Television Game of Thrones (TV) • The watch has ended

The latest episode was nice. When I read some of the posts initially saying the episode was boring, I was a little hesitant to watch just this 'boring' episode but then couldn't stand waiting for the next episode to watch them together. Now am I glad that I watched it this week!!

Not looking for any book spoilers but is Natalie Dormer's character supposed to be younger in the books? She was married to Joffrey and is now looking to get married to Tommen who is in his teens.

The last scene was I think the highest point of the episode. So now what are the sets of characters we know exist beyond the wall?
The Wildlings, The guys who eat crows (the group of Styr....are they wildlings as well?), the zombie like things (what are they called again?) and now these new people from the previous episode (white walkers?)


And.. nice to see others on here also do not appreciate Littlefinger's accent. I feel like muting the video and just reading subtitles in the scene where he speaks. It's that annoying.
They are the same thing. White Walkers.
 
Wait. So you're saying the things that were 'walking' (like the zombies from TWD) in the last scene of season 2 (or was it season 1, can't remember) are the same as these guys who ride horses and look somewhat different are the same? My memory is pretty screwed up then.
Yes and they look exactly the same.
 
Wait. So you're saying the things that were 'walking' (like the zombies from TWD) in the last scene of season 2 (or was it season 1, can't remember) are the same as these guys who ride horses and look somewhat different are the same? My memory is pretty screwed up then.
If I recall correctly, there were white walkers riding horses in the last scene of season two along with shuffling, walking ones. They are the same ones, both had blue eyes also.
 
If I recall correctly, there were white walkers riding horses in the last scene of season two along with shuffling, walking ones. They are the same ones, both had blue eyes also.


Yes and they look exactly the same.


So we only have the wildlings and white walkers beyond the wall. Thanks for clearing it up!
 
Wait. So you're saying the things that were 'walking' (like the zombies from TWD) in the last scene of season 2 (or was it season 1, can't remember) are the same as these guys who ride horses and look somewhat different are the same? My memory is pretty screwed up then.
There are two different things in there.

- White Walkers, which is a species in itself that resides in The Land of Always Winter. They are the ones we saw in the last episode, the white colored ones, with blue eyes riding on the horse. They can only be killed with dragonglass and possess superhuman strength.

- Wights, which are reanimated dead bodies that serve the white walkers. They look like the zombies which we saw in the last episode of season 2. They can be killed by fire. The White Walkers are the ones who reanimate the dead bodies along their path of destruction and turn them into wights who serve them as their army.
 
The walking ones at the end of S2 aren't White Walkers, they're Wights. And before anyone moans, it's all been explained in the show before.
White Walkers possess the magical powers related to ice and cold. Their arrival is usually accompanied by blizzards and the dropping of temperatures. They can also freeze anything they touch, as one froze Sam's sword to the point that it shattered.

However, one of their most deadly abilities is to reanimate the dead as their servants, known as Wights. They are actually capable of reviving any dead animals as wights, as a few White Walkers have been seen riding undead horses. When revived, their eyes turn an icy blue, similar to the White Walkers' own eyes. Wights can only be killed by fire and serve the Walkers without question, actual White Walkers can only be killed by Dragonglass (what Sam killed the one in S3 with).
 
So there are indeed 2 different things. OK. Now if Sam killed a white walker (as per @Cina's post) then who was it that was killed in Castle Black when Jon Snow's wolf bit someone (in season 2?)? Was that a Wight or a white walker or a wildling?

And in the last scene of the previous epsiode where Caster's new born is 'turned' - what is he turned into? A white walker because he gets the same blue eyes and is turned when he's alive or a Wight (whom I assume has to be killed before he gets turned into one)?

I'm confused now :(

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If a white walker can freeze things, then how did Sam kill that thing with a small knife? And can someone refresh my memory as to where he got it from?
 
So there are indeed 2 different things. OK. Now if Sam killed a white walker (as per @Cina's post) then who was it that was killed in Castle Black when Jon Snow's wolf bit someone (in season 2?)? Was that a Wight or a white walker or a wildling?
Season one no? John killed them by fire, so they were Wights.
 
@Cina Sorry I didn't remember which season it was.

So if that was a Wight, how did it get beyond the wall? Has that been cleared in the show already or is it something from later in the books?

Sorry but i'm having so many questions 'cos I just can't seem to remember things enough to connect the dots without reading anything about the books online.
 
@Cina Sorry I didn't remember which season it was.

So if that was a Wight, how did it get beyond the wall? Has that been cleared in the show already or is it something from later in the books?

Sorry but i'm having so many questions 'cos I just can't seem to remember things enough to connect the dots without reading anything about the books online.
I can't 100% remember but as I recall, two rangers went beyond the wall scouting, they were killed by White Walkers, the bodies were found and they were brought back to Castle Black. They came back to life as Wights then that night (because they were killed by the White Walkers) and attacked people, and Jon killed them by burning them.
 
@Cina Sorry I didn't remember which season it was.

So if that was a Wight, how did it get beyond the wall? Has that been cleared in the show already or is it something from later in the books?

Sorry but i'm having so many questions 'cos I just can't seem to remember things enough to connect the dots without reading anything about the books online.


When alive he was a member of the nights watch who went missing on a ranging north of the wall. They went out searching for him and the others who went missing with him, found his body and brought it back to the castle with them.
 
So there are indeed 2 different things. OK. Now if Sam killed a white walker (as per @Cina's post) then who was it that was killed in Castle Black when Jon Snow's wolf bit someone (in season 2?)? Was that a Wight or a white walker or a wildling?

And in the last scene of the previous epsiode where Caster's new born is 'turned' - what is he turned into? A white walker because he gets the same blue eyes and is turned when he's alive or a Wight (whom I assume has to be killed before he gets turned into one)?

I'm confused now :(

EDIT:

If a white walker can freeze things, then how did Sam kill that thing with a small knife? And can someone refresh my memory as to where he got it from?

Can you remember anything? Serious question.

Sam killed the thing with Dragon Glass. It was a stash they found buried north of the wall.
 
If a white walker can freeze things, then how did Sam kill that thing with a small knife? And can someone refresh my memory as to where he got it from?
Good lord man! Watch the show again.

The rangers found a batch of knives and shards buried around some weird bunch of stones when north of the wall, they turned out to be made of Dragon-glass (as it sounds, forged from glass burnt by Dragons) and because it killed the White Walker when he stabbed it, it proved that that's what they have a weakness to (when he had his normal sword out, the White Walker froze it by holding it).
 
Good lord man! Watch the show again.

The rangers found a batch of knives and shards buried around some weird bunch of stones when north of the wall, they turned out to be made of Dragon-glass (as it sounds, forged from glass burnt by Dragons) and because it killed the White Walker when he stabbed it, it proved that that's what they have a weakness to (when he had his normal sword out, the White Walker froze it by holding it).

Can you remember anything? Serious question.

Sam killed the thing with Dragon Glass. It was a stash they found buried north of the wall.

Yes, I really need to start watching the show again from season one.
 
So there are indeed 2 different things. OK. Now if Sam killed a white walker (as per @Cina's post) then who was it that was killed in Castle Black when Jon Snow's wolf bit someone (in season 2?)? Was that a Wight or a white walker or a wildling?

And in the last scene of the previous epsiode where Caster's new born is 'turned' - what is he turned into? A white walker because he gets the same blue eyes and is turned when he's alive or a Wight (whom I assume has to be killed before he gets turned into one)?

I'm confused now :(

EDIT:

If a white walker can freeze things, then how did Sam kill that thing with a small knife? And can someone refresh my memory as to where he got it from?
The small knife was made of dragonglass, that kills white walkers.
 
Yes, I really need to start watching the show again from season one.
That's actually what I did. You get a lot better idea of things when you watch it all over again once. I actually had remembered very little from season 2in the first viewing but got the details right much better in the second time out.

inb4 you are jobless. Yes, I am. :p
 
Yes, I really need to start watching the show again from season one.
I rewatched season 1 and most of season 2 in the past 2 weeks. I really knew nothing about a lot of the characters until now

I had missed so much

Also there is a really good GOT Wiki that doesnt have book spoilers thats very handy.
 
I rewatched season 1 and most of season 2 in the past 2 weeks. I really knew nothing about a lot of the characters until now

I had missed so much

Also there is a really good GOT Wiki that doesnt have book spoilers thats very handy.
Yeah, that's what I quoted the White Walker stuff from:

http://gameofthrones.wikia.com/wiki/White_Walkers

Although it does have a section called "in the books" farther down, just to warn yiz.
 
I'm definitely going to rewatch from the very start again at some point, tempted to buy the S1-3 box set. It's such an overwhelming show that the experience would probably be vastly different with the prior knowledge we now have.
 
Bookmarked.

Wonder how the book readers keep tabs on the characters/every little thing - the books are years apart and I'm sure when the first 2 books came out, we didn't even have such internet forums to gather info from!

I didn't read A Song of Ice and Fire that early, but there were absolutely forums and chat services in the late 90s.
 
Dany's assistant is way better, if she get's her kit off with the unsullied then we shall debate :drool:
Agreed. Dany's assistant is way hotter than Dany. Just have a look at this GIF.

NSFW!
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She is the one!

Even Doreah, the one who teaches her all those raunchy sex moves and played by Roxanne McKee, is way hotter than Dany.
 
The most "interesting" story for me is what is going on at Dragonstone. Melisandre's magic is devastating. She has already eliminated Renley. And while Joffrey and Robb died because of other reasons, it happened after she granted Stannis three wishes so who's to say it was nothing to do with that!

I love Ser Davos, he's an incredibly clever man and I expect a lot from him. They really need an alliance, though. Getting Renley's army was good, but if they want to attack again, they really need to make some allies. Maybe House Martell can support them, as they are not too fond of Lannisters themselves. The Lannister-Tyrell alliance is pretty tough to break at the moment.