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Man of Leisure said:
I still don’t understand why that knight who’s supposed to be a badass just didn’t let Ned go through to see his sister? At this point, he surely would have known all the Targs (Mad King and the Prince) were dead? For that matter, why didn’t Lyanna instruct the knight to let her brother through if/when Ned gets there? Doesn’t really make any sense. Also didn’t the Mad King have her father and older brother burned alive? So is she considered a traitor to the Stark family by hooking up with the son of her father and brother’s killer?
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They're the Kingsguard. If they knew Aerys and Rhaegar were dead then Baby Jon was the king and they weren't gonna let him be taken.

They were under Targaryen command so Lyanna probably had no sway with them.

The story that most common folk know or believe is that Rhaegar abducted Lyanna so she isn't considered a traitor.
 
kps88 said:
If it was weird for us, imagine how the actor playing Gendry must have felt.
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It’s ironic because he got famous in a show that had actual underage children performing in far more explicit sexual scenes.
 
sport2793 said:
NK pretty much has the manpower of Soviet Russia and best part is that he doesn't have to shoot deserters. Why wait for a long time when it could be done in a day...
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Yeah you're right. Just throw loads of them on Winterfell. :)
 
I'm a bit pissed with how they're going to avoid using dragons in the battle by protecting Bran. Who cares if he dies, and you have 2 of them anyway.
 
Donut said:
I'm a bit pissed with how they're going to avoid using dragons in the battle by protecting Bran. Who cares if he dies, and you have 2 of them anyway.
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Surely makes sense to have at least one of them in the battle considering fire kills wights...
 
Couple of show death predictions

Davos dies protecting the girl in the crypt

Jaime dies (at some point in the show, not necessarily next episode) protecting Danny from death. He then lives as folklore as the greatest Knight because of what he did.

Two scenes make me think this :

One back when Joffery went through the book of Knights with Jaime and he talked about the pages and pages the great knights had. And then he went to Jaimes page and said something like "what's this, kingslayer only has half a page?" Jaime then just said "there's a lot of time to change that"



Also in the last episode why they showed the scene where Jaime goes To tiryon "you have a lot of faith in your queen" and Tiryon replied "she's your queen now too".

Jaime will feel duty to protect her and he will clear his name as legend in the process.
 
VP89 said:
Couple of show death predictions

Davos dies protecting the girl in the crypt

Jaime dies (at some point in the show, not necessarily next episode) protecting Danny from death. He then lives as folklore as the greatest Knight because of what he did.

Two scenes make me think this :

One back when Joffery went through the book of Knights with Jaime and he talked about the pages and pages the great knights had. And then he went to Jaimes page and said something like "what's this, kingslayer only has half a page?" Jaime then just said "there's a lot of time to change that"



Also in the last episode why they showed the scene where Jaime goes To tiryon "you have a lot of faith in your queen" and Tiryon replied "she's your queen now too".

Jaime will feel duty to protect her and he will clear his name as legend in the process.
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Yeah they both sound very plausible.
 
SalfordRed18 said:
Skins.
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RochaRoja said:
Joe Dempsey wasn’t but the majority of the main cast were under 18 when filming the first season. Kaya Scodelario was 14.
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Kaya wasn't a main cast member till season 3.

Quick Google search looks as if they were all 18 or just about to turn 18 for each respective generation.
 
Man of Leisure said:
I still don’t understand why that knight who’s supposed to be a badass just didn’t let Ned go through to see his sister? At this point, he surely would have known all the Targs (Mad King and the Prince) were dead? For that matter, why didn’t Lyanna instruct the knight to let her brother through if/when Ned gets there? Doesn’t really make any sense. Also didn’t the Mad King have her father and older brother burned alive? So is she considered a traitor to the Stark family by hooking up with the son of her father and brother’s killer?
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They were King's guard who swore their life to protect the king. Surrendering to his enemies/killers would've meant dishonouring themselves, I guess their plan would've been to take the Baby into exile and join up with Viserys and Dany - or die trying.
Everyone thought Rhaegar took Lyanna by force - hence her brother confronting Aerys II, getting killed together with his father and the whole rebellion kicking off. Ned is the only big player who knew that she actually went along with him voluntarily and he just seems to mourn her loss.
 
I'll go with:

Greyworm
Theon
Beric
Edd
Brienne - Can't help but think the NK will resurrect her & either Jamie or Tormund will end up having to kill her (again).
Some form of Bran

Also, a shed load of people in the Crypt. Send all the defenceless into a crypt with loads of dead bodies surrounding them... sounds like a great plan.
 
I’m on S02 E08 on my rewatch-whilst-concurrently-watching-the-latest-episodes clusterfeck and it’s still so annoying how Snow’s ‘honour’/naivety continually goes unpunished (this plot armour extends to the Stark family - bar Ned - at large, to be honest). He’s now currently a hostage of the Wildlings after failing to kill Ygritte when the chance presented itself, an even then the Wildlings, for reasons totally unreasonable, fail to kill him when they capture him. These sort of unrealistic (for the setting) scenarios continually benefit the Starks/Snow and they continually evade dangerous episodes. It’s ridiculous.
 
What's the point with spoilers on speculations for the death pool?

I say a maximum of 1 out of Daenerys, Jon, and Tyrion will survive the whole show.
 
SalfordRed18 said:
Kaya wasn't a main cast member till season 3.

Quick Google search looks as if they were all 18 or just about to turn 18 for each respective generation.
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16 is the age that matters, isn't it? Below that would get a bit dodgy legally.

Personally, anyone under 25 feels strange to see doing sex stuff on telly.
 
Buchan said:
I’m on S02 E08 on my rewatch-whilst-concurrently-watching-the-latest-episodes clusterfeck and it’s still so annoying how Snow’s ‘honour’/naivety continually goes unpunished (this plot armour extends to the Stark family - bar Ned - at large, to be honest). He’s now currently a hostage of the Wildlings after failing to kill Ygritte when the chance presented itself, an even then the Wildlings, for reasons totally unreasonable, fail to kill him when they capture him. These sort of unrealistic (for the setting) scenarios continually benefit the Starks/Snow and they continually evade dangerous episodes. It’s ridiculous.
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Unpublished? He literally died at one point.

And by unpublished I mean unpunished.
 
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They've been beaten, kidnapped, lost their home, forced to watch loved ones brutally killed, raped, tortured, actually killed, but at least they've not been punished.
 
Watching the wall coming down again scene. It is so visually awesome. I know people laugh at the NK riding the dragon, but everything else makes it look visually scary. Im sure it must be stated somewhere, but would love to know the budgets for the three eps (moneytrain, suicide squad ep and that ep).

It must be so much easier to right unrealistic stuff as you arent bogged down by budget. BUt at the same time, those talking about GRRM, hes clearly having a shit time trying to progress and write things to make it make sense (and isnt bogged down by budget and time constraints to please a network). A lot of people make fun of the directors of GoT (and some things are a bit silly, eg some of the dialogue, dorne, sons of harpys...) but overall I give them so much props for basically making mini movies in relatively short amount of time, amongst a very popular epic fantasy series.
 
Based on some rough exposition:

Telegraphed danger ahead:
Greyworm, Theon, Brienne, eye patch, a dragon, Davos, Tormund

Interesting and thus unlikely:
Jon, Bran, Tyrion, Jamie, Sam, Sansa

Stupid, so very possible:
Arya, Hound, Gendry

No chance:
Ms Greyworm, Jon, Dany, Drogon, Cersei, Euron, Sansa, Bron, Tyrion, Ice King
 
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GhastlyHun said:
What's the point with spoilers on speculations for the death pool?

I say a maximum of 1 out of Daenerys, Jon, and Tyrion will survive the whole show.
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I don't really get that either. A friend of mine got angry at me for
saying the people in the crypts will get mauled by raised Stark ancestors
it's just a guess. I know as much as he does.
 
I can't see Jaime going. Not unless Bronn makes it down in time to have a final scene with him.

Those that will die will likely be the ones who's story is at an end. Varys is an interesting one on that front, he's got nothing left to do but I don't think he's had his final farewell unless it happens during the next ep. The likes of Brienne, Greyworm, Beric and others that have been mentioned are all pretty much done story wise. The latter especially if the prince that was promised is revealed, or Mel comes and takes over.

Speaking of which, since Melisandre is still yet to turn up, a sacrificial death to save them for a retreat or something on the cards?
 
GhastlyHun said:
What's the point with spoilers on speculations for the death pool?

I say a maximum of 1 out of Daenerys, Jon, and Tyrion will survive the whole show.
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I suppose if someone read something that turned out to be true, they would have half expected it? Like it wouldn't be as huge of a shock since they'll know of that possible event, and people would rather something happened they didn't expect at all. I imagine GOT purists won't want to read something that would make too much sense for it to not happen, ruining their experience of watching a new episode as they'll be always thinking of it.

I wouldn't say I'm that kind of person but I can sort of understand it.
 
These spoiler tags are bizarre, obviously we are all just speculating and it's a given that main characters will die this season. Surely no gets upset reading these? It would be like someone telling you "I think United will win 2-0" and then you say to them tomorrow "Cheers for ruining the game for me last night"
 
SalfordRed18 said:
Kaya wasn't a main cast member till season 3.

Quick Google search looks as if they were all 18 or just about to turn 18 for each respective generation.
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She wasn’t a main cast member but still appeared in many highly sexualised scenes. When the show was filmed in 2006, most of the cast were 17.
 
SteveTheRed said:
These spoiler tags are bizarre, obviously we are all just speculating and it's a given that main characters will die this season. Surely no gets upset reading these? It would be like someone telling you "I think United will win 2-0" and then you say to them tomorrow "Cheers for ruining the game for me last night"
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The point became about people coming in here with knowledge of leaks and spoilers and posting them as "speculation".

There's no way to control that, hence the spoiler rule. As always a few sad cases ruin things for everyone.
 
duffer said:
16 is the age that matters, isn't it? Below that would get a bit dodgy legally.

Personally, anyone under 25 feels strange to see doing sex stuff on telly.
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Depends on the territory.

I might be wrong, but I think while the age of consent in the UK is 16, there are still limitations on sexual content in media with under 18s.

Not that anything in Skins was actually porn but there’s definitely a grey area in the 16-18 age group.
 
RochaRoja said:
She wasn’t a main cast member but still appeared in many highly sexualised scenes. When the show was filmed in 2006, most of the cast were 17.
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What highly sexualised scenes are you talking about? I barely remember her during the first generation, she only really was properly in the show during the 2nd generation which were seasons 3 and 4?
 
I'd be astonished if either Bronn or Meliasndre appear at Winterfell in the middle of a siege by the undead. I believe they'll make an appearance later in some King's Landing related stuff. I'm guessing Meliansdre might bring back an army for Dany to replenish her depleted forces to take on Cersei (Dario perhaps?). I guess a lot depends on what happens if the show decides to make the white walkers the last battle before the shows end or if it ends with the golden company and Cersei. In terms of next episode, Grey worm and his girlfriend are almost certainties.
 
Irwin99 said:
I'd be astonished if either Bronn or Meliasndre appear at Winterfell in the middle of a siege by the undead. I believe they'll make an appearance later in some King's Landing related stuff. I'm guessing Meliansdre might bring back an army for Dany to replenish her depleted forces to take on Cersei (Dario perhaps?). I guess a lot depends on what happens if the show decides to make the white walkers the last battle before the shows end or if it ends with the golden company and Cersei. In terms of next episode, Grey worm and his girlfriend are almost certainties.
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There's got to be a surprise death outside of the prominent characters that basically said goodbye to their story arcs last episode and those that are almost certainly in for the end game.

I'm going with Bronn, who could show up and suddenly get pulled into the action. Melisandre needs to reunite with Arya and this doesn't seem like the time for it, so I'm guessing she'll pop up in E4. Won't rule out a shock appearance from her to save some peeps, though.
 
I wonder if John Snow can be killed again or will the magic that brought him back to life continue to do so - just like your cool dude with the eye patch?
 
balaks said:
I wonder if John Snow can be killed again or will the magic that brought him back to life continue to do so - just like your cool dude with the eye patch?
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There needs to be a priest/priestess there to say the floobadyfloop in other to resurrect them.
 
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