Well Neville, Rafael, Steinsson and Onuoha managed it well enough. He's got 1 league assist in 13 games.
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He's fast. That's just about good enough for us these days by all accounts.
He's on the way to 20+20 goals and assists this season. Watch him rape Sagna this weekend.
Over Emmanuel Eboue's dead body.
In the league he's got 3 goals and 1 assist. Theo's got the same numbers in less than half the games.
Actually he's scored 4 goals in the league + 4 in the CL, making 8 in total.
As for assists, I have him down for 9 assists in all competitions ... I don't know how many of these are in the Prem.
Assists stats vary from site to site and are unreliable in my experience, which is why I prefer to look at each goal and see for myself who got the assist.
£20m. Anything more is daylight robbery.
He's not actually dead when he lies down on the floor motionless after being blown by the wind you know
Bale's got 2 assists in the league according to the official Premier League site which also counts converted penalties won, shots blocked etc.
So that's 13 games, 4 goals and 2 assists.
Nani in comparison has 4 goals and 9 assists in the league from 11.01 matches (991 minutes).
So that's 13 games, 4 goals and 2 assists.
Nani in comparison has 4 goals and 9 assists in the league from 11.01 matches (991 minutes).
I can't be bothered wading through the love in with Bale but I was wondering if anybody thought he isn't that amazing? Sure he is good, but I can't see him developing too much further. He's essentially brilliant at knocking the ball past his man and beating him for pace. End ball is great too. Other than that he's not going to be a world beater and we should not be breaking the bank for him.
He's joint 67th on 1 according to the official PL site. Same goals and assists as Feo who's played 5 games.
Basically he's worth £50m?
I think you were about right at £20M.
Talent and skill wise, yes. If you consider the current hype, adds another 10m for sure
Dont forget Man Utd tax
And the negotiating with Levy tax
Tottenham price is simple; not for sale.. When you want such players it is not the player that is so expensive, its buying out that fact. I think we will have to pay more than we did for Dimitar Berbatov if we are to sign him. If you look at the Barcelona and Real Madrid rejects, and the differences when they are not, and are for sale, you see they are a bit more than twice as much when they are not for sale.
Zlatan Ibrahimovic - Not for sale from Inter €60m, for sale from Barcelona €24m
Wesley Sneijder - Not for sale from Ajax - €28m, for sale from Real Madrid €15m
Rafael van der Vaart - Not for sale from Hamburg - €15.5m, for sale from Real Madrid €8m
Based on the figures of Real Madrid and Barcelona rejects the difference between a player for sale and not for sale is about twice the fee. (I am not saying that is a good way to compare the price, but at least its one source of data thats available) So if he would be worth £20m, the price to actually sign him would be somewhere around £40m... If we are to get him for less than that, he probably has to ask Tottenham to be allowed to leave and make shit like that. But if Bale leaves Tottenham in the summer, I bet the price will be somewhere around €40m
No one in their right mind would pay £40M for Bale.
Then he is probably staying put at Tottenham, it would be really hard for them to replace him if he indeed left.
£80m for Ronaldo
£56m for Kaka
£35m for Benzema
£31m for Berbatov
Bale as a young, British, left footed player who's proven he can take the best right back in the World (Maicon) apart on his day in a CL game is not gonna go for around £20m in the current football climate (a climate we have helped establish by taking part in the largest transfer of all time last year).
Bale should be compared to the Rooney transfer. And I'd say £35m is realistic.
Before anyone starts snarling, I have to add that I despise the current financial situation within football, I'm not advocating these prices, just stating it as I see it.
£40M for a winger with one assist in 13 league games, who's been marked out of the match by Phil Neville, Nedum Onuoha, Gretar Steinsson and Rafael in four of his last five league games? Bonkers.
If Bale was at United his assists would be through the roof.
To even think for second that Tottenham will sell Bale for less than what they sold Berbatov to us for just because some people think player prices are inflated is just a tad bit delusional dont you think?
Id say Tottenham value Bale around the 35 Million mark and even if an offer of that came in then its still highly highly unlikely that they will sell even if they dont make the top 4 this year.
Bale would be a shockingly big improvment to our left wing and to think otherwise is being a bit 'rose tinted glass's-ish'. Cleverly and Bebe are unfortunately a long way off from getting to Bales level right now.
Id say Tottenham value Bale around the 35 Million mark and even if an offer of that came in then its still highly highly unlikely that they will sell even if they dont make the top 4 this year.
Bale would be a shockingly big improvment to our left wing and to think otherwise is being a bit 'rose tinted glass's-ish'. Cleverly and Bebe are unfortunately a long way off from getting to Bales level right now.
Be a bargain at that price and 10 years service and would slot in perfectly as Giggsy retirement is imminemt and you wouldn't find a more natural replacement anywhere.
He is by no means the finished article yet but he is going to be some player and thats not that hard to see.
We've heard it all before about Young, Bentley, and Lennon.
And Pennant, Walcott and Reyes.
I'd rather have Alexis Sanchez for £15M less.
35million pounds for a speed merchant? FFS, put a right winger who can defend, in front of a decent right back, and he will be rendered useless. I mean, he is the classic kick and run, and as long as the opponent restrict the spaces, he is half the player already. Same thing with Walcott.
Welsh version of Glen Johnson. Albeit a faster one.
Spurs will be well within their rights to milk as much as possible for Bale should they be tempted to sale him. But I will like to echo PS and other sceptics, this is the first time he has hit a rich vein of form at the top level and let's see him sustain it for a couple of years atleast before we start talking about the £30mil plus price tag.
To put it in perspective, Gareth Bale has 4 goals and 1 assist in 13 league starts this season and is touted as a £30mil plus player YET Charles Nzogbia has 3 goals and 1 assist in 10 (1) league games this season and he could have gone to Birmingham for £9mil in the summer.
Very interesting
To put it in perspective, Gareth Bale has 4 goals and 1 assist in 13 league starts this season and is touted as a £30mil plus player YET Charles Nzogbia has 3 goals and 1 assist in 10 (1) league games this season and he could have gone to Birmingham for £9mil in the summer.
Very interesting
You're being a bit harsh on him Peter
Arsenal fans here are ridiculously biased when it comes to Spurs players. They make us when we're judging Liverpool players look totally unbiased.
Bale is outstanding. Don't care much for statistics. He's just a brilliant young player. Good ball control, blistering pace, strong, can defend, scores goals regularly (8 this season!) and has an excellent final ball. Basically all the tools for a fine winger.
If his strikers need 5 chances to put one away it isn't his fault. Get him supplying Drogba and his assists go through the roof.
Fact is, even IMO - if Bale has not proven too much, other then showing up the Serie A for being too slow to handle the pace of PL teams (which tbf, has been proven quite a bit over the last decade) - he is going through a hot streak and his star seems to be the flavour of the month - so you're not going to be able to get him for anything less then 35-40M. If he has a quieter "final half" of the season, and Spurs fail to qualify for the UCL next season, you might get him off them for something along the lines of 20-25M - and again you would be very lucky if Levy sold him for that amount, especially to us.
IMO, I'd try and give 1 or 2 of our youngsters (Cleverly, Obertan &/or even Welbeck/Morrison) a chance to prove themselves first, let Bale develop at Spurs a bit (maybe run down his contract a bit more) and if need be, put in a bid for him.
This might backfire of course, he could just get better and better...
IMO, I'd try and give 1 or 2 of our youngsters (Cleverly, Obertan &/or even Welbeck/Morrison) a chance to prove themselves first, let Bale develop at Spurs a bit (maybe run down his contract a bit more) and if need be, put in a bid for him.
This might backfire of course, he could just get better and better...
In all Competitions Barring Internationals (stats taken from espn):
________.Goals___Shots___Shots on Goal____Chance of Scoring
Nani______.5______58_________16_______________9%
Bale______.8______35_________15_______________23%
Nasri______9______42_________16_______________21%
N'Zogbia___4______28_________10_______________14%
Bales played the most games but he seems to be a bit shot shy. But he also seems to be the most accurate with 43% chance of hitting the taget with Nani on 28%.
________.Goals___Shots___Shots on Goal____Chance of Scoring
Nani______.5______58_________16_______________9%
Bale______.8______35_________15_______________23%
Nasri______9______42_________16_______________21%
N'Zogbia___4______28_________10_______________14%
Bales played the most games but he seems to be a bit shot shy. But he also seems to be the most accurate with 43% chance of hitting the taget with Nani on 28%.
I'd be scared to think how much Nani's shot ratio was this time last year...
Nani in 09/10: Jun-Dec 2009
Games: 13
Goals: 2
Shots: 32
Shots on Target: 16
Chance of Scoring: 6%
Since Janauary 2010 (when he returned from form and started playing well):
Games: 20
Goals: 5
Shots: 53
Shots on Target: 18
Chance of Scoring: 9%
Pretty much identical to his current stats this year.
Games: 13
Goals: 2
Shots: 32
Shots on Target: 16
Chance of Scoring: 6%
Since Janauary 2010 (when he returned from form and started playing well):
Games: 20
Goals: 5
Shots: 53
Shots on Target: 18
Chance of Scoring: 9%
Pretty much identical to his current stats this year.
I'm not sure what more you want from a winger - especially one who's only 21 years old.
Also seems to have the "big game" temprement too.
Will be a very good player if he keeps developing.
Now now... He's overall game is much more than stats on the paper pete.
Let's wait and see how he does vs Le'Arse Shall we ?
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