Except I feel like a PSG fan right now
Television Game of Thrones (TV) • The watch has ended
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Except I feel like a PSG fan right now
How can people complain the ending was rushed or panicky?
What did you expect? The muggles to get the better of the WW and overcome them tactically and piece by piece? They held their own so NK just bought everyone back to life again. What the feck are they supposed to do?
It was always going to be a death like that. Out of the blue, surprise.
What a rollercoaster that was. Only slightly disappointing thing is lack of star names dead. But you've all been crying out for action then moan when you get one of the greatest battle scenes on TV.
What did you expect? The muggles to get the better of the WW and overcome them tactically and piece by piece? They held their own so NK just bought everyone back to life again. What the feck are they supposed to do?
It was always going to be a death like that. Out of the blue, surprise.
What a rollercoaster that was. Only slightly disappointing thing is lack of star names dead. But you've all been crying out for action then moan when you get one of the greatest battle scenes on TV.
They've decisively won the other two battles at Hardhome & then again when they took a dragon down.
Be quiet you tart.
It's all the subreddit of the books. So don't go in this thread if you haven't read the books cos there will be book talk there.
It shouldn't be a straight choice between action and script. The early seasons had both. It's clear D&D are not the best without a book to go off. They just do fan service now instead.
There was no reason given for the WW appearance after 10k years and the way they died was so pathetic. If Arya is such a great assassin then just go and fecking kill Cercei on your own. Bran is just pointless. I would have trusted the show in the past to explain his weirdness but with 3 episodes to go and what we have seen in the last couple seasons I would expect nothing
Ah sorry, good point. I'll post the OP's instead
Good grief, could that have been any stupider or more meaningless?
But seriously, if that's how you see it you have to temper your expectations a little bit.
You basically have 2 choices. Enjoy it for what it is now or be pissed off every week.
There was plenty to enjoy about this episode and re. the white walkers intent/origins/backstory etc. One there's still time. Bran will probably explain it randomly. But most likely, there is a spin-off and they don't want to give too much away.
Good grief, will people quit watching or just talk about quitting to watch?
Have you never played in Heroes of Might and Magic? Countdown and mana.
Agreed. The thought came to my mind when the dead were about to kill Dany and I've had absolutely no worry whatsoever.
Jon was nothing short of a bum for the first hour
feck off with the avengers spoilers please
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Oh I am so sorry . Let me edit it .
Edited it so you also go ahead and delete my quote so that it's not spoiled for the rest.
Good grief I'm about to watch it. I will report back at ten hundred hours; in two hundred hours time.
Loved the episode. Music and battle scenes was very good.
Im backing you up mr mouse
And the rest. WW was his story and he did feck all in the end
Same with Jon. Surrounded by literally thousands and not a single bit of tension that he'd die
Awesome battle scene but overall predictable. The only surprise was who would kill the night king. There was nothing clever going on. Everything was pretty straightforward.
The final three episodes have to be typical GoT drama with lots of intricacy and surprises rather than fight scenes. The only battle that I'll be interested in is the Mountain vs the Hound.
The final three episodes have to be typical GoT drama with lots of intricacy and surprises rather than fight scenes. The only battle that I'll be interested in is the Mountain vs the Hound.
Unbelievable episode if you ask me. It’s not the easiest if things to balance so many characters and story lines together but they did it very well. The snow and fire created this great atmosphere which along with the music really elevated the episode. Also loved the change in pace when they took the battle inside Winterfell with Aarya, from open grounds to the claustrophobic insides of the castle.
There was no way they could have taken the WW battle to King’s Landing because they lose Winterfell with the Night King commanding the whole armies plus the Unsullied and most probably three dragons, then the battle at King’s Landing would have just been a formality. They had to end it at Winterfell when they knew the Night King would show himself to kill Bran. Also the creators spoke about how it had to be Valerian steel and how Arya stabbed the NK where the children of the forest stabbed to make the first white walker which was a nice touch.
Expected Jon to survive the Ice Dragon and then ride it to kill the NK, But was pleasantly surprised to see Arya.
I’ve not been a big fan of last two,three seasons, but this episode was one of the best things I’ve ever seen. Agree that they could have killed off a few more star characters but other than that, it was fantastic
There was no way they could have taken the WW battle to King’s Landing because they lose Winterfell with the Night King commanding the whole armies plus the Unsullied and most probably three dragons, then the battle at King’s Landing would have just been a formality. They had to end it at Winterfell when they knew the Night King would show himself to kill Bran. Also the creators spoke about how it had to be Valerian steel and how Arya stabbed the NK where the children of the forest stabbed to make the first white walker which was a nice touch.
Expected Jon to survive the Ice Dragon and then ride it to kill the NK, But was pleasantly surprised to see Arya.
I’ve not been a big fan of last two,three seasons, but this episode was one of the best things I’ve ever seen. Agree that they could have killed off a few more star characters but other than that, it was fantastic
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Epic absolutely bloody epic.
For those saying the ending was naff. We had an omnipotent being that can see everything past, present and future tell us this was going to happen.
I was going to put it in my death list but didn’t.
If he has steamrolled them and moved south the show was over. He would have taken everything from there to Kings Lansing and wiped the floor with Cersei. That was never going to be the way it ended.
For those saying the ending was naff. We had an omnipotent being that can see everything past, present and future tell us this was going to happen.
I was going to put it in my death list but didn’t.
If he has steamrolled them and moved south the show was over. He would have taken everything from there to Kings Lansing and wiped the floor with Cersei. That was never going to be the way it ended.
Plus literally every main character on the show bar Cersei would've been dead.
Almost a decade of story telling and the culmination of the white walker plot is that?
I think it probably always was going to be a let down, but fecking hell.
I think it probably always was going to be a let down, but fecking hell.
Great episode. But how easy was it to kill the Night King?
I thought it was a great episode, the director is a genius, every battle episode he has directed has been great. Soundtrack was amazing. Ending was a bit meh, We never learnt anything about the NK. I thought there would be a plot behind it all.
I do believe there will be some sort of explanation regarding Night King before the show ends . They won't let such a big character remain unexplained.
Speculation
Anyone think Mountain kills (or more likely is about to kill) Arya, and that gets Hound extra motivated?
I know he doesn't need any motivation, that's all he wants to do. It's just the way he lost all hope today, but 'woke up' for Arya.
I know he doesn't need any motivation, that's all he wants to do. It's just the way he lost all hope today, but 'woke up' for Arya.
Yes, as someone posted above, there has to be some connection with Bran and the night king, I don’t expect the show to end with a ‘and they lived happily ever after In peace’, there will be something else happening, expect a very dark ending which also makes sense because they don’t need three episodes to show battle at king’s landing, maybe two, I expect the finale to explain a lot of stuff regarding the WWs, or at least I hope
That too once he raised the dead it was game over. For him.
I doubt it. Since the books ended the TV show has consistently done really odd things which are always excused by the fans because of some belief that they'll pull it out of the bag later, and they never do.
I simply suspect that they just don't care about the Whitewalkers enough and think that they are a side plot that needs to be sewn up before the show can move South and tie up the Cersei storyline.
I don't really blame the show runners for how it has turned out, GRRM has written such an absolute mess that he's never going to finish it, but I think HBO (and quite a lot of the fans?) were always very reluctant to engage with the high fantasy elements of the show. My only real wish is that, if we don't subsequently get an explanation, they'd have tied up this plot line in the first season of the post-book era and focussed on the story they did want to tell, rather than wasting this many episodes telling one they didn't.
Well, they introduced and bigged up the night king on their own (I think GRRM said he's not in the books; and so far he is not), so they alone are responsible for the hollowness of the final confrontation. Him wanting to get to Bran was the premise for the attack of his army on Winterfell, and then there is zero interaction between them, no questions about their connection answered, zip.
Best battle ever? Could barely make anything out for most of it!
The library scene was really good. Overall a decent episode, but was pretty obvious 20minutes in that the WW were going to lose
The library scene was really good. Overall a decent episode, but was pretty obvious 20minutes in that the WW were going to lose
I really thought he would slay the dragon at the end and
Umm was quite obvious before season started. If they won then would have all the dragons and a bigger army to take on king landing. It was more of a question on how they will lose and who will survive the battle.
Wow. How incredibly shit was that?
I thought I needed military spec night vision goggles to watch the episode. Darker than a DC film.
Also, the NK being resistant to dragonfire made no f*cking sense whatsoever, just another scene written for the visuals alone.
So we have dragonglass (somehow connected either to dragonfire or at least normal volcanic fire) and valyrian steel (the secrets of which, lost along with valyria, likely involved dragonfire in the forging process), so the two known weapons able to destroy wights and walkers are working somehow because of their affinity to fire of natural or dragon origin.... but then the actual fecking thing does no harm, at all? Come on.
So we have dragonglass (somehow connected either to dragonfire or at least normal volcanic fire) and valyrian steel (the secrets of which, lost along with valyria, likely involved dragonfire in the forging process), so the two known weapons able to destroy wights and walkers are working somehow because of their affinity to fire of natural or dragon origin.... but then the actual fecking thing does no harm, at all? Come on.
Oh come on. If this isnt movie jon danny and the rest wouldnt stand in the front line nor in winterfell. They'd took the boat and sail to meereen and let the dead handle cersei
Ah, well we're definitely not getting an explanation then – or at least not one that makes any sense.
I'm not particularly sure we can trust GRRM. He's been involved with the show throughout and given direction to where things will go. For a plot point as huge as the others/whitewalkers (which is let's not forget, what both the show and books started with) I find it almost impossible to believe that GRRM didn't sketch it out. The plot lines of the show seem almost certainly to be taken from GRRM's vision, as he saw it at the time, even if the way the show gets there is necessarily different.
If and when he comes to writes the books he might change his mind and go somewhere different with it, but ultimately I think that's the problem: he's still writing the books. He might know where he wants the story to end (although I'm not sure he does), but he has spent 8 years trying to work out the steps to get half way there. I just think he's created too much of a mess for himself.