Wasn't it a tree?
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Wasn't it a tree?
Put that giant in a suit of armour, give him a massive sword and just sit back and watch him win the battle on his own.
Wun Wun would have fecked up Ramsay's phalanx with a scythe type thing. Would have created a giant hole in that wall of men with a couple of swift sweeps. But that would be too easy for him. The story can't have that... unless he's punching his way into a fortress with his bare hands.
Changed it for you.
Though having watched that scene again, why have none of the nitpickers gotten upset that the dogs conveniently waited until Sansa and Ramsey were done talking to eat him? I mean he was in there, gates open, they could have eaten him up the moment he was put there.
Dogs can have dramatic sense.
That's what I thought. Give him a scythe and he'd clean up.
None of the Boltons even seemed that bothered there was a fecking giant on the other side.
Some say he is still rowing....
So no one else was laughing as the Three Musketeers were charging the Castle?
Or picked up some of the corpses and started pelting those soldiers with them.So true
Even just pulling out a tree would do.
Although imagine the dialogue:
Ramsay: "Those savages will be no match to my infantry formation. Wait, is that a giant with a tree? Retreat! Retreat!"
Him sitting there so smug when his knights where smashing the shield wall tells me he definitely is doing this for an alternative reason. Jon and Sansa may have won the north back but he's the one with the army.
That was the best episode of the whole entire series for mine.
It had an awesome opening with Dany and her pimping dragons (how damn awesome did they loo?) tearing shit up.
Then Jon calling Ramsey out like a bitch Then there was the Jon 'oh I done farqed up now' moment but he still draws his sword like a boss as the knights are thundering towards him.... That next immediate fight scene was simply outstanding, the choreography etc was just out of this world. I think it's the best I've seen TBH.
Also loved how Jon didn't say a word when he came after Ramsey and then just beat the piss out of him.
Oh man I couldn't sleep after watching that.
It had an awesome opening with Dany and her pimping dragons (how damn awesome did they loo?) tearing shit up.
Then Jon calling Ramsey out like a bitch Then there was the Jon 'oh I done farqed up now' moment but he still draws his sword like a boss as the knights are thundering towards him.... That next immediate fight scene was simply outstanding, the choreography etc was just out of this world. I think it's the best I've seen TBH.
Also loved how Jon didn't say a word when he came after Ramsey and then just beat the piss out of him.
Oh man I couldn't sleep after watching that.
No idea. They were leading the vanguard. Closely followed my thousands of soldiers.
It wasn't a deus ex machina.
We've seen Jon Snow trouncing around the North attempting to build support these last few episodes. All the while, Sansa has been getting increasingly desperate. She told her brother that there were too few men in his army on the eve of the battle and only then grudgingly sent a raven to Littlefinger. The fact that the Knights of the Vale arrived late also made complete sense. Sansa rode off at the last second after all hope seemed lost. Littlefinger's army was always going to arrive late because Sansa only made her deal with the devil as a last resort and rushed to bring them in them when shit started to get real. Also, unlike an ordinary deus ex machina, this one is going to have real consequences going forward. It's an extremely important narrative turn. Littlefinger is an evil bastard in his own right, albeit different from Ramsey.
One other thing I wanted to mention was about the 'predicability' of the episode. This show has a reputation for being unpredicatable because the 'bad guys' win so often. The 'good guys' have to win as well sometimes, in order for that to make any sense.
This episode was great.
We've seen Jon Snow trouncing around the North attempting to build support these last few episodes. All the while, Sansa has been getting increasingly desperate. She told her brother that there were too few men in his army on the eve of the battle and only then grudgingly sent a raven to Littlefinger. The fact that the Knights of the Vale arrived late also made complete sense. Sansa rode off at the last second after all hope seemed lost. Littlefinger's army was always going to arrive late because Sansa only made her deal with the devil as a last resort and rushed to bring them in them when shit started to get real. Also, unlike an ordinary deus ex machina, this one is going to have real consequences going forward. It's an extremely important narrative turn. Littlefinger is an evil bastard in his own right, albeit different from Ramsey.
One other thing I wanted to mention was about the 'predicability' of the episode. This show has a reputation for being unpredicatable because the 'bad guys' win so often. The 'good guys' have to win as well sometimes, in order for that to make any sense.
This episode was great.
It was certainly a deus ex machina, in the purist definition and not just one but two if you count Daenerys getting out of her little scrape.
We all know how this is going to end; Daenerys Queen, Greyjoys back at the iron islands, Winterfell now regained and the nights watch disbanded after defeating the white walkers through a large army contingent made up of everybody who is left and Daenery's dragons. Peace will be made with the Wildlings and the shire will bathe in sun light and good tidings until Sauron rises up to challenge the status quo. I sense a sickly sweet ending to Game of Thrones.
We all know how this is going to end; Daenerys Queen, Greyjoys back at the iron islands, Winterfell now regained and the nights watch disbanded after defeating the white walkers through a large army contingent made up of everybody who is left and Daenery's dragons. Peace will be made with the Wildlings and the shire will bathe in sun light and good tidings until Sauron rises up to challenge the status quo. I sense a sickly sweet ending to Game of Thrones.
"an unexpected power or event saving a seemingly hopeless situation, especially as a contrived plot device in a play or novel."
Neither was unexpected. We saw Sansa writing the letter in previous episodes, as well as Littlefinger convincing Robin to come to his cousin's aid. We also knew that Dany had won an army, had dragons and was presumably going back to her city.
I think you could argue that they were intended to be unexpected, irregardless of the fact that many of us expected it to happen. Seems a pedantic point to make anyway, whether or not it's a deus es machina.
It was a great episode, I'm happy enough with that.
Sorry, didn't mean to tread on any fan bois toes. It was an amazing episode like omgz!
Different strokes and all that. I just have a different opinion on this series, it's quite sad that it's going down the Hollywood route just to please everybody, I remember when people use to be in an uproar over the show, them be the days.
Different strokes and all that. I just have a different opinion on this series, it's quite sad that it's going down the Hollywood route just to please everybody, I remember when people use to be in an uproar over the show, them be the days.
Unless you researched the Internet or froze that screenshot you didn't know that letter was to Littlefinger. It could've been to Blackfish.
Incredible episode. Ramsay dying like that was poetic. I will miss his character though.
I guess King's landing is going to be the main focus for the finale?
I guess King's landing is going to be the main focus for the finale?
Oh and Snow has the tactical nous of Roy Hodgson.
Aye but being unexpected in that way doesn't make something DEM. This particular event made sense within the narrative of the story and was directly brought about by the characters involved.
It is 100% a pedantic point. People are just using the term wrong is all.
She sent Brienne to the Blackfish, she wouldn't send him a second letter
She sent Brienne to Blackfish with a letter and then sent another letter just cuz? That didn't strike me as being more likely than her sending a different letter to the guy who said he had an army waiting for her.
Regardless, even if we the viewers didn't know who the letter was to it still doesn't make it DEM. By that standard most plot twists would fall into the same category.
My spelling is terrible
Yeah it's a point I won't debate too much on, just happy the show is kicking into gear now.
But the bravery of fierce lions Joe Hart and John Terry.
Irrespective of her sending the letter, we already knew that Littlefinger had convinced her weird cousin to send troops to help her out. Besides, she had sent Brienne to speak with the Blackfish so it was likely the letter was for Littlefinger.
Braveheart.
Least you forget the late-backup Calvary charge borrowed from LOTR the twin towers!
I miss rob stark
There was a bit of saving Ryan's privates and Harry Pothead in there too.
I particularly loved how Bolton was screaming for a good minute or so whilst one of his hounds tucked into his face/neck. Anyway, it's all semantics. I'd be pretty pissed off at Melisandre not bring Rickon back... And for not getting her baps out.
Loved the deus ex machina.
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Game of thrones justice that episode. Going to miss ramsay, was a great character but a cnut of the highest order. Very pleasing seeing his ending. Also nice to see Daenerys dragons being put to use.
I used to think Deux Ex Machina was some pop culture reference to that Ex Machina movie. I never saw it, so I never understood it either. 
Some of you are so hard to please, that was fantastic viewing.
The 'Deus Ex Machina' was predictable but was also feasible, just found it weird how it took Sansa so long to ask the Vale for their help, I mean leaving it a bit late the night before the battle no?
Also, sounds horrible but I'm glad Rickon's dead. One less forgettable character to keep track of.
Who'll be the main detestable villain now? Cersei? The Ice King? Littlefinger?
The 'Deus Ex Machina' was predictable but was also feasible, just found it weird how it took Sansa so long to ask the Vale for their help, I mean leaving it a bit late the night before the battle no?
Also, sounds horrible but I'm glad Rickon's dead. One less forgettable character to keep track of.
Who'll be the main detestable villain now? Cersei? The Ice King? Littlefinger?
I think some are missing the point. It's not whether or not it was DEM in a pedantic sense. It's that it was meant to be, but they did a crap job of it.
Again the directing including the battle was fantastic. But the writing quality this season has dropped.
I don't get it. This season has been universally lambasted for being mostly crap, and now one good battle scene changes all that?
I can't wait until the final ever episode where Queen Daenerys rips off her many faced God mask to reveal Little Finger. Mormont will regret his intimate night with her celebrating their success that's for sure.