Ohh I get your point now. But at least if he had let her finish, then he would have known that Rhaegar married Lyanna. Then when he gets to Winterfell, this topic comes up and he knows where to find proof.
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It really hasn't imo. Doesn't do the show justice. Past 6 season we're perfect. Now it feels rushed. But at the same time 'I'm like why the feck are you spending 3 minutes of air time on gold cloaks etc. Pacing feels all wrong to me.
Which usually would take 3 episodes to happen. What was the fecking point of the whole show?
Just my opinion, but I find it disappointing.
There isn't really much intrigue left, is there?
It's like this show had amazing twist and turns and different narratives. Now magically everyone ends up in a fecking the same spot all looking to catch a wight.
I know I said it's a slow episode, earlier. Frankly I don't know why I said it. It's rushed as feck. This whole season I mean.
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If he bothered to remember it I mean a few seconds later he was confusing the number of steps or windows. Oh it is set up for Sam or gilly to remember it later but to have Sam treat it as special news at this moment of the story would be silly.
You could argue that about all the politics between humans for the whole show. Because basically it's all just gonna be about dragons v white walkers
I get you dont like the show pacing has changed, but the question above is just strange.Anyway the way I see it, the first few seasons were all about character along with plot with regards to conversations, travelling, the duos and such.
now everything that happens and is said is with regards to plot, and the main two things:
-War for the 7 kingdoms
-War against the Dead.
The ep wasnt disjointed at all. In fact there was a lot of sequence to most of the scenes.
A lot happened which was nuts.
The only 2 things that id ask would be:
-When Bronn and Jamie go into the water, why did nobody fish them out? Esp as you know one is Jamie who is an important figure in this war.
-WTF has Euron been doing all this time?
Gendry told Jon he's Robert's son...
Might get a bit awkward once he finds out his dad killed Jon's real dad.
But she's willing to roast anyone who doesn't bend the knee
After the massive fight last week with the lannisters on the ropes it does feel a little odd to just stop and attempt a truce
Can we have one flashback scene of Rhaegar please, I wanna see what this MF looked like
She did say the Lannister army are her enemies because they are willing to kill her and her men. The innocent civilians at Kings Landing arent the same people. She kills military men not people who dont fight.
While I'm enjoying the fast-paced season, @MaxiPaxi has a fair point. Some things go feel glossed over. Tyrion and Jaime's conversation felt kind of rushed. The whole gang heading north of the wall basically got a few throwaway lines concerning their differences when there's probably a lot more they all have to talk about...but maybe we'll get more on that in the next episode.
7/10 for me. The speedy calm before the storm.
I think that was a solid episode of Game of Thrones, the calm before the storm if you will. I like direction the plot is heading in, too - when season 6 ended this isn't where I imagined the story would be at all.
Having said that, the pace was too fast for me on this occasion. We hit at least seven major plot points which would have defined entire episodes, perhaps even seasons, once upon a time. But this week huge moments were introduced in a single scene and processed too quickly for us to really experience them.
When Jon touches Drogon it's the moment that confirms to the dragons that he's got something about him; Jorah returns; fecking Gendry returns and meets Jon Snow; Sam gives up his lifelong ambition and finally takes his own initiative; Tyrion and Jaime meet; Cersei's pregnant; there's a truce deal in place now; the Tarlys are dead; the Night King is marching on the Wall; Jon and company are gonna march out to capture a wight!
I wanted to sit and live in these moments far longer than the episode allowed me to, and it really didn't feel comfortable. I don't have an issue with the speed of this season in general, and they're doing a superb job of hoovering up irrelevant families, tying up loose ends and generally refining the story towards its narrow, focused end (all while the books get larger and more unwieldy). But tonight it veered just too far towards being too fast.
Each scene was solid - Davos carries the action every time he's in shot, Tyrion's meet with Jaime was brief but emotionally resonant, Jon works that Targ magic on Drogon like a seductive champ, those shots of the ravens flying around the Wall were so graceful, and it's fecking awesome to have Gendry back actually - but as I've said, each of those scenes was too eager to finish before it let the full emotional weight hit me.
I expect we'll slow down again in the next episode and it'll return to normal because the pieces really are on the board now with so many characters presumably staying in one location for the full hour. But with the pacing of this season we've already had to readjust how we watch this show, "Eastwatch" forced us to do it again. A solid hour of TV, a decent hour of Game of Thrones, but probably my least favourite episode of the season so far.
Having said that, the pace was too fast for me on this occasion. We hit at least seven major plot points which would have defined entire episodes, perhaps even seasons, once upon a time. But this week huge moments were introduced in a single scene and processed too quickly for us to really experience them.
When Jon touches Drogon it's the moment that confirms to the dragons that he's got something about him; Jorah returns; fecking Gendry returns and meets Jon Snow; Sam gives up his lifelong ambition and finally takes his own initiative; Tyrion and Jaime meet; Cersei's pregnant; there's a truce deal in place now; the Tarlys are dead; the Night King is marching on the Wall; Jon and company are gonna march out to capture a wight!
I wanted to sit and live in these moments far longer than the episode allowed me to, and it really didn't feel comfortable. I don't have an issue with the speed of this season in general, and they're doing a superb job of hoovering up irrelevant families, tying up loose ends and generally refining the story towards its narrow, focused end (all while the books get larger and more unwieldy). But tonight it veered just too far towards being too fast.
Each scene was solid - Davos carries the action every time he's in shot, Tyrion's meet with Jaime was brief but emotionally resonant, Jon works that Targ magic on Drogon like a seductive champ, those shots of the ravens flying around the Wall were so graceful, and it's fecking awesome to have Gendry back actually - but as I've said, each of those scenes was too eager to finish before it let the full emotional weight hit me.
I expect we'll slow down again in the next episode and it'll return to normal because the pieces really are on the board now with so many characters presumably staying in one location for the full hour. But with the pacing of this season we've already had to readjust how we watch this show, "Eastwatch" forced us to do it again. A solid hour of TV, a decent hour of Game of Thrones, but probably my least favourite episode of the season so far.
He'll definitely remember. Gilly probably took the book with her as well, just to be on the safe side.
We just have to wait for Bran, Jon and Sam to meet up in the same place. Possibly as soon as the last episode of the season. Next ep will probably be north of the wall.
In regards to the show slowing down and the next episode:
It really doesnt mate. Not sure if you watch trailers or not for the next episode but I did.[/SPOILERS]
Could that scene with Jon finding out be the cliffhanger at the end of the season?
Especially if Sansa is there with them.
But will she have taken that scroll though? I mean she would want to leave it back in place so LF knows no one was in his room.
Anyway the way I see it, the first few seasons were all about character along with plot with regards to conversations, travelling, the duos and such.
now everything that happens and is said is with regards to plot, and the main two things:
-War for the 7 kingdoms
-War against the Dead.
The ep wasnt disjointed at all. In fact there was a lot of sequence to most of the scenes.
A lot happened which was nuts.
The only 2 things that id ask would be:
-When Bronn and Jamie go into the water, why did nobody fish them out? Esp as you know one is Jamie who is an important figure in this war.
-WTF has Euron been doing all this time?
I disagree. Episodes like 'kill the boy' and other etc.. in earlier seasons were excellently paced. Unlike this season. These episodes are fast paced without actually much happening. Just feels rushed. I don't know. Feck I'm not a fan of only having 7 episodes per season left. Just fecking daft. Tell the story like you always told it.
I do like how such an insignificant character like Gilly is the one who drops the biggest bomb of the show.
Im seriously not liking the way Sansa is acting towards Jon. Arya was spot on. I really hope Sansa doesnt do the unthinkable. fecking hate her for it.
That's exactly how I feel. I'm only after watching the old episodes before this and the difference in quality is telling in my opinion. They're just cramming as much as they can into an hour and it just feels stupid.
Only thing that bugged me was jorah not mentioning sam to jon
I heard he looked like Paul Giamatti
But we know thats not the case and pretty much the reason why. They are limited on that as opposed to how a book medium would be (especially cost of cast and graphics etc).
As I said I get it, but weve known about this for a long time and its not going to change. The pace had to change and imo, given its coming to an end, its going at a pace I was expecting.
I dont agree that nothing happens. A LOT happened. I do wish we had an extra ten minutes to process some of the stuff, but im not complaining.
Also part of me would find it funny if they never the Gilly comment ever again. And it was just a line to make people excited
Imagine if Cersei's kid came out...and it was a dwarf.
I shouldn't have been reading theories ffs...
It's so obvious where the show is heading.
It's so obvious where the show is heading.
HUGE episode! Gilly with the biggest fecking reveal of the show since R+L=J was confirmed. I still can't comprehend that nugget of information.
Loved the bit of fan service when Davos found Gendry. Most random return I can remember in a show, but he'll definitely be significant since they bothered to bring him back, and the fact that he has a Robert-style hammer is ominous. Wonder if he'll make a claim for the throne down the line being the last remaining Baratheon, even if he is a bastard? I hope Arya and him get to meet up, though. Preferably over an ale and a Hot Pie.
Sansa is going to pull some cnut move before the end of the season, isn't she? Something's not right there.
Littlefinger is so ded. I genuinely thought the episode would end with him getting fecked up by Arya.
I also don't think Cersei is necessarily pregnant. She's in desperation mode and needs to ensure that Jaime will follow her plans. Also, the prophecy from her childhood flashback said she would have three children. She's either not pregnant or she'll get killed off before the child is born.
Loved the bit of fan service when Davos found Gendry. Most random return I can remember in a show, but he'll definitely be significant since they bothered to bring him back, and the fact that he has a Robert-style hammer is ominous. Wonder if he'll make a claim for the throne down the line being the last remaining Baratheon, even if he is a bastard? I hope Arya and him get to meet up, though. Preferably over an ale and a Hot Pie.
Sansa is going to pull some cnut move before the end of the season, isn't she? Something's not right there.
Littlefinger is so ded. I genuinely thought the episode would end with him getting fecked up by Arya.
I also don't think Cersei is necessarily pregnant. She's in desperation mode and needs to ensure that Jaime will follow her plans. Also, the prophecy from her childhood flashback said she would have three children. She's either not pregnant or she'll get killed off before the child is born.
Its pretty obvious she's going to have a miscarriage. The prophecy from that froggy lady in the forest stated that she'll only have 3 kids. All of them will die. She'll marry the king and not the prince (she was promised to Rhaegar before Robert killed him) Basically all the shit that witch lady said came true. Cersei ain't having a kid.
Also Tormund is awesome.
"You need to convince the one with the dragons or the one that fecks her brother?" ahaha
"You need to convince the one with the dragons or the one that fecks her brother?" ahaha
Who looked like Qyburn.Imagine if Cersei's kid came out...and it was a dwarf.
Is the tall woman coming?
I dont think it will just go away but IF that indeed was the case then it surely did its job.Also part of me would find it funny if they never the Gilly comment ever again. And it was just a line to make people excited
I won't be satisfied with this show until Tormund gets his beloved Brienne and creates the fiercest children ever to roam Westeros.Is the tall woman coming?
The Mountain ain't got shit on those kids.
Why? Its insignificant. The only real connection that Sam might have to Jon according to Sir Jorah is the fact that they both mentioned his father. But no one told him they know each other.
In regards to the party going north of the Wall...
I'm thinking we see a few of them die. Until now the WW's have been a background threat, and they've never really killed anyone we actually care about. Beric and Thoros will go probably, as will Tormund in all likelihood. I'd love The Hound to survive, but can see them offing him and Jorah as well. I reckon they'll leave alive Gendry with him being the last Baratheon in the show and all, but if they're feeling bold, could end up with just Jon making it out. Hope that's not the case though...don't want them to trim the cast too much heading into the final season.
What about a game of death pool in episode 6? Surely quite a few is going to bite the dust.
Jon, Tormund, Jorah, Thoros, Berric, Sandor and Gendry all heading north. The march of the seven.
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Jon, Tormund, Jorah, Thoros, Berric, Sandor and Gendry all heading north. The march of the seven.
Leak readers; please refrain from participating.
Lives: Jon, Jorah, Sandor, Thoros. Dies: Berric (nailed on), Gendry and Tormund
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