Bran's behavior is definitely suspicious. Makes you wonder if the NK can warg into Bran through that mark.
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Well it could also be the case that the NK and his army still hasnt technically reached the wall. Well he might pass through anyway when he reaches it. People are thinking the wall might stop them but if magic is already broken, then no one will know the WW can pass through until they actually reach the wall. I mentioned this before but I think thats going to be the cliffhanger for the season finale - the WW taking a step past the wall.
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But if thats the case shouldnt Bran have stayed beyond the wall and just sent Meera or does Bran not know that by coming past the wall the magic is now broken?
All assumption. Could easily be said that hes had so much shit happening in his head from the past, present and future, he didnt realise until he went passed the wall and it became relevant, brought to the forefront in his mind. Hence why hes now worried about the WW and warging into ravens to see where they are.
Imagine that? Im kinda hoping its a bit clear that Bran can warg into living, and NK can warg into dead (or just control dead). Basically like opposites.
Always assumed
they would bring the wall down. But now, I can see it just being a hole big enough to fit a dragon and him and his army lol. But seeing the wall coming crashing down would be such an epic moment for TV and this series.
You know. The Irish Guy.The night king? A top four character? He's never even spoken!
Edit: Tyrone
I agree. The show would have been better if they were not an issue.
If thats the case Snow should lineup Westeros's 300 best fighters just outside that hole and try and defend that wall.
Will the night king be able to control the mountain? Did he actually die?
If three eyes raven can revive the dead? Then it suggests that the NK could indeed be Bran..
That the wolf it's referring to means Sansa, and that we can kill her off. Never liked her, never will.
When did the mountain die?
But she isnt going to Kings Landing is she?No one is going to kill her in Winterfell. I think its pretty straightforward who it refers to - Dany and Snow.
I don't think he did. He was poisoned by Oberyn and then Qyburn healed him sortof. He may be dead and revived, only Qyburn knows but I doubt Qyburn can revive the dead. Would be an interesting subplot if he was dead though.
Please guys again, don't even mention the leaks in the spoilers too. Just had to infract another guy for that.
Firstly I dont think he died either. Thats why I was surprised. But even if he did die, how will the NK control him? He isnt a wight.
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Not that really straightforward since Jon isn't a wolf, he's a Targ (dragon). Or at least half one.
He's the dragon and the wolf in one. Fire and ice.
He's the dragon and the wolf in one. Fire and ice.
I thought the night king could control pretty much assume control of all dead people (which is why they need to burn bodies?).
I always kinda assumed the mountain died and Qyburn zombiefied him with science.
Sorry, I meant to double tag. Good point, even if he is dead, he hasn't been touched by a WW.
So the Mountain IF he was revived is different from Jon being revived? Dont you have to die and stay dead for the NK to revive and control you?
I'd say Jon was brought back from the dead and is alive. The mountain is not the mountain anymore, it's his dead body re-animated that does whatever Qyburn tells it to do.
Or do you have to be killed by the undead army to become one of them, similar to what happened at Hardhome? Otherwise, what's stopping the Night King raising every single corpse in Westeros at any given time and just running amok?
So like Frankenstein? I dont think so. There have been scenes where Qyburn hasnt been there but the Mountain has. He surely at least needs to be in the vicinity to control him if thats the case.
You dont HAVE to be killed by the undead army to become one of them. Any person dead can be revived into a wight. And to revive the dead in Westeros, the NK has to reach that area to revive them. Dont think he can sit beyond the wall and revive the dead in Kings Landing. Also thats the whole reason Jon wants to stop them at the wall. If he starts moving down into Westeros, then his army gets bigger cause he can keep reviving the dead along the way.
What you're saying makes perfect sense, but we've not had that explained to us in the show yet. It's remarkable that, even after seven seasons now, we still don't know a whole lot about the Night King and his army.
Maybe that's intentional on Martin's/the showrunners' part to keep them mystical.
Yep, that's my take on it. Of course I'm probably wrong but in my mind Qyburn told him "do whatever I say or whatever Cersei says".
There does not seem to be any of the Mountain left. It'll be interesting to see "zombie" mountain's reaction if he ever meets the Hound again.
Isnt the Hound also on the way to Kings Landing with the rest to show Cersei the wight they caught?
Or they're making it up as they go along!
I think its probably this. It hasnt been fully defined and tbf, they can be quite loose with it to suit their needs. But from what weve seen, wights are normally those who are killed by other wights / ww so far. (Unless ive missed something so obvious).
But agreed, theyve kept it mystical so maybe that we as viewers can decide. Ill be happy if its not ever explained though.
I hope so! I need a hound/mountain reunion almost as much as a Arya/Mountain reunion!
Could also be due to budget constraints that they only show big aspects of the WW until this season.
None of these theories on the wights explain the one that attacked Jon and Mormont.
Most likely.
Most likely.
I think there, the theory is that they were killed by the WW north of the wall and then were able to pass through the wall because the NW took them through the gate. I also get confused by this and think the show have sort of changed the rules regarding this as we've gone along.
Yes but if they were killed by the WW and not the wights then wouldnt they have been revived immediately? So how did they pass through the wall still dead but turn once they were only inside Castle Black? And if they were killed by the wights, then there is no way for them to turn.
Wow nearly Friday and no leaked finale? Those hackers have given up.
It's definitely the case that they are hauling ass through the story this season. It's so weird to me, as much as I enjoy it, they really could have found another season at the bare minimum. It's almost like, now that they've went past the books, they need to quickly get it finished by some deadline. This leads to an issue that the show now has that the books never will, i.e plots and things that have been build up to have to be resolved in some way. George RR Martin can just keep adding more plots, more intrigue, more characters, etc, forever, assuming he ever stops shagging and partying to finish those books.
Plus, it's obvious that they want Dany and Jon to have the most incredibly beautiful inbred children ever born.
Plus, it's obvious that they want Dany and Jon to have the most incredibly beautiful inbred children ever born.
How many of you watched Lost? In that show, they never actually explained anything i.e. they never sped it up and moved the story along like what is happening in this series now. Instead they focused on character development right up until the end. Needless to say, it was fecking horrific waiting for answers but never getting any.
Having said that, GoT could have still finished telling the story better than they have so far (probably still a bit of time to fix that). Overall, they never paced the seasons correctly and that can be due to many reasons. However, if it was a choice between not really ever finishing the story or finishing it at a fast pace, I'd choose the latter every time.
Having said that, GoT could have still finished telling the story better than they have so far (probably still a bit of time to fix that). Overall, they never paced the seasons correctly and that can be due to many reasons. However, if it was a choice between not really ever finishing the story or finishing it at a fast pace, I'd choose the latter every time.
I'm sure i'm wrong, just hoping!
My speculation for deaths of the last episode of this season. I haven't read any leaks, theories, or watched the trailer.
Cersei - I think her storyline has nowhere to go. I expect next season to be only about WW, and I can't see her joining with the rest against them. Probably killed by Jamie (or maybe Arya).
Littlefinger - Similar to above. Will be killed by Arya, with the help of Sansa, followed by a sisterly embrace.
The Mountain - Killed by the Hound. It's coming, surely...
Qyburn - I suppose he's a minor character anyway.
Littlefinger - Similar to above. Will be killed by Arya, with the help of Sansa, followed by a sisterly embrace.
The Mountain - Killed by the Hound. It's coming, surely...
Qyburn - I suppose he's a minor character anyway.
The WW war alone cant go on for the rest of next season. Thats way too much time to deal with just one enemy. Dont think any of the ones you mentioned will die except LF.
We'll see. You might be right and it happens early next season instead. But 6 episodes is not a lot and if they give us some flashbacks and WW origin or something it can be over very quickly.