Yeah, this ain't happening. Manager says so.
Thread lock given Mourinho and Bale's comments?
Thread lock given Mourinho and Bale's comments?
Gareth Bale | Mourinho: "Game over. Now everyone knows he's going to stay."
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Yes, meaning that until now we've not done anything.
He also said he'd not given it any thought.
So he did nothing apart from create a goal and hit the crossbar. Right.
Grizmann rejected us.
Demebele will got to Barce
Draxler has just gone to PSG
Perisic and Carrasco maybe.
Yeah, but we are definitely heading in the direction.Matic probably wouldn't have looked out of place in their team, he was so good yesterday. First we should be a domestic force, and then go for Europe's elite. I think we are well on our way to challenge for the PL. Also we have a pretty young team, which is always good. Most of the players haven't hit their prime yet.
Let's go and buy mbappe
Bale leaving was never game on but if it is him starting don't mean anything because the rumour he might leave is based on Mbappe signing which he has not yet and the fact that Ronaldo was not fit yesterday. Bale was always likely to start like i say i don't think he will leave even if Mbappe signs but last night him starting means nothing and if he does stay i think he might be on bench quite a bit because Isco looks a top player.
We already have two young strikers we want to develop and one we are probably fecking up.
Yep. Ross wants Rachel, Rachel isn't that keen because she's with some fancy European. Then the fancy European decides it likes some new meat better. Then Rachel starts looking at Ross like a decent alternative. Then Ross takes Rachel and Rachel spends the whole season injured while Ross has to make do with Jesse Lingard.
Well, who wouldnt? He plays for the best team so I also dont see a reason to move
Yep also feel like we are improving, if our players gel like they could do this season then we are a lot closer to making a go of it in Europe, and could have a side that are always in with a shout of beating the big sides.
The problem is that we have had a large potential now for a few years, but our younger talents arent quite developing at the speed you would want them to. Depay didnt turn out, Januzaj and Wilson couldnt break through, Martial cant consistently display his potential, Lingard looks to be a bit one dimensional and even Rashford who really has been the ideal turnout from a young player is in his pretty much third season now and you would hope to see that end product.
Fergie always wanted 7 or 8 top class players around to bring through youngsters and to cover for less talented players, and I dont think we are quite there yet, maybe in a year or two with new signings and hopefully Martial or Rashford pushing on.
Which makes all the speculation all the stranger. I know from Mourinhos point of view he just wanted to be first in line should he leave, but that's never even remotely looked likely.
I had hopes for this but you could see last night he really loves it at Real and playing for them. No chance he'll move especially to a far more inferior team
Whixh is why we'll put off signing perisec or another winger til transfer deadline day. To give this Bale deal every possible chance of happening
Yeah it would be a step down for him. He'll get enough minutes for Madrid if he stays reasonably fit. I think these injuries have made people forget what a bloody brilliantly player he is.
Agree with that. If his hearts not in it, we need to look elsewhere. What we need are creative wingers who have a knack of getting goals. We don't need the world's best at that, we need players who could do that regularly for us in the league.
I think Mahrez is a very achievable option. He's nowhere near as good as Bale, but he likes to hang wide, he beats a man and he can cross/go for goal. He may not hit the dizzying heights of the year Leicester won the league, but the way he stretches defences would give our other players an opportunity they didn't have before.
Monacos Lemar is another option. Douglas Costa was one too before Juve moved in. If we're going to play 433 we need wide attackers who are good, not the very best money can buy.
Gareth Bale wants to be at Madrid more than fecking David De Gea! Unless he has given some indication behind the scenes that he is the slightest bit horny at the thought of playing for United then I'd be in favour of forgetting he even exists. Let him come begging when Perez has shipped him out, or his ankles have given way and then give him a resounding FU.
Having said all of that if I'd have him like a shot this summer if he was up for it.
Having said all of that if I'd have him like a shot this summer if he was up for it.
Firstly, Bale does not wanna come to United. Secondly, Isco as the No. 10 was the best player yesterday. He was given the free license to be attacking in every position. The guy is phenomenal and is still only 25. So some things to take note off were that our midfield was pretty decent. Herrera, Pogba and Matic kinda worked but what we lacked was the link between midfield and attack. We had Lingard, Mhiki and Lukaku in attack. Lingard and Mhiki are NOT exceptional wingers. Mhiki plays his best when behind the striker and his link up play is a lot better. Jose needs to trust Mhiki with the role what Real give Isco. If we take a look at our winger situation, Rashford, Martial, Lingard, Mata, Mhiki.... Out of the 5, neither of them are actual wingers.... Martial I guess could be considered a winger because of his ability to beat his man. Lingard goes missing.... He offers work rate but is just not good enough to start for us. He can't beat his man.... He usually thrives when getting the ball in space and him trying to outrun his man. Our wingers in the past have had two main qualities... ability to beat their man with trickery and pace and most importantly having the ability to provide pin point crosses consistently for our strikers to attack. Our more effective wingers (of the modern era) have been Beckham, Giggs, Ronaldo, Nani and Valencia. Now, it doesn't take a genius to notice that our current bunch don't possess those skills and we can't keep blaming our strikers for the lack of goals when our wingers are just not good enough. Bale would have been a good option for us but he won't come and he's a risk as well since he's injury prone. Draxler would have been a good option as well but trying to get him from PSG would be difficult. We need atleast one WORLD CLASS WINGER to connect the midfield to attack and help Lukaku score his goals. Lukaku thrives on service and can go missing if our wingers aren't doing their job. Dembele or anyone out there who can meet the criteria that I've mentioned earlier needs to come in or otherwise we are just going to struggle and even bringing Zlatan back won't help our team.
We could have locked the thread after the first post, was never going to happen and thank the heavens for that.
I think too many people are reading too much into Bale starting v us. Ronaldo was never going to start, he's just back from his extended break. Jose almost forced Real's hand with his pre match comments. I think that match more than ever highlighted to Jose what he lacks in the attacking third. I certainly wouldn't write this rumour off just yet, not saying it will happen but I don't think it's as dead in the water as some think.
I'd rather have Perisic than Bale - he's what we need right now.
no sooner does Jose say it's over, the redtops tells us we are about to bid £100m. sign....
Jose's refusal to shake his hand twice was class lool.
Might i suggest playing martial on regular basis and see the magic unfold?
Watching Real Madrid again yesterday in the Super Cup reasserted my opinion that Real don't really need Bale. They have Isco, Asensio and L.Vazquez all challenging him for his position in the starting XI and I'd probably argue that Isco is actually a better player right now.
So with that, I'm surprised Florentino is not up for selling Bale. Not only will his minutes be reduced year on year due to the other players deserving minutes, but also if he has a couple of injuries this season too then Real Madrid could end up in a Rooney situation with him. Which is to have a player who has a very high salary (considering his situation) and thus the only way to sell is to massively reduce the transfer cost or scrap it altogether.
I'm sure that thought must have crossed Zidane's and Florentino's minds. I can understand Bale perhaps wanting to stay there if he feels comfortable and has some assurances that he's still indispensable to the team.I'm just not sure why he'd be given such assurances. Though it's not like Real need the money to be fair after selling James, Morata, Danilo and releasing Pepe.
So with that, I'm surprised Florentino is not up for selling Bale. Not only will his minutes be reduced year on year due to the other players deserving minutes, but also if he has a couple of injuries this season too then Real Madrid could end up in a Rooney situation with him. Which is to have a player who has a very high salary (considering his situation) and thus the only way to sell is to massively reduce the transfer cost or scrap it altogether.
I'm sure that thought must have crossed Zidane's and Florentino's minds. I can understand Bale perhaps wanting to stay there if he feels comfortable and has some assurances that he's still indispensable to the team.I'm just not sure why he'd be given such assurances. Though it's not like Real need the money to be fair after selling James, Morata, Danilo and releasing Pepe.
Asensio will replace him in the team this season, and I'd gladly see him replace him as a transfer target if not.
He will want to play ss if he ever comes here.
Agree on the bold part. I think Douglas Costa is a good shout as his crosses are quit good and he also has pace.
I've got a feeling that IF Bale has another season like the last two, he'll have to make a lot of compromises in the future. He won't be in a position to demand 600k pw as well as playing in the position he wants and having a team built around him.
Real currently don't play him in the position he wants, Ronaldo plays that role. And I'm not sure anyone would build a team around a 29yo who's come off 3 injury riddled seasons in a row. The teams that would be willing to do that would be the teams that won't be able to afford his salary.
A lot hinges on that if, of course. But then if that doesn't come to pass and Bale has a barnstorming season, then he definitely won't want to move and Real will not want to sell.
Yeah definitely. That will be like taking the headache away from Madrid and on to us.
Douglas Costa moved to Juve this summer buddy. He's gone.
To be honest, if I was Madrid I would sell him.
He's not going to play ahead of Ronaldo, Benzema or Isco. Asensio looks excellent, and Vazquez is fine as a 5th choice.
Bale is arguably 4th/5th choice imo.
He's not going to play ahead of Ronaldo, Benzema or Isco. Asensio looks excellent, and Vazquez is fine as a 5th choice.
Bale is arguably 4th/5th choice imo.
If he has a season similar to the last two then there won't be many teams willing to take the risk of buying him.
I agree. Bale is losing serious value this summer and it looks to be the right time for all parties to make a move back to England. A lot can change in a year and Bale may put himself into something of a predicament if he continues to pick up injuries and/or loiter on the bench in place of Asensio.
Exactly. Which means that Real Madrid would be in an awkward position.
Bale currently earns double what Isco, Vazquez and Asensio earn combined. Considering the progression of the others that's hardly a sustainable situation. Both because the younger players are starting to overtake Bale and they deserve more money and because Bale starts to not be worthy of his salary.
This summer seemed to be perfect opportunity for RM to untangle themselves from that situation. They passed on the opportunity. Therefore they are they ones who took a risk.
If I were Florentino, I'd have tried to keep Morata this summer and sell Bale instead. They have plenty of wide forwards, but they do lack a clear #9 behind Benzema. Also Bale going would have freed so much salary money up which could be reinvested either on a new shiny toy or on simply tying up Isco and Asensio in particular on better long term contracts.
Isco's contract expires at the end of this season and he still hasn't signed a new one. And big teams across Europe would be happy to splash a 200k-300k salary on his feet especially at the prospect of signing him for free (bear in mind Pogba is on £250k according to football leaks). Real will seriously need to offer him a very good salary to keep him. Something that he seems to thoroughly deserve too.
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I feel this is the best time to sell him IF they want to sell. They have very good talents in Asensio and Isco. Ronaldo is a guranteed starter and so is Benzema. Which leaves Bale out to dry. They'll get good money, enough (well, mostly enough) to get Mbappe from Monaco. I wish we had problems like this.
I'd be just as happy to take Pulisic on way less wages a year from now when he should be almost ready then for a bigger move.
Mourinho likes consistency though and players coming into their prime so he'd probably go for Bale but for sure Mardid will sell Bale within a year and probably would have sold him to us already had CR7 not got the 5 game ban.
Mourinho likes consistency though and players coming into their prime so he'd probably go for Bale but for sure Mardid will sell Bale within a year and probably would have sold him to us already had CR7 not got the 5 game ban.
Well yeah at least Bale is consistent. Consistently injured, that is.
PS. I'm not that fussed about us signing Bale. I think he's not a good option for us right now, though Mourinho seems to want him. I'm just surprised Real are not looking to offload him given the his situation and how good the kids coming through are.
Pretty much this.
Another thing is that both Isco and especially Asensio will start demanding more playing time.
That is an absolute disgrace if true.
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