Television Game of Thrones (TV) • The watch has ended

Okay with how it ended. It was a super fun episode even if one had hugely different expectations and it would never be enough. The music and tension was built nicely and closure. It would have been a whole different of bat shit crazy if NK just shook hands with Bran but that’s a different story.
 
Raees said:
Did anyone spot that white walker acting shifty before it cut to the NK about to kill Bran. I think Arya could have been him.

Also pretty cool that Bran gave her that dagger and they foreshadowed her kill move when practicing against Brienne.
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Did he know at the time what she was going to do with it?

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His reaction looks odd in hindsight.
 
Ok, this might be a really stupid question but do white walkers even have any free will? I mean, if he tells them to stop and not move, not even blink, you can move freely among them or nope? In some situations it was like attack, stand by or stand down. Guess if you find them freely away from NK, their default mode is agro.
 
People are gonna be so disappointed with the season finale I can see it already :lol:
 
Three episodes seems too much to wrap up the Cersei/King’s Landing plotline. Maybe Jon and Dany go to war with each other after all?
 
That was a quality episode. The way the episode was shot was very good. The way it progressed the story was pretty average.

I can definitely see a lot of disappointment with the series finale already. Too much pressure on them right now.
 
Moonred said:
Okay with how it ended. It was a super fun episode even if one had hugely different expectations and it would never be enough. The music and tension was built nicely and closure. It would have been a whole different of bat shit crazy if NK just shook hands with Bran but that’s a different story.
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That would ve been kinda awesome but I'm not complaining. Never have I been on the edge of my seat as much as I was for this episode. Especially the build up to the full blown battle was crazy intense and well done.

My biggest beef was the insane plot armor so many characters had. It kinda feels like not enough of the main characters died in a way. Having said that.. I do agree the way the night king died was very anti climatic. The other night walkers should ve at least had something to do.
 
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As a spectacle, it was good. As everything else, it was hilariously terrible.

The only upside, IMO, is that all the gamersgate types probably collectively stroked out when you know who did you know what.
 
iKnowNothing said:
That was a quality episode. The way the episode was shot was very good. The way it progressed the story was pretty average.

I can definitely see a lot of disappointment with the series finale already. Too much pressure on them right now.
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It was a hell of an episode, some people will always find something to bitch about.
I can't recall the last time I was so tense watching a tv show
 
Btw, how the hell did Melisandre make it past the white walkers? Would have made more sense, albeit less dramatic, if she came from the other direction.
 
8 seasons we’ve been waiting for the White Walkers. And then they all die in the first battle. Honestly, I should’ve stopped watching this shit fest around season 4.
 
That was awesome. I was dreading it was going to end on a cliffhanger all episode!
 
I don't know what you cnuts expected....it was always going to come down something like that happening in order to save everyone.....they were getting overrun much like the United side we see week in week out. The only question was how would it happen. After show said they knew it would be Arya for the last three years.
 
The more I think about it the more it makes sense to steer back to the business as usual. It wasn't the white walkers and dragons that are the strength of the show..its the human intrigue- I am very curious on what note this is all going to end. Some of it was anti climatic yes.. But overall the undead played a small part in the story that was told over the past seven seasons.
 
simonhch said:
8 seasons we’ve been waiting for the White Walkers. And then they all die in the first battle. Honestly, I should’ve stopped watching this shit fest around season 4.
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The show has never been about the White walkers though. It was always about the Throne.
 
That was one insane episode seriously it was a finale without being a finale. At one point I thought it will all be over in this episode itself and the last 3 episodes would be full of cat videos. How will they top this episode now for the rest of the season.
 
They gave us 2 shit episodes to begin with, but I thought this one was absolutely brilliant. Perhaps second in my list after Hardhome. There were so many heart-stopping, jaw-dropping, nail-biiting scenes. I expected more of the big names to die, but they managed to make even the side characters' deaths emotional.

Arya jumping at the night king and getting the assassination through, with that background music and the timing of the scenes running in paralletl, was just awesome. I'd be happy if they ended the series right now, don't really give two shits about Cersei. Beating the Mountain is going to be anticlimatic, now.

Overall, very pleased with a rare and very well done GoT episode.
 
SalfordRed18 said:
I just feel like, that's not it in terms of WW.

Just have a hunch that, Bran is the night king. Or better yet, the night king is Bran. It's all in a cycle and Bran is key to this, hence why night king wants him dead, to break the cycle and live forever. Feel like it's still possible to create WW, and Bran is key to creating them, and it'll have something to do with the owls he warged into. Dunno, must give it thought. Just think we'll have a bitter sweet ending of whoever on the throne, but the white walkers are still alive and will rebuild it's army to attack again.
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Think you're spot on with this
 
Gonna be a nay sayer. Battle etc was great (though not that easy on the eye due to darkness) but ending wasn't. Series ' most beloved character kills the second biggest villain. Nothing noval about that. They didn't even try to be clever about it. Maybe gave Arya use her face swapping ability.

Overall I am glad they did dispose of Night king early since he was way overpowered and have never found white Walker stuff to be the most interesting aspect of the show.
 
Also once again they balked at killing some important characters. Sam surviving in battle makes zero sense (doubt GRRM would have it that way) and one of Brienne Jamie should have died.
 
What am I going to say to people who moan about GoT?

Not today.
 
What an episode. Was not expecting it to hit such heights.

Also felt like manutd vs psg in paris. Hope everything is not downhill from here for the remaining.
 
Edit:I Subreddit is based on books so am posting OP's now - hopefully that's ok

2 Reddit posts I liked but have now spoilered them after it was pointed out it was a book Reddit sub - though I don't think the posts have anything we don't/didn't already know

First saying storylines that are (un)resolved and forever will be:

Now that we're in the final season of the show and major characters are dying off, it seems safe to start believing that some plots that appear to be finished really are finished. Here are a few I'm thinking about:

  • The White Walkers' mission: We learned in Season 6 that the Children of the Forest created the Night King, and thereby the White Walkers and wights, to help with their war against the First Men. We learned in the previous episode that the Night King specifically wanted to kill the Three-Eyed Raven to erase the memory of humanity. It looks like that's all we're going to get about them - no attempt to subvert our expectations by humanizing them or somesuch.
  • Humanity unifying against the army of the dead: A lot of characters (but not all) belatedly set aside their political squabbles and joined forces to save the world, which has been a strong theme of the series. It seemed like that might have been the eventual finale of the entire show, but not quite. Now we're back to human-on-human violence.
  • The White Walkers' gruesome art: Right from the very first episode we saw the White Walkers arranging corpses in certain geometric patterns, which also appeared in the cave under Dragonstone. Was there a deeper mystery about the meaning of these patterns? Apparently not one we'll ever solve.
  • Dragonglass and Valyrian steel:These were needed for defeating the wights and White Walkers, and there have been several side plots about Valryian steel swords that have names and about the dragonglass forging industry. That's probably all finished now; the only special weapon powers still in play belong to a crossbow, a scorpion, and wildfire.
  • The Night's Watch: The Wall has fallen, the wildlings have come south, the White Walkers are defeated, and every named raven's watch has ended. So there doesn't seem to be any purpose left for them.
  • The Unsullied, the Dothraki, and Essos: Looks like the first two are completely wiped out and even the intro sequence hasn't referred to the third this season. (via u/silentnoisemakers76)
  • The Winterfell crypt: There have always been indications that something special would happen in the crypt (e.g. Bran's visions), and fan theories ran amok. Now that Winterfell has mostly fallen it doesn't seem like there will be a third battle there, so we've probably seen all the crypt action we're going to see. Maybe Bran's visions in the crypt were just metaphors leading up to his discovery about Jon's true parentage, and not a foreshadowing of some other specific thing that would physically occur there.
  • Weirwoods?: Bran has seemed to be able to connect to a weirwood tree and remotely view events through the eyes of another weirwood. But there aren't many weirwoods south of Winterfell and that's where the action seems to be moving, so we might not get any more data from weirwood.net.
  • R'hllor?: The Lord of Light's religion has always been portrayed as creepy (child sacrifice would be disturbing even if it were done for a successful purpose), while R'hllor is also the only god in the universe who actually seems to have visible powers. There have been theories about what might be behind all that. But all his named-character followers in Westeros have completed their missions and died, so it seems unlikely we'll ever learn more about the subject. (For that matter we may already be done with the Faith of the Seven, and it's unclear how much the surviving Greyjoys care about the Drowned God, while Arya took what she needed from the House of Black and White and left, so we might never revisit the entire theme of religion.) EDIT: u/ISamohThomasI points out that Varys had a vision in the flames, and so did Sandor "The Hound" Clegane. So maybe they'll go found a church after this is all over, but that seems like a long shot.
  • Azor Ahai??: This prophecy is the subject of a lot of speculation among book readers but is only briefly mentioned in the show, as the Prince (or Princess) That Was Promised. However, that story came from Melisandre and appeared to be about the person who would defeat the White Walkers, which is now done. So is it Arya? Or is the show just going to drop that plot?
hwww.reddit.com/r/asoiaf/comments/bikgf2/spoilers_extended_plots_that_are_now_resolved_or/

The second being/trying to justify why Arya was the only "logical" person to kill the Night King but ultimately it shouldn't have happened:

I'm talking about Arya, Catspaw, and the Night King's death.

First, (and I first made this post in the post-ep discussion if it looks like you're re-reading something) the religious factions all played a very specific role in killing the Night King.

  • The many faced god produced assassin Arya.

  • The Lord of Light revived Beric a million times over to save Arya. Mel told Arya point blank she's the one. Mel also confirmed that Beric was kept alive for this moment of saving Arya.

  • The Seven saved Sandor Clegane, who saved Arya. Same as above.

  • The drowned god via Theon, who "rose again harder and stronger," and protected Bran, bought Arya time.

  • The old gods via the 3ER (Bran) gave Arya Catspaw.
Second, Catspaw's history is deeply tied with the first two books and seasons. Its the reason why the war of the five kings started, and it led to Arya's arc and every single other characters arc, culminating to that moment. It bridges the politics of Westeros we loved early in the series/books with the WW. Bran has echoed this idea a few times, and this seems to be a theme of the season: everything these characters have done has made them who they are and led them to this moment. In that way, its as if everyone played a role in the events leading to killing the Night King. The preceding seasons were not for nothing - they hardened these characters and filtered out the weak. Catspaw punctuates that.

Obviously Littlefinger has been dead for a season, but his influence is here. He started the war, but he also gave Bran Catspaw in s7. Tyrion actually was the original owner of this dagger. I'm sure there are many other things I'm missing that brought about this moment from other characters.

I guess the great irony is that if it weren't for the Catspaw assassin, humanity wouldn't have been distracted from the threat up north with these wars since 1998, yet its the reason why the NK is dead.

https://www.reddit.com/r/asoiaf/comments/bijsff/spoilers_main_episode_3_couldnt_have_happened_any/

Edit: It's all the subreddit of the books. So don't go in this thread if you haven't read the books cos there will be book talk there.
 
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