Varys slipping away just before the Masters attacked is dodgy as feck.
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That chase scene was full on Terminator 2.
I had a theory about Varys that I posted quite a while back;
Essentially that he is the leader (or one of) of the Sons of the Harpy. Wont go into too much detail here, but basically it seems odd to me that he just randomly decided to abandon Westeros/Kings Landing and sail half way around the world just because there was some Targaryan kid who he thought would do a better job of ruling the world. To me a more logical explanation was that he was effectively sent to kill (or delay) her by the small council - Robert in season one wanted to kill Dany after all, as I am sure the subsequent Iron Throners would do.
didn't he abandon Kings Landing as he was involved in helping Tyrion to escape? He would have lost his head in Kings Landing
My impression - which may have been wrong - was that Varys was already packed and ready to leave, and that bringing Tyrion along for the ride was almost an afterthought, rather than the reason for the entire trip.
He was headed back into KL until he heard the bells chiming, at which point it confirmed his suspicion that Tyrion had killed someone important on his way out. At least that's my impression.
My friend thinks Daario is the Harpy, but I don't agree. I do think he'll be killed off this season though...I mean, somebody's gotta die right? Aside from an obvious one like Ramsey Bolton
My friend thinks Daario is the Harpy, but I don't agree. I do think he'll be killed off this season though...I mean, somebody's gotta die right? Aside from an obvious one like Ramsey Bolton
Funnily enough, I've thought the same at times, but then I remember some plot point or other and it just doesn't make any sense for the leader to be him. But hey, the series looks to be going the way of not making sense so who knows 
I thought it was a decent episode overall... great at points, mainly when the Hound was involved, but there was other enjoyable stuff in there too. I didn't even mind the Marine stuff, even if it was beat-for-beat entirely predictable. (Deus-Ex-Dragonia is a thing)
The last 5 minutes was god awful though... Dorne levels of shitness. Who thought that chase scene would be a good idea? I'm sure someones put the Benny Hill music behind it by now.
The last 5 minutes was god awful though... Dorne levels of shitness. Who thought that chase scene would be a good idea? I'm sure someones put the Benny Hill music behind it by now.
The quality of writing has got shitter as the season has progressed. Aside from The Hound and Franken-zombie dude scenes, yesterday was some Mighty Morphin' Power Rangers level of shite.
Thought it was one of the worst episodes. I enjoyed the previous 2 so expected a lot more for number 8...shite
It's possible we have confused Arya's blind training with the true nature of those beatings; a punishment for not carrying out her assassination.
Something the waif, in her subservient zealotry towards the faceless men probably did not receive and could explain why Arya was able to win the duel.
Something the waif, in her subservient zealotry towards the faceless men probably did not receive and could explain why Arya was able to win the duel.
Saw this posted on the GOT IMDB messageboard; how would you like the show to finish? With a happy or sad ending?
Personally, I think a sad ending, or bittersweet ending, is more keeping in touch with GOT's theme as well as GRRM's story-telling to date.
I don't want to see a happily-ever-after fairytale kind of ending with all the shows main protagonists alive such as Dany, Jon and Sansa, because that simply isn't realistic. I've no idea how it will end, but I know I want to see Littlefinger making it through to the end. In my eyes, he's the main antagonist in the show - intelligent, cunning and deviant - he will go under the radar. I hope they don't kill him off anytime soon.
Personally, I think a sad ending, or bittersweet ending, is more keeping in touch with GOT's theme as well as GRRM's story-telling to date.
I don't want to see a happily-ever-after fairytale kind of ending with all the shows main protagonists alive such as Dany, Jon and Sansa, because that simply isn't realistic. I've no idea how it will end, but I know I want to see Littlefinger making it through to the end. In my eyes, he's the main antagonist in the show - intelligent, cunning and deviant - he will go under the radar. I hope they don't kill him off anytime soon.
I think with the amount of awesome characters, it's always going to be a bittersweet ending. Chances are some of our favourite characters are gonna lose out one way or another. But as long as Tyrion lives I'm all good.
The Night's King sitting on the Iron Throne while a massive blizzard brings on an ice age across Westeros and Essos. The preceeding shot to this was of Dany, Tyrion and Bran sitting on their dragons.....frozen inside a glacier.
Being a TV show, I could actually see a "happier" ending then GRRM might envision.
Could also see the Night Walker army defeated with a last shot of the Night's King, having retreated back North beyond the wreckage of the Wall, staring back south towards Jon Snow, Dany and a few others staring back. While around them the new men of the Night's Watch, aided by maesters and the priests/priestesses of the Red God are beginning the task of rebuilding the Wall to protect future generations from the Others.
Wildlings, what's left of them, can be seen heading North to reclaim their place beyond the Wall.
Being a TV show, I could actually see a "happier" ending then GRRM might envision.
Could also see the Night Walker army defeated with a last shot of the Night's King, having retreated back North beyond the wreckage of the Wall, staring back south towards Jon Snow, Dany and a few others staring back. While around them the new men of the Night's Watch, aided by maesters and the priests/priestesses of the Red God are beginning the task of rebuilding the Wall to protect future generations from the Others.
Wildlings, what's left of them, can be seen heading North to reclaim their place beyond the Wall.
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That Arya stuff went on way too long, this episode should've happened about 6 or 7 ago.
Just a minor detail but surely Jon would drive one of those dragons rather than Tyrion?
Just because you are have a man crush on Jon Snow doesn't mean he gets to do everything. Besides what is better than a midget on a dragon? Nothing. Nothing at all.
They've hinted at something like that seasons ago...
No Night King but a destroyed, frozen King's Landing.
No Night King but a destroyed, frozen King's Landing.
Wouldn't it be cool if Bran could warg into one of the dragons ? He has already warged into Hodor and into a direwolf, so who knows how powerful his warging abilities are. Him Warging into a Dragon would be the ultimate badass way to torch the Night King. A Song of Ice and Fire and all that (I've not read the novel, I just know that's the title of GRRM's series, so the Ice and Fire elements making sense for me)
Regarding how the show will end, honestly I don't even think the writers know. It'll probably be a very Hollywood-esque finish to the series since that is something I can trust the team to do well enough. And I think like someone mentioned, it'll probably end on a more sweeter note than the novels.
Regarding how the show will end, honestly I don't even think the writers know. It'll probably be a very Hollywood-esque finish to the series since that is something I can trust the team to do well enough. And I think like someone mentioned, it'll probably end on a more sweeter note than the novels.
They've hinted at something like that seasons ago...
No Night King but a destroyed, frozen King's Landing.
Many of her visions were untrue right ? Her having a child with the Khal ? I think those visions were just a case of one of those What if scenarios.
going to guess that the writers have a pretty good idea at this point how they intend to end the show. The journey might get tweaked, some of the details may get tweaked, but over all they are working (sometimes stumbling) along a path with a known destination.
Maybe, but I've been quite critical of them from the start of this season, so obviously my views will skew in that direction.
His increasingly ridiculous Northern accent is killing it for me.
Any chance we see one more series after this and then a movie or three to finish it off?
Both GRRM and those involved in writing and producing the show have been quoted many times as saying that they have discussed where the story goes and how it ends. This was necessitated by the fact that the last two books have yet to be written by GRRM so those involved with the show sort of needed him to give them some sort of information. So yes as I said they have stumbled along the path at times, but I am going to guess that at this point they know what the destination is.
Of course since GRRM has not finished the last two books, probably not even started the last one at all, who knows he might change his mind about where the story ends by time he writes the ending.
Given his age and how long its taking him to write the books (and lets face it he is not exactly a picture of health) there must be a realistic possibility that he never ends the books
Anything is possible I suppose, though I would guess HBO would insist on those movies being released on HBO not in the theater.
Yeah that is true, imagine how awful that would be for the fans whose main focus is the books.
Hmm, well I suppose that would make sense. Let's just hope there's less stumbling and more cohesiveness in some of the writing though.
I gave Dune a go a month or two ago and read after I'd finished it that Frank Herbert's son continued on the books after he died. Nightmare scenarion for some fans, I'm sure.
I remember reading somewhere that GRRM was contractually obligated to tell the ending to the screenwriters in case he dies before finishing the books - so I'd hazard a guess that they know very well which ending they're moving towards at the moment
They've hinted at something like that seasons ago...
No Night King but a destroyed, frozen King's Landing.
That could be ash rather than snow, in fairness.
Dune's a great book. Liked some of the sequel's others not so much. Read a couple of the books by his son, they were okay. I read the three House prequels, none of the others.
I was pretty meh about it, but there's only one book I've never finished in my life - it was called something like "The Making Of My Novel" by some random, and it was literally the minutae of how he wrote some rubbish sounding book.
I felt good when I finished Dune that I'd gotten through it
I only really read it because I want to watch Jodorowsky's Dune and wanted to be familiar with the material before I did.It's definitely snow
That's correct, the writers and network wanted to avoid a similar situation after the death of Robert Jordan and the Wheel of Time series.
The most Hollywood episode of yet. Some pretty cheesy and cliched writing, which was a shame since the same scenes could've been executed without it. I mean that jokes telling scene was so so bad, it looked like a spoof of the show.
The whole is Varys the secret leader doesn't make sense considering this happened;
He's being a Targ supporter since season one.
He's being a Targ supporter since season one.
Like the end of return of the Jedi.
Wit the same music.
And Jon Snow finds out Ramsey's his dad and turns him good before he dies tragically and sees a vision of him and all the other dead people over the fire with all the direwolves turning into ewoks
There have been some stuff I havent liked (or thought was cheap / poor looking) but for me thats pretty minor in the context of the overall season. Ive really enjoyed a lot of the scenes and story progression and characters. With 2 eps left, I believe we are going to get a big bang of a finish coming up. Cant wait.