Television Game of Thrones (TV) • The watch has ended
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Have we ever been told that any point in the show, that the Walkers were going to walk around the wall with winter having arrived and the seas getting frozen ? I'm asking this because I still try to understand the idea behind Jon's stupid expedition north of the wall. Has there been hint on how the wall was not going to stop the Night King anyway so Jon had to prove to everyone that the threat is real by bringing a wight ?
TWD was good in the first season until the final episode. It just kinda ...went to shit and showed what the series will become thereafter (especially with the shitshow that was s2).
Lost s1 was excellent and gripping. s2 then became the Jack, Kate and Sawyer show and went away from what made it intriguing. I thought it then got better after but it seemed the writers tried to change their initial outcome cos fans predicted correctly the theories behind the island, etc.
GoT for 90% has been fantastic. S5 was bleh but still had a great episode and some great moments. This season has had some fantastic moments even if at times it doesnt make sense. But entertaining throughout.
When did it ever matter? I dont remember anybody else being bitten and turning (like in TWD). Weve seen Hound get bitten (but he should be fine unless something starts to happen to him in the next episode).
Lost s1 was excellent and gripping. s2 then became the Jack, Kate and Sawyer show and went away from what made it intriguing. I thought it then got better after but it seemed the writers tried to change their initial outcome cos fans predicted correctly the theories behind the island, etc.
GoT for 90% has been fantastic. S5 was bleh but still had a great episode and some great moments. This season has had some fantastic moments even if at times it doesnt make sense. But entertaining throughout.
When did it ever matter? I dont remember anybody else being bitten and turning (like in TWD). Weve seen Hound get bitten (but he should be fine unless something starts to happen to him in the next episode).
There was a long winter previously thats been mentioned. Though im not sure if Jon knows about the story and theres previous of this happening? My assumption was this is what happened, hence why he needed as many soliders as possible (hence the idea of peace between all those warring as this is the biggest war and everything else is smalltime compared).
But yeah, I may just be guessing but I cant fully remember it being said what they can do once winter fully arrives.
weight hound vs zombie mountain? 
I'm probably just making generic zombie assumptions. Didn't help that when the Hound got bitten it seemed like one of those classic zombie movie moments.
They also had the scene where Dany gave that lingering look at Jon Snow's wounds. I thought that was alluding to the same concern. With hindsight, maybe it was supposed to be her perving over his shredded abs?
no, those were his wounds from when he was killed. She sort-of suspects based on what Davos said previously that he died and was brought to life, so those wounds likely serve as proof to her.
Why isn't Daenerys hellbent on revenge towards the Starks as she is the Lannisters? The Starks led Robert's rebellion just as much as House Lannister.
Seems rather odd and a rather contrived omission.
Seems rather odd and a rather contrived omission.
They reminded her of her needs.
weight hound vs zombie mountain?
Imagine if that happens
Given she said not to judge her by her dads actions, would be weird going after Stark kids then (as nobody during the rebellion is still alive, right?)
As Spanner said, I think it was just confirmation based on what Davos said. She saw all the wounds and hes still here (meaning he must have died and come back).
I had no idea what game of thrones was until last week when I watched all 7 seasons. Holy crap, how have I gone so long without watching this?
One question: are seasons 6&7 based on the books? If not, who's coming up with the ideas for them and season 8 (I know that there are still two books that aren't released and next season will be the last).
One question: are seasons 6&7 based on the books? If not, who's coming up with the ideas for them and season 8 (I know that there are still two books that aren't released and next season will be the last).
The show pretty much becomes unrelated to the books from parts of season five onwards. The creators write it themselves with some help from the author.
I think my prediction for the finale is
Daeny returns to warm, sunny Dragonstone where she can expect 6-8" of snow.
Have a feeling Bran will play a big part in the next couple of episodes (including next season, that is)
Firstly none of the Starks killed her family members. A Lannister killed her father and a Baratheon killed her brother. Also she said in the meeting with Jon Snow episode not to judge her for her father's mistakes. And Jon said he wasnt responsible for a promise his forefathers made. Also this is another reason why Dany isnt like Cersei, contrary to what some people think here.
Hope so, he's been a pretty useless character so far this season despite his powers.
Have a feeling Bran will play a big part in the next couple of episodes (including next season, that is)
Wait are you seriously trying to compare Lost and GOT?
Because what she's doing isn't really for revenge, it's just to take her rightful place on the throne. She'd be doing the same things even if the Queen was from an unrelated house. The Starks and Lannisters rebelled because the king was murdering members of their families and was going to burn the whole city down if nobody stopped him, I think she can see that they had reasonable grounds for doing what they did
See, this is part which grates on me with Daenerys and her self-entitlement. Surely the Mad King's descendants stole the throne from somebody themselves? What makes her a more deserving heir than say Cersei's successor? At what point does Daenerys lose her 'right'?
(As an aside, yes, it's a fantasy show but I'm a republican by nature and can't understand the notion of 'rulers'.)
When she dies or when she finds out that Jon is actually in line to succeed before her
Lost was nowhere near Game of Thrones. Not even close.
I have my own gripes with Game of Thrones and felt it didn't completely live up to the standards it set early on, but it's still a terrific show and miles better than the likes of Lost.
I have my own gripes with Game of Thrones and felt it didn't completely live up to the standards it set early on, but it's still a terrific show and miles better than the likes of Lost.
Well, Sansa, Jon and Danerys barely do any acting either.The acting from Arya when she's talking about shooting arrows was fecking atrocious.
And how did that uncle Ben G keep popping up everywhere
Jon is a feck tonne better than he was in the first few seasons to be fair. He's actually pretty believable as a badass now. He used to come across as an awkward wimpy badly acted teenager.
Not the first time I've been freaked out by the capacity of people on here to watch mind-blowing amounts of television in a very short space of time. Presumably you also got caught up in the whole football season starting thing and watched a good bit of that too. How did you find time for anything else? Like washing yourself? Or eating? Did you remember to roll over every now and then to prevent pressure sores?
The Targaryens ruled Westeros for like 300 years before Robert's rebellion so if you buy into the idea of monarchy and lineage and stuff (which everyone apparently does in Westeros) she has got a pretty fair shout at being the rightful ruler. But you're right, none of it really makes sense to us who live in and believe in democratic republics.
No GoT is infinitely better IMO. However, there are similarities as well. The point I was trying to convey is Lost stuck to the same formula throughout the whole show (at least I think it did) and it suffered as a result. While GoT may have sped up significantly this season (and probably next), I'm at least happy we will get a proper ending.
Maybe I'm not remembering Lost properly - it was a while ago. However, I do remember the disappointment in how questions were never answered.
It was a good show but it was just a clusterfeck from beginning to end. So many characters and it kept growing, then they were trying to somehow connect everyone to everything and it just crazily got out of hand. Most of the storylines and flashbacks for characters were so pointless and boring. Locke was the only "interesting" character on that show.
Ya, but their winning formula was character development and, as you say, it just got out of hand. I think the writers strike during season 4 was a real feck up and the beginning of the end.
Do we have an idea of when the next season will be? 2018 or 2019?
Filming is starting in October. Right now I think its slated towards end of next year. But Im hoping it will be sooner.
In Lost, they failed at character development. All shit characters except for Locke of course. Especially the googly eyed Gollum bastard.
I binged on the show recently, having ignored it for years, but I do think a mistake was made in the casting of Jon and Robb. The actor who played Robb had a greater range and might have done a better job in the later seasons.
An example was the relationship between Jon and Dany. It seems that the audience were supposed to intuit that beneath the 'all business' interactions between the two characters an emotional bond was being formed. But neither of the actors was up to the task of conveying this, so viewers were unprepared for their feelings for each other revealed in the last episode.
Really? If anything I'd argue a much fairer criticism of the Jon/Dany love angle was that they were revealing it with the subtlety of a sledge hammer. I'm amazed anyone could have watched the last few episodes and thought that it came from nowhere at the end of the last episode.
Hoping to see Melisandre at some point next episode and definitely hoping if the the fecker isn't writing books, that GRRM gives dumb and dumber a hand with the storytelling for the final season. Don't want this show to completely disintegrate.
So is Bran pretty much the only reason the night king can cross the wall ? Guessing the only reason they gave the army of the dead a dragon is for a 'money shot' of them bringing down the wall despite the fact they can more or less walk through.
So is Bran pretty much the only reason the night king can cross the wall ? Guessing the only reason they gave the army of the dead a dragon is for a 'money shot' of them bringing down the wall despite the fact they can more or less walk through.
Ah I remember when I was young and naive and assumed Robb Stark would storm Kings Landing and rescue his sister and the good guys relatively speaking, would prevail.
I actually think Kit and Emilia have good on screen chemistry. They both improved their acting a teeny tiny bit this season as well.
Definitely with Ninja on this one, I cant imagine many people were surprised by the feelings revealed between Jon and Dany. My objection to it was more that it ended up eclipsing Dany's other, motherly love, which was a bridge too far for me, after the amount of emphasis they have placed on the dragons being her babies.
The show threw the two characters together constantly, but the actors are such blanks that the nature of the relationship was never clear (at least to me). I knew that the show was trying to tell me something, but I never felt a romantic vibe between Jon and Dany.
It seems that others felt differently though, so fair enough.
I think that romance derives from the plot to be fair, more than any supercharged chemistry between them. Not that there was no chemistry, but it wasnt laid on super thick or anything. It was more the feeling of inevitability that they would end up getting it on from the moment it was revealed they were brother and sister - especially with the symmetry of the incest on the Lannister side. They are both young, good looking, powerful people, it always felt like it was going to happen.
She's his aunt, not his sister