Television Game of Thrones (TV) • The watch has ended

Has Sam told Jon that he saw Bran while he crossed the wall? Or when Bran reaches Winterfell now,it's going to be a complete surprise to him to see him alive?
 
Maybe the writers did, too. Just like they forgot Sam knowing about dragonglass at Dragonstone.
Couldnt it be a case of him being told, not believing it (thus forgetting) and then just being prompted when reading about it (thus fact rather than hearsay)

its happened to me before :nervous:
 
Just out of curiosity, when do the episodes air in UK and Europe?
If people can't wait until it screens on Monday night, then they can watch it on platforms like NowTV which shows it at the same time as the US. So around 2am.
I usually download it on Monday morning before i leave for work.
 
Watching s3 ep 9 and 10 back to back. (especially after watching ep1 of s7).

The red wedding still shocks me (I thankfully managed to avoid every single spoiler regarding it until seeing it and being utterly stunned).
But the aftermath. Forgot that they put Robbs direwolf head on Robbs corpse.

Also Joffrey calling Tywin a coward and Tywins stare was just awesome. Such a presence.
But something I forgot, Brann telling a story about the rat cook. Somebody from the nights watch who was annoyed by the king, so cooked the kings son into a pie and fed it to the King.
The Gods turned the cook into a rat. Not because of the murder, but because the Gods couldnt forgive a host who killed somebody they invited into their house.
It then switches to Walder Frey.

Great stuff.
 
Watching s3 ep 9 and 10 back to back. (especially after watching ep1 of s7).

The red wedding still shocks me (I thankfully managed to avoid every single spoiler regarding it until seeing it and being utterly stunned).
But the aftermath. Forgot that they put Robbs direwolf head on Robbs corpse.

Also Joffrey calling Tywin a coward and Tywins stare was just awesome. Such a presence.
But something I forgot, Brann telling a story about the rat cook. Somebody from the nights watch who was annoyed by the king, so cooked the kings son into a pie and fed it to the King.
The Gods turned the cook into a rat. Not because of the murder, but because the Gods couldnt forgive a host who killed somebody they invited into their house.
It then switches to Walder Frey.

Great stuff.

So Arya is about to turn into a Rat. :eek:

Or was he punished because he was the host and he killed the son? So Arya being a guest would be let off the hook?
 
Watching s3 ep 9 and 10 back to back. (especially after watching ep1 of s7).

The red wedding still shocks me (I thankfully managed to avoid every single spoiler regarding it until seeing it and being utterly stunned).
But the aftermath. Forgot that they put Robbs direwolf head on Robbs corpse.

Also Joffrey calling Tywin a coward and Tywins stare was just awesome. Such a presence.
But something I forgot, Brann telling a story about the rat cook. Somebody from the nights watch who was annoyed by the king, so cooked the kings son into a pie and fed it to the King.
The Gods turned the cook into a rat. Not because of the murder, but because the Gods couldnt forgive a host who killed somebody they invited into their house.
It then switches to Walder Frey.

Great stuff.

The foreshadowing is legendary in this show.

What they did to robb after he died was the most degrading part of the story for me, robb was an extremely likeable character.

Tywin was brilliant aswell, he's the only person that's rode his horse into the throne room (and let it take a shit outside the door) which summed up to me how he was clearly in control of the realm.
 
So Arya is about to turn into a Rat. :eek:

Or was he punished because he was the host and he killed the son? So Arya being a guest would be let off the hook?

Arya wasnt the host, so it seems that Walder was the one punished. haha

The foreshadowing is legendary in this show.

What they did to robb after he died was the most degrading part of the story for me, robb was an extremely likeable character.

Tywin was brilliant aswell, he's the only person that's rode his horse into the throne room (and let it take a shit outside the door) which summed up to me how he was clearly in control of the realm.

All the scenes between Tywin and Tyrion were excellent. The way the two of them dealt with Joffrey was always fascinating.
Tywin was more cold and calculated knowing that he was the King (in name and crown) but Joffrey didnt run shit.
Whereas Tyrion was the only one who really said it like it was.

Tyrion is more like Tywin than anybody else. The Lannister children are weird because:

Tyrion keeps being told by tywin that hes no son of his, but stating Tyrion is a Lannister. Which makes me think Tyrion has a different father (and Tywin knows this) but obviously his mother was Twyins wife.
He hates him more for this reason rather than being short / dwarf.
Would be funny if Tyrion is a half Targaryen cos he would have been born similar to the way Jon Snow was (basically a bastard who killed his mother when born).
Also makes sense why the dragons didnt really hurt him (think it was s5 or s6)?

But then Jamie and Cersei and their incest is so Targaryen like. And then you think of Cersei doing the wildwire spread that the Mad King really wanted to do. Shes the mad queen completing what the mad king wanted to do.
Weird family :lol:
 
What's the deal with some of the presumed off screen deaths? Syrio and Stannis the best examples, why didn't they show us when we've seen countless gruesome sword deaths.
 
To keep the internet nerds quiet and happy sitting in their own filth concocting ridiculous theories
 
What's the deal with some of the presumed off screen deaths? Syrio and Stannis the best examples, why didn't they show us when we've seen countless gruesome sword deaths.

I would imagine the purposes of killing characters off-screen (without them turning out to be alive again later) is to remove focus from the death itself and onto other aspects of the story.

In Syrio's case his death is probably only important in terms of its effect on Arya. Plus not having her/us see that death increases the effect of her witnessing her father's death at the end of the season.

In Stannis' case it probably switches focus from his death to the moment before, when Brienne sentences him to death for Renly's murder and he seems to contemplate and accept it. That moment fits in with the general idea that his demise came about through his own actions (his army having abandoned him after he burned Shireen).
 
I feel like this show is vastly overrated. Maybe, I'm unable to appreciate it. It just seems as if nothing really progresses until the last episode.
 
I feel like this show is vastly overrated. Maybe, I'm unable to appreciate it. It just seems as if nothing really progresses until the last episode.
Fair enough if you think it's overrated, it is (despite being great), but usually the big moments happen in the ninth episode, not the last one!
 
Fair enough if you think it's overrated, it is (despite being great), but usually the big moments happen in the ninth episode, not the last one!

I watched seasons 1-3 in the space of two weeks and I thought it was amazing. Since watching an episode every week, it feels far too slow. Hence why I think its over rated.
 
Some footage released in comin con.. Like a trailer I suppose..

Putting it in a spoiler incase we are not allowed to post them..

 
You are correct.

I dont want to be some sort of hipster by criticising a show that so many like, but it really isnt as good as others I have seen.

Take this last episode, for instance, I feel like nothing happened. Jon Snow spoke to his sister. Sam spoke to some old guy. Bran spoke to that knights watch guy. Khaleesi spoke to no one. The incest Lannisters spoke to each other, too. A whole lot of talking yet no action. But Ed Sheeran sang a few lines.
 
I dont want to be some sort of hipster by criticising a show that so many like, but it really isnt as good as others I have seen.

Take this last episode, for instance, I feel like nothing happened. Jon Snow spoke to his sister. Sam spoke to some old guy. Bran spoke to that knights watch guy. Khaleesi spoke to no one. The incest Lannisters spoke to each other, too. A whole lot of talking yet no action. But Ed Sheeran sang a few lines.


It's a soap opera. I watch it out of habit.
 
I dont want to be some sort of hipster by criticising a show that so many like, but it really isnt as good as others I have seen.

Take this last episode, for instance, I feel like nothing happened. Jon Snow spoke to his sister. Sam spoke to some old guy. Bran spoke to that knights watch guy. Khaleesi spoke to no one. The incest Lannisters spoke to each other, too. A whole lot of talking yet no action. But Ed Sheeran sang a few lines.

You can't have action action action all the time. You have to have the setup, the completion of the storylines. Things are moving in motion. Yeah Sam spoke to some guy and it may seem pointless, but due to this, he discovered that there is dragonglass in dragonstone for example. You can't not have this for example in episode 1 and instead have them miraculously as if by magic discover dragonglass towards episode 6.

Also, tbf you had Arya brilliantly kill off 50 guys at once.
 
I dont want to be some sort of hipster by criticising a show that so many like, but it really isnt as good as others I have seen.

Take this last episode, for instance, I feel like nothing happened. Jon Snow spoke to his sister. Sam spoke to some old guy. Bran spoke to that knights watch guy. Khaleesi spoke to no one. The incest Lannisters spoke to each other, too. A whole lot of talking yet no action. But Ed Sheeran sang a few lines.
It's not hipster to complain about too much dialogue and crave action instead. That's the exact opposite of being pretentious.
 
The show needs a new villain.

Cersei doesn't fit the bill.

Need another proper menace.

The show thrives on you having strong feelings about the characters. Do any characters evoke any strong feelings currently?

Jon, Arya, Tyrion, Jamie, Sansa (where she's headed as in face or heel), Dany
 
You can't have action action action all the time. You have to have the setup, the completion of the storylines. Things are moving in motion. Yeah Sam spoke to some guy and it may seem pointless, but due to this, he discovered that there is dragonglass in dragonstone for example. You can't not have this for example in episode 1 and instead have them miraculously as if by magic discover dragonglass towards episode 6.

Also, tbf you had Arya brilliantly kill off 50 guys at once.

Is it possible to do this in a show with a gajillion characters over just 10 episodes?
 
Is it possible to do this in a show with a gajillion characters over just 10 episodes?

Of course it's possible, why wouldn't it be.

Take the example of Jon and Arya's stories.

Completely different arcs, spread over 6 seasons, each has his/her own story, ups and downs, whereas the main action of the show hasn't deviated at all (Baratheon Lanisster Martell Stark battles)
 
Of course it's possible, why wouldn't it be.

Take the example of Jon and Arya's stories.

Completely different arcs, spread over 6 seasons, each has his/her own story, ups and downs, whereas the main action of the show hasn't deviated at all (Baratheon Lanisster Martell Stark battles)

I would kindly disagree. For example, all we learnt from this episode regarding Khaleesi was that she and her army landed on this isles. In one entire episode, thats all we saw of a main character.
 
I watched seasons 1-3 in the space of two weeks and I thought it was amazing. Since watching an episode every week, it feels far too slow. Hence why I think its over rated.
Also the quality is plummeting after/starting with season 4.
It's not hipster to complain about too much dialogue and crave action instead. That's the exact opposite of being pretentious.
Too much dialogue? I wish...