I saw a couple of their shields in the build up.
Television Game of Thrones (TV) • The watch has ended
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Jamie (@Vault Dweller) are here to talk about United's dreadful home defeat at the hands of Big Ange's Tottenham Hotspur. Should this have been the end of Ten Hag? How long does he actually have left? And does Nik finally want ETH out?!
It wouldn't be surprising going by the writing up until this point!
Did she call him his valerian name,Torgo Nudho?
Big "laugh out loud" at Qyburn ... 
Talk about tasting your own medicine
Talk about tasting your own medicine
The episode was like someone set off the pyrotechnics early and they just rolled with it saying feck it
But its not like Danny to do this, it's so out of character, oh Jon doesn't want to have sex with her so she burns everything, it doesn't makes sense ffs.
shes cancelled
Please tell me you googled that.
Bran gonna warg into Drogon and burn down the remainder of the wall.. Last scene will be more night walkers approaching the threshold.. Dun dun dun
It doesn't, yet people did and do it in real life all the time. The pointless of killing helpless people is probably the most realistic part of any of the battles this season.
Yes
But thought that cos somebody else calls him that in a previous season i was rewatching with gf _ think a slave (s6)
Now that's wild!
While I agree with what you are saying, its still out of character for Danny, her madness wasn't developed properly to say the least.
Oh come on, it's been both hinted and talked openly about all along. She's been on the verge of making really bad decisions numerous time only to be talked out if it by advisors. We've seen visions of it, we've seen major characters talk about it. Ser Barristan talked openly to her about it.
Whilst I do agree that the actual descent this season seems a bit far fetched, it's not a surprise at all. Bad writing or not, she was always going this way.
Were you offended? Why don't you come up with a theory. Any! I will say yours is better too. It's that easy
It's not a surprise, but as I said the build up to it was shit to say the least, it'll probably make more sense in the books, had they made a 10 episodes season it would've been better perhaps, I disagree with the way they are ending the series is all.
I don't need to win internet points for having a better theory than some bloke on the caf. His opinion (as does yours, as does mine) carries no weight.
And no, I wasn't offended in the slightest.
Me too. I think we all are really.
I don't know what else they could have done with her after the decision to make the WWs cannon fodder after all. But they haven't been exactly great closing out many character arcs at all. Theon, maybe the Hound, have been ok conclusions but even that shit with Jaime/Cersei was just damp.
As predictable as it may have been, especially since we saw Wildfire, that should have ended with her setting it off and Jaime killing her but this time too late (unlike the Mad king). Would have ended his redemption arc perfectly for me and brought it all full circle.
But meh, I'm not a screenwriter.
The flaw (I think) is the fewer-but-longer episode structure of this season, which I don't think suits TV as a medium. Making the episodes longer doesn't change the fact that the audience processes the plot episode by episode, which means you can't do too much at once without jarring the audience. As opposed to films say, where the audience are fine with a character making huge shifts over the course of an hour or so.
For example, last week's episode was basically two short ones jammed together in terms of Dany's character development. In the first half we see her increasing paranoia, in the second we see her grief. If those exact same beats had been done across two episodes it would have seemed more natural, despite being the same basic developments.
Yeah, I agree with that. Although these are basically like 4 movies, they are hard to be viewed like that.
But her paranoia and grief are totally justified, not a gateway to instant insanity.
I hope they do an almost identical scene in the finale
You're taking things far too seriously brother
It's just to emphasize that the writing has been subpar that silly things are feeling realistic. Last week I was tickled by someone saying that Wolves should ride the dragons and win the GoT. Dont take me seriously at all
And Arya should've died trying to protect the city, GoT never used to use plot armour.
It's not instant though!
She has quite clearly been on a knife edge all along. Losing everyone around her has been the final shove, but she would have had to have been one sandwich away from full blown crazies all along. Which we were pretty much told and shown from S1 she was.
How did her S1 behavior reflect any kind of insanity?
Walking into fire for a start.
But I give up, you are right, she wasn't a bit mad all along and this is a total surprise all because Jon turned her down. The end.
There had been questions around her temperament before this season though, which is why Varys and Tyrion immediately started wondering about Jon as an alternative once they found out that was an option. The paranoia and grief were just the latest parts of the approaching insanity, not the beginning of it.
Thinking about it, having one of your main protagonists go insane and turn into the bad guy is such a George RR Martin move, in much the same way that killing off your main protagonist in season/book one was. Probably should have known it was coming.
Read an article the other day about babies being named Daenerys or Khaleesi since the show started.
Kinda funny now.
Kinda funny now.
Again I've said its not a surprise, but in the build up she tells Jon its either love or fear, so again all I'm saying the build up is shit, Arya finding a horse in the middle of a destroyed city and staying alive afte two fatal blows is shit, Jaime's arc is shit, and they butchered Tyrion and Jon character development the last 2 seasons imi, I'm just not feeling good about the conclusion.
Yeah I'm with you on that mate.
I'm telling you that fecking horse is something special though.
Did you notice the lock of "reddish" hair in it's mane? Or the Bravosi coin on the reigns? Not serious, hahaha
The idea of Daenerys going mad is fine but having it happen over five minutes in a 72 hour show is dreadful writing.
Why was Varys so careless? He's built a career out of serving cnuts. Why lose the rag now? Why does Tyrion trust Cersei to do anything he wants her to? Why's Jaime's entire storyline amounted to him just going back to the person he developed to move away from?
Visually superb and contained a bleakness the show has lacked for ages, but the plot has properly fallen to pieces.
Why was Varys so careless? He's built a career out of serving cnuts. Why lose the rag now? Why does Tyrion trust Cersei to do anything he wants her to? Why's Jaime's entire storyline amounted to him just going back to the person he developed to move away from?
Visually superb and contained a bleakness the show has lacked for ages, but the plot has properly fallen to pieces.
it didnt happen over 5 minutes. the signs were there for a long time
Calling it now.
Then again I also thought that weird looking woman was him, even for a bit after she became a badly burnt sunday roast
On another note, I wonder if Varys got any of those letters out? It's a bit late in the day now, but who would they go to anyway? This new Dorne prince?
She's showed signs of instability and insecurity but so have plenty of characters. She goes from someone we're meant to be at least partially rooting for to the point of literal insanity within a scene, all because her mate died. This being a character who's spent her entire existence being persecuted and with people who wanted to kill her. Getting brutal and holding no prisoners would've been fine - becoming the show's most evil character within the space of an episode is just shite writing. And I say that as someone who liked the idea of an extended arc where she started to go a bit mental. It was done terribly.
I see what you did thereCalling it now.
Then again I also thought that weird looking woman was him, even for a bit after she became a badly burnt sunday roast
On another note, I wonder if Varys got any of those letters out? It's a bit late in the day now, but who would they go to anyway? This new Dorne prince?
As for the letter...I'm assuming he sent one to the Citadel, where the old Grand Maesters will sit around a table wondering what to do until Sam rides in on a.....white horse and sets everything right!