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ned stark is a dumbass. him and his family go around saying winter is coming all the time but they dont believe the guy who actually says he saw it.

I think you missed the point, he didn't believe him about white walkers. Tyrion for example has lived through 8 or 9 winters so I'd imagine many more have too. Only Ned's youngest haven't seen winters, Robb, Theon maybe even Sansa have lived through one, or at least been born during. The current summer was only 10 years. That guy was executed for running from the Nights Watch and breaking his vows.

Ned is indeed an idiot but on this one particular decision he was right.
 
As I said, I can still forgive most of that as it lead to some good fun stuff.

Why that one NK was walking about with all the Wights he turned but then one random one however?

Because it's a scout from the main host. The fleet that was lurking around was doing it's scouting job, so the NK put his own wight to be his eyes if something go awry.

Hence, the backup later was sent by NK. If he didn't put his wight, he might be dumb.
 
Because it's a scout from the main host. The fleet that was lurking around was doing it's scouting job, so the NK put his own wight to be his eyes if something go awry.

Hence, the backup later was sent by NK. If he didn't put his wight, he might be dumb.

Is this confirmed? or an assumption to fit the narrative?
Serious question.

I dunno, it came off weirdly to me. The backup only came cos the people were stupid and let him scream out (whilst it was pinned down)
I need to watch that season again anyway.
 
Is this confirmed? or an assumption to fit the narrative?
Serious question.

I dunno, it came off weirdly to me. The backup only came cos the people were stupid and let him scream out (whilst it was pinned down)
I need to watch that season again anyway.

It's a theory, but a strong one and very logical too. I tend to accept that idea to believe the high level of intelligence the NK posses.

Yes it does scream to get help, but that should be acceptable too. The fact that was the first time the wights showcased its defense mechanism like that. So Jon and others should not be expecting that at all. At that moment, they finally knew.

Made so much sense to me.
 
It's a theory, but a strong one and very logical too. I tend to accept that idea to believe the high level of intelligence the NK posses.

Yes it does scream to get help, but that should be acceptable too. The fact that was the first time the wights showcased its defense mechanism like that. So Jon and others should not be expecting that at all. At that moment, they finally knew.

Made so much sense to me.

Thats a fair theory and explanation of the situation. With that in mind, I really do need to watch the episode and season again before the new one.
 
then need ought to shut up about winter coming. I get normal people not believing the deserter but if you're going to constantly bleat on about winter then maybe see if there was something to the guys claims

It's their house slogan. They're supposed to go around saying it. What I don't get is what they go around saying when it already is winter?
 
It's their house slogan. They're supposed to go around saying it. What I don't get is what they go around saying when it already is winter?

Then why dont they at least send someone to check out the reports if they believe it? This whole thing could have been prevented and we would only have one season.
 
Also Catelyn Stark is the dumbest character. She gets her husband beheaded by meddling in things. Leaves her young kid who has just been crippled and lost the ability to walk, and his younger brother, in charge of the whole north, for no real reason. Then she screws up the war for Rob Stark by meddling in things, then ends up getting him and herself killed due to her meddling. She even nearly killed Jon Snow by cursing him or something when he was a baby. Everything bad that happens is basically her fault.
 
Also Catelyn Stark is the dumbest character. She gets her husband beheaded by meddling in things. Leaves her young kid who has just been crippled and lost the ability to walk, and his younger brother, in charge of the whole north, for no real reason. Then she screws up the war for Rob Stark by meddling in things, then ends up getting him and herself killed due to her meddling. She even nearly killed Jon Snow by cursing him or something when he was a baby. Everything bad that happens is basically her fault.

But in the books...
 
Also Catelyn Stark is the dumbest character. She gets her husband beheaded by meddling in things. Leaves her young kid who has just been crippled and lost the ability to walk, and his younger brother, in charge of the whole north, for no real reason. Then she screws up the war for Rob Stark by meddling in things, then ends up getting him and herself killed due to her meddling. She even nearly killed Jon Snow by cursing him or something when he was a baby. Everything bad that happens is basically her fault.

Shes very dumb but so is Jon Snow. I just watched the episode where Rickon dies again and Jon's stupidity ought to have gotten him and his whole army slaughtered. He fell for Ramsey's trick right after Sansa told him not to.

Aryan and Sansa are the only two people who were raised in that family that arent complete morons.
 
They should have left Jon dead. The moment he woke up was the moment GOT started major fan service.
 
Shes very dumb but so is Jon Snow. I just watched the episode where Rickon dies again and Jon's stupidity ought to have gotten him and his whole army slaughtered. He fell for Ramsey's trick right after Sansa told him not to.

Aryan and Sansa are the only two people who were raised in that family that arent complete morons.
Well, Arya is a homeless sociopath bailed out multiple times by the Faceless Men and the Hound, and Sansa let herself get abused by all the worst people in Westeros until they’d mostly killed each other off.

Wouldn’t classify either as particularly bright.
 
Then why dont they at least send someone to check out the reports if they believe it? This whole thing could have been prevented and we would only have one season.

Why didn't the guy who ran off just say he had come to Winterfell to report what he'd seen and wasn't actually deserting? I didn't get this at the time as uncle Benji then crops up at Winterfell anyway for no reason other than because he felt like paying a visit, so clearly it's not an automatic beheading to just turn up there.
 
They should have left Jon dead. The moment he woke up was the moment GOT started major fan service.
If they had actually done something with his arc then it may have been ok, maybe? Beric talks about how he loses a part of himself every time he is brought back, and Jon was dead for a couple of days after a vicious betrayal, yet one hanging and a ponytail later and he's still the same moody sod.
 
Well, Arya is a homeless sociopath bailed out multiple times by the Faceless Men and the Hound, and Sansa let herself get abused by all the worst people in Westeros until they’d mostly killed each other off.

Wouldn’t classify either as particularly bright.

I dont think she is a sociopath. Shes not just killing indiscriminately. Shes learned some basic survival skills and has a vendetta. That's enough to be one of the smarter Starks.

Sansa was basically fed lies her entire life until she got to Kings Landing and despite having very limited control of her own destiny shes managed to stay alive.
 
Shes very dumb but so is Jon Snow. I just watched the episode where Rickon dies again and Jon's stupidity ought to have gotten him and his whole army slaughtered. He fell for Ramsey's trick right after Sansa told him not to.

Aryan and Sansa are the only two people who were raised in that family that arent complete morons.

Yeah it had started to get very silly by that point though. All this fuss about the wall for 5 seasons and then Stanis and his whole army just randomly turn up on the other side of it without anyone even noticing, as if it's no bother at all.
 
Yeah it had started to get very silly by that point though. All this fuss about the wall for 5 seasons and then Stanis and his whole army just randomly turn up on the other side of it without anyone even noticing, as if it's no bother at all.

Stannis and his army sailed from Essos, around the wall, and docked at Eastwatch by the Sea, and then rode to Castle Black's vicinity. There are only three manned castles left along the wall so the only persons who would have known about Stannis where the night's watch at EbtS.
 
Stannis and his army sailed from Essos, around the wall, and docked at Eastwatch by the Sea, and then rode to Castle Black's vicinity. There are only three manned castles left along the wall so the only persons who would have known about Stannis where the night's watch at EbtS.

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Stannis and his army sailed from Essos, around the wall, and docked at Eastwatch by the Sea, and then rode to Castle Black's vicinity. There are only three manned castles left along the wall so the only persons who would have known about Stannis where the night's watch at EbtS.

Yeah, so seems like the wall is quite pointless really. You can just walk around the outside of it with your entire army
 
Almost two months to go until it starts up again and no new trailer still.

I'm getting Fyre Festival vibes.
 
The wall goes along the entire landmass. You can't walk round it.

No but you can just get in a boat for 2 minutes. The wildlings spent ages building an army to attack the wall. They even had a load of boats they could have used. Instead they charged at the wall and then am army of people just came around the wall to beat them up.

Maybe they just really like completing obstacle courses.
 
No but you can just get in a boat for 2 minutes. The wildlings spent ages building an army to attack the wall. They even had a load of boats they could have used. Instead they charged at the wall and then am army of people just came around the wall to beat them up.

Maybe they just really like completing obstacle courses.

Yeah, the idea that the wildlings wouldn't build boats is a bit dumb to be fair.
 
No but you can just get in a boat for 2 minutes. The wildlings spent ages building an army to attack the wall. They even had a load of boats they could have used. Instead they charged at the wall and then am army of people just came around the wall to beat them up.

Maybe they just really like completing obstacle courses.
The Wildings had boats? The ones shown at Hardhome were borrowed from Stanis I thought, actually pretty sure of it. Not sure the Wildlings had boat access or the ability to build them. That’s what I was going off of.