mind that people are questioning whether a left footed welsh version of a player we bought for 16m (supposedly) is worth us stumping 40m for.
That's actually a really good point, but the Chief can easily refute that. Why? Because left footed players are better at penalties.
As people know, I love stats, so I have made a Game Log for Bale, like I've done in the past for Nani.
Season 10/11
Gareth Bale
Nani
*The MOTM for Bale is a mix-match from various Spurs sites (Some of them only have MOTM threads when they win. Probably sites run by Glaston)
I don't know how reliable they are. Bale is God in most Spurs fans eyes, so wouldn't put it past them to vote for him no matter what.
Like Bolton match for example. If I remember correctly this was where Bale's crossing was awful, he hit the first defender fifty times out of fiftyfive.
Either way, it shows how important he's been for them.
Season 10/11
Gareth Bale
Code:
[B][U]Date Opponent Result G A MOTM:[/U][/B]
nov-13 H-Blackburn W 4-2 2 1 No. 1
nov-09 H-Sunderland D 1-1 0 0 0 votes
nov-06 A-Bolton L 4-2 0 0 No. 4
nov-02 H-Inter W 3-1 0 2 No. 1
Oct 30 A-Man United L 2-0 0 0 No. 6
Oct 23 H-Everton D 1-1 0 0 0 votes
Oct 20 A-Inter L 4-3 3 0 No. 1
Oct 16 A-Fulham W 1-2 0 1 0 votes
Oct 2 H-A Villa W 2-1 0 0 0 votes
sep-29 H-Twente W 4-1 1 0 No. 1
sep-25 A-West Ham L 1-0 0 0 0 votes
sep-18 H-Wolves W 3-1 0 0 No. 3
sep-14 A-W Bremen D 2-2 0 0 No. 1
sep-11 A-WBA D 1-1 0 0 No. 4
aug-28 H-Wigan L 0-1 0 0 No. 3
aug-25 H-Young Boys W 3-0 0 0 No. 3
aug-21 A-Stoke City W 1-2 2 0 No. 1
aug-17 A-Young Boys L 3-2 0 0 No. 2
[U]aug-14 H-Man City D 0-0 0 0 No. 1[/U]
8 4
[B][U]Wales:[/U][/B]
Oct 12 A-Switzerland L 4 - 1 1 0
Oct 8 H-Bulgaria L 0 - 1 0 0
sep-03 A-Montenegro L 1 - 0 0 0Nani
Code:
[B][U]Date Opponent Result G A MOTM:[/U][/B]
Nov 13 A-A. Villa D 2-2 0 1 1 vote
Nov 10 A-Man. City D 0-0 0 0 0 votes
Nov-2 A-Bursaspor W 0-3 0 0 Off 30 min.
Oct-30 H-Spurs W 2-0 1 1 No. 1
Oct-24 A-Stoke W 1-2 0 0 No. 6
Oct-20 H-Bursaspor W 1-0 1 0 No. 2
Oct 16 H-WBA D 2-2 1 1 No. 1
Oct 2 A-Sunderland D 0-0 0 0 No. 4
sep-29 A-Valencia W 0-1 0 0 No. 3
sep-26 A-Bolton D 2-2 1 1 No. 1
sep-19 H-Liverpool W 3-2 0 1 No. 2
sep-11 A-Everton D 3-3 0 2 No. 2
aug-28 H-West Ham W 3-0 1 1 No. 3
aug-22 A-Fulham D 2-2 0 1 No. 6
[U]aug-16 H-Newcastle W 3-0 0 0 No. 3[/U]
5 9
[B][U]Portugal:[/U][/B]
Oct-12 A-Iceland W 1-3 0 0
Oct-8 H-Denmark W 3-1 2 1
sep-07 A-Norway L 1-0 0 0
sep-03 H-Cyprus D 4-4 0 1*The MOTM for Bale is a mix-match from various Spurs sites (Some of them only have MOTM threads when they win. Probably sites run by Glaston)
I don't know how reliable they are. Bale is God in most Spurs fans eyes, so wouldn't put it past them to vote for him no matter what.
Like Bolton match for example. If I remember correctly this was where Bale's crossing was awful, he hit the first defender fifty times out of fiftyfive.
Either way, it shows how important he's been for them.
The arrogance in this thread is amusing.
If Bale was for sale then Harry Redknapp would not be on the verge of selling Kranjcar!
Its pure insantiy that some fans on here think Bale is over rated. The types of goals he has scored and assists he has made this season suggest a monster player in the making. Spurs rely on him too mcuh so in soem games he is simply kanckered! His opening day top corner volley to his glancing header goal against Blackburn last week were the goals of a serioulsy talented player and shows he is more than just pace!
Its pure insantiy that some fans on here think Bale is over rated. The types of goals he has scored and assists he has made this season suggest a monster player in the making. Spurs rely on him too mcuh so in soem games he is simply kanckered! His opening day top corner volley to his glancing header goal against Blackburn last week were the goals of a serioulsy talented player and shows he is more than just pace!
Bale got a very bright future , such a sin he will never shine at the highest stage ( WC/EC) like Gigsy , Litmanen and several other great players.
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