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My theory is that history will basically repeat itself. Cersei will stand in the throne room commanding her armies and loyalists to "burn them all", and Jamie does the same thing he did the last time a ruler gave commands like that, becoming Queenslayer as well. After killing his only purpose in life, he'll kill himself right after.

Not sure Jamie would ever kill Cersei tbh and I don't think his character is destined to die by suicide. It would be so...underwhelming. What would be cool is if he ends up in the hands of the Starks, Arya 'takes his face' and kills Cersei disguised as Jamie.
 
Littlefingers next betrayal is blatantly obvious and wishing it would just be over and done with now. Im hoping its a case of the audience are being played and we and Littlefinger are being led to believe Sansa will side with him and she doesn't.
No way does she side with Littlefinger. She's already said he isn't trustworthy.

Sansa is 'woke' - no way is she gullible enough to fall for his shit, she'll side with family over Littlefinger.
 
He's shown feck all reaction to any of the other childrens deaths and not once did he question what the feck Cersie has been doing. I also find it ridiculous given his history that he hasn't put together the similarity of the Mad King and Cersei, its identical.
I think he did question her in episode 1 of this season when they were standing on that map. I think he said something like we should be mourning the death of our children to which she replies "Our children are dead and they are not coming back" or something like that. As for not putting 2 and 2 together, well its clearly cause he is in love with her. You dont want to accept the fact that she is becoming the mad queen.
 
Can't believe Dany fell for the rubbish White Walker stick figures Jon Snow drew on the inside of the cave.
 
looks like he is being set up to defect again. The pained look on his face when the Dothraki said 'your people can't fight, the prospect of him saving his beloved brother from execution and the fact that Jamie now knows he didn't kill Joff. He might even save his buddy Bron too.
I doubt Jamie will be forgiving towards Tyrion though. He might not have killed Joffrey but he did kill their father.
 
No way does she side with Littlefinger. She's already said he isn't trustworthy.

Sansa is 'woke' - no way is she gullible enough to fall for his shit, she'll side with family over Littlefinger.

Its what Im hoping, would be surprised it they had Sansa side with Littlefinger just for shock value though.
 
What's the policy on posting about stuff that's already happened in the books and in the show? Like if there were to be some small detail that might help better explain something in one of the current episodes?
 
What's the policy on posting about stuff that's already happened in the books and in the show? Like if there were to be some small detail that might help better explain something in one of the current episodes?
You'll be celebrated temporarily before dying in dragon fire.
 
What's the policy on posting about stuff that's already happened in the books and in the show? Like if there were to be some small detail that might help better explain something in one of the current episodes?
If it's not in the show, don't post it.

If it's only knowledge because of the book, don't post it.

Whether that's the name of a ship. Or someone's middle name.

I'm going to guess you want to talk about the
dagger? Don't
 
You'll be celebrated temporarily before dying in dragon fire.
If it's not in the show, don't post it.

If it's only knowledge because of the book, don't post it.

Whether that's the name of a ship. Or someone's middle name.

I'm going to guess you want to talk about the
dagger? Don't
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Nah, it was about my previous post but I'll let it be.
 
Basically having to unfollow everyone on Facebook to avoid spoilers/leaks. fecking idiots.
 
Saw the director saying there that the idea of the battle was to show the viewpoint from a traditional fighter like Jaime, and how an unknown entity like napalm (aka dragons) can basically feck all known logic. It did feel quite Apocalypse Now at times.
 
Employee of the Month

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Saw this on Reddit, though it was cool as feck

The stuntmen at the battle
 
Are they talking about the rest of the season?

So far I've had 1 thing spoiled for the next episode & potentially another season spoiler (which might just be speculation). It's so annoying, if you have spoilers don't put it in the headline/picture! Never understood why people feel the need to spoil enjoyment for others.
 
So far I've had 1 thing spoiled for the next episode & potentially another season spoiler (which might just be speculation). It's so annoying, if you have spoilers don't put it in the headline/picture! Never understood why people feel the need to spoil enjoyment for others.
Ah feck. I think I've just got shown a massive spoiler. Might be fake, but still. Fecking hell. Feck feck feck

don't click on any 'fan art!'

Feck.
 
This is exactly how I see it, and exactly why I find the pandering to, and cheerleading of, Daenarys so galling.

She is as self-entitled as anyone in the show, if not more.
I'm not sure how the show truly feels about Daenerys going full Mad Queen yet, especially while Cersei is still alive and somewhat occupying that role. They've been building blood lust into her character the entire time, mainly through verbal reminders from her advisers that while she isn't like her father, she still has the potential to veer towards authoritarianism. Daario has remarked that she's "a conqueror, not a ruler"; when she broke up with Daario in the season six finale she said she "felt nothing, just eager to get on with it"; in the opener of this season she had the chance to sit on her throne at Dragonstone and accept her role as a ruler, but instead went straight to the Painted Table chamber and set about outlining her battle strategies. She's eager to "be a dragon", to destroy mercilessly.

But while this is the case, the audience have still been instructed to sympathise with her from the moment we met her, so it's going to be hard to watch her switch from being someone we can get behind to someone who needs to be stopped. The Targaryens are widely considered by the Westerosi public to be the main antagonists but our journey with Dany has proven they're more multi-faceted than the rulers of Westeros would have you believe. The way Daenerys' character is written is effectively going to have to make the transition from being a person we willingly sympathise with to someone we'll reluctantly want to be curtailed in order for there to be a reasonable, diplomatic approach to the future of Westerosi politics.

Daenerys is going to feck shit up beyond repair if she carries on the way she's going now, and that's not good. This probably means that one of our more reasonable characters, be it Jon, Tyrion, Varys, or even Jaime - to bookend his story by murdering two Targaryens - will have to cut her down before she goes too far. I'm predicting death for Dany before she has the chance to burn cities to nothing. It would be classic Game of Thrones to build a character up for eight seasons, only to cut them down right as they're about to grasp either the truth or their heart's desire. They've done it to Ned and Robb, they've done it to Margaery, and they'll gladly do it to Daenerys for one final heartbreak.
 
I think Jon rather than Tyrion will be the one to help control Dany. She used her dragons, sure, but it was aimed at an army rather than bystanders (for now). I think it was needed too given the way the war was going. I think she will want to try and wipe out elements of armies whilst trying to recruit those that remain alive. That way she is ruling over people of Westeros (and not just invaders). having these allies (esp the North) makes her more legit and more of a 'good person'.

Also why I think she brought one dragon rather than three. One she can ride and control. Whereas the other two could be there but as seen in a previous season, she doesnt have full control of them the bigger they get.
 
Just checked the running times for the remainder of the season. This one is definitely the shortest, next week it's bak to 59 minutes. Then the penultimate episode runs at 71 minutes and the finale clocks in at 81 minutes.

I don't actually mind these shorter episode seasons if the episodes themselves are much longer. Be interesting to see how long next season episodes run for, considering it's shorter again.
 
Among the 3 dragons, who is the one who she struggled controlling the most ?
Drogon...always been the biggest, meanest and wildest.

Remember when he snapped at her when he was fighting over food with the other two? He also roasted those poor farmers and then disappeared.
 
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Just checked the running times for the remainder of the season. This one is definitely the shortest, next week it's bak to 59 minutes. Then the penultimate episode runs at 71 minutes and the finale clocks in at 81 minutes.

I don't actually mind these shorter episode seasons if the episodes themselves are much longer. Be interesting to see how long next season episodes run for, considering it's shorter again.

Hopefully the finale is like a TV movie/ 90 -115 minutes or close to it. Would be quite something.

Also quite sad, we have 3 episodes of this season left, then 6 after. Were into less than double digits :(
 
Hopefully the finale is like a TV movie/ 90 -115 minutes or close to it. Would be quite something.

Also quite sad, we have 3 episodes of this season left, then 6 after. Were into less than double digits :(

Yeah i hope so.

I know, 9 episodes and it's all over. For me it's easily the best thing on tv at the moment, and one of the best tv shows of all time. Despite some of the grumbles and slight grievances uttered in this thread, i think most people would agree with that sentiment.

Going to be very sad when it's all over.
 
Hopefully the finale is like a TV movie/ 90 -115 minutes or close to it. Would be quite something.

Also quite sad, we have 3 episodes of this season left, then 6 after. Were into less than double digits :(
Honestly I cannot wait for it to finish. It's been too long for me with too many fillers in the whole show. The time it took Dany to get to Westeros :wenger:, the time it took the stark brothers to meet up again :wenger: Patience isn't my thing but the sooner GoT gets wrapped up, the better.
This is why I'm a big fan of the fast pace of this season.
 
Just checked the running times for the remainder of the season. This one is definitely the shortest, next week it's bak to 59 minutes. Then the penultimate episode runs at 71 minutes and the finale clocks in at 81 minutes.

I don't actually mind these shorter episode seasons if the episodes themselves are much longer. Be interesting to see how long next season episodes run for, considering it's shorter again.
The length of each season and percentage of the full ten hour TV slot Game of Thrones has.

Season 1 - 9:17
Season 2 - 9:09
Season 3 - 9:15
Season 4 - 9:03
Season 5 - 9:18
Season 6 - 9:21
Season 7 - 7:18

So while we might only have seven episodes, their length is similar to eight episode of a regular season. If the rumours are true, that we're looking at five 70-80 minute episodes for the final season, with a two-hour finale, we could be looking at season eight touching eight hours as well.
 
Hopefully the finale is like a TV movie/ 90 -115 minutes or close to it. Would be quite something.

Also quite sad, we have 3 episodes of this season left, then 6 after. Were into less than double digits :(
I've watched tons of shows over the years and only one so far has almost left me very very sad when it ended and that was Friends and I think GOT will be the 2nd one.
 
I'm not sure how the show truly feels about Daenerys going full Mad Queen yet, especially while Cersei is still alive and somewhat occupying that role. They've been building blood lust into her character the entire time, mainly through verbal reminders from her advisers that while she isn't like her father, she still has the potential to veer towards authoritarianism. Daario has remarked that she's "a conqueror, not a ruler"; when she broke up with Daario in the season six finale she said she "felt nothing, just eager to get on with it"; in the opener of this season she had the chance to sit on her throne at Dragonstone and accept her role as a ruler, but instead went straight to the Painted Table chamber and set about outlining her battle strategies. She's eager to "be a dragon", to destroy mercilessly.

But while this is the case, the audience have still been instructed to sympathise with her from the moment we met her, so it's going to be hard to watch her switch from being someone we can get behind to someone who needs to be stopped. The Targaryens are widely considered by the Westerosi public to be the main antagonists but our journey with Dany has proven they're more multi-faceted than the rulers of Westeros would have you believe. The way Daenerys' character is written is effectively going to have to make the transition from being a person we willingly sympathise with to someone we'll reluctantly want to be curtailed in order for there to be a reasonable, diplomatic approach to the future of Westerosi politics.

Daenerys is going to feck shit up beyond repair if she carries on the way she's going now, and that's not good. This probably means that one of our more reasonable characters, be it Jon, Tyrion, Varys, or even Jaime - to bookend his story by murdering two Targaryens - will have to cut her down before she goes too far. I'm predicting death for Dany before she has the chance to burn cities to nothing. It would be classic Game of Thrones to build a character up for eight seasons, only to cut them down right as they're about to grasp either the truth or their heart's desire. They've done it to Ned and Robb, they've done it to Margaery, and they'll gladly do it to Daenerys for one final heartbreak.

If she had been so thirsty for blood, she would have ridden the dragons and she would have set King's Landing on fire right from the get go. Instead she just sat there and watched some of her best allies being obliterated. And she didn't burn cities to cinders, she used the dragon against Lannister soldiers... in a war. Hardly an act of madness, the way i see it. If Cersei had three dragons, i doubt there would have been anything taller than grass standing in the whole of Westeros right now.

I also disagree that the show runners have given us only verbal reminders of her differing when compared with her ancestors. She frees slaves, she opposes the rich lords of Essos who want slave trade to be reestablished to the point of a coup against her and when her dragons cause destruction to farmers' livestock, she puts her dragons in a dungeon. Most of the people who follow her truly believe in her.

This doesn't mean that we'll see a happy ending with her but, in my opinion, her turning into a chaotic evil character and the main villain in the final season will be bad character writing and nothing more. Just as will be Sansa choosing to embrace Cersei's teachings after all the shite she's been through and siding with Littlefinger in order to feck Jon over. These two have certainly become more hardened, they've grown into strong independent women, able to make decisions, rule and gain the admiration of people around them.

Plus if there's one great villain in this saga, that's Cersei. For better or worse she deserves a place in the grand finale, i wouldn't replace her with any other character from the main cast.
 
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Anyone else think there are more callbacks this season? Hot Pie and the armour, the hound and those people he buried, Arya's "that's not you", Bran's "chaos is a ladder", Tyrion quoting Bronn, Davos' "fewer" comment, etc.
 
If she had been so thirsty for blood, she would have ridden the dragons and she would have set Ling's Landing on fire right from the get go. Instead she just sat there and watched some of her best allies being obliterated. And she didn't burn cities to cinders, she used the dragon against Lannister soldiers... in a war. Hardly an act of madness, the way i see it. If Cersei had three dragons, i doubt there would have been anything taller than grass standing in the whole of Westeros right now.

I also disagree that the show runners have given us only verbal reminders of her differing when compared with her ancestors. She frees slaves, she opposes the rich lords of Essos who want slave trade to be reestablished to the point of a coup against her and when her dragons cause destruction to farmers' livestock, she puts her dragons in a dungeon. Most of the people who follow her truly believe in her.

This doesn't mean that we'll see a happy ending with her but, in my opinion, her turning into a chaotic evil character and the main villain in the final season will be bad character writing and nothing more. Just as will be Sansa choosing to embrace Cersei's teachings after all the shite she's been through and siding with Littlefinger in order to feck Jon over. These two have certainly become more hardened, they've grown into strong independent women, able to make decisions, rule and gain the admiration of people around them.

Plus if there's one great villain in this saga, that's Cersei. For better or worse she deserves a place in the grand finale, i wouldn't replace her with any other character from the main cast.

The best Chow mein you can get in Westeros.
 
Cersei makes the show, for me. I have zero feeling for Daenarys, the Stark girls, the Dorne girls, Olenna Tyrell etc. Even Jon Snow, I feel, is bland.

Remove Cersei and the show goes down the pan, in my view. She's a brilliant character.