Sylar
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Yeah but they cant exactly go "yes, hes coming back" given it was the big cliffhanger.
Does anyone else feel that the whole Jon Snow thing with the HBO "he's dead" confirmations was a bit like when a shit magician is trying to convince the kids it's in his left hand and they're all pointing at his right hand going "No it's in there mate" before the big reveal.... "TA DA!"
Yeah, we know.
Let's be honest, this show's become utter shite. I know fantasy as a genre is a lot about people travelling from point A to point B but that's usually against the backdrop of some sort of good vs evil narrative. Does anyone even know who's fighting who anymore? It's just a clusterfeck of half-baked storylines - most of which are playing out in slow motion.
I would suppose so, I think he would probably still stay at the Wall though and only leave if it is of utmost urgency. So if Sansa needs help getting the North back he might tag along.Is Jon now released from his Nights Watch vows, having "died"?
Is he free to go to Winterfell with Mel and slaughter Ramsey?
You left out the Royalty vs the Sparrows, which is surely going to come to a head soon.Yeah, I do.
Dorne is about to go to war with the Lannisters.
Ramsey Bolton is headed for The Wall to find Sansa.
Daenerys has been sidetracked yet again but is looking to eventually unite an army big enough to set sail with toward King's Landing to take back what she believes is her rightful throne.
The Night's Watch and Wildlings are aware of the imminent threat that the White Walkers bring and will look to convince other factions to realise that they can only be defeated if they work together.
And Littlefinger is somewhere plotting his ambitious plan to control Westeros one day.
Is Jon now released from his Nights Watch vows, having "died"?
Is he free to go to Winterfell with Mel and slaughter Ramsey?
Your criticism is its too complex for you?
Game of Thrones has always been about morally grey characters with unclear motives doing things for not immediately clear reasons. The precise attraction of it is that its not some cliched good vs evil nonsense.
Definitely the peak of the series for me.No my criticism is that it's a bit shit.
The first three - and best - seasons were underpinned by Starks vs Lannisters narrative.
I hope Jon's first act after resurrection is to behead that twat!Why do they keep showing us that little cnut of Olly ?
The next episode is called Oathbreaker. So I would assume so ?
Tywin was absolutely brilliant. Shame he was killed off.He and Charles Dance (Tywin) were terrific, even if you hated them.
Why do they keep showing us that little cnut of Olly ?
No my criticism is that it's a bit shit.
The first three - and best - seasons were underpinned by Starks vs Lannisters narrative.
I hope Jon's first act after resurrection is to behead that twat!
I actually find Ramsey to be a caracature. His over the top antics sit more with pantomime villan rather than a credible character from an award winning this show.Ramsey is a proper nutcase! I think we could all see him offing his father at one point but they just straight and did it in the 2nd episode! Even though he's an evil bastard I still find my self rooting for him.
I didn't really like the Jon resurrection scene. It was way to obvious, the ol' doom and gloom followed by the hero coming back from the dead. (in this case literally). It was like Hulk Hogan stuff.
Overall a great episode though, it had a few good laughs in it as well.
The show is so good it has been craving for next weeks episodes.
What Knights Watch? There's about 6 left.Is Jon now released from his Nights Watch vows, having "died"?
Is he free to go to Winterfell with Mel and slaughter Ramsey?
Let's be honest, this show's become utter shite. I know fantasy as a genre is a lot about people travelling from point A to point B but that's usually against the backdrop of some sort of good vs evil narrative. Does anyone even know who's fighting who anymore? It's just a clusterfeck of half-baked storylines - most of which are playing out in slow motion.
Khaleesi has lost her fleet, two of her cities and is prisoner of the Dothraki, I wouldn't be at all surprised if she never gets off Essos and maybe just settles for that as her kingdom.
Nah, you're good. He's new.Was I supposed to know who the bloke on the bridge was that killed Theon's old man? I have no idea if he's been in it before or not
Was I supposed to know who the bloke on the bridge was that killed Theon's old man? I have no idea if he's been in it before or not
I actually find Ramsey to be a caracature. His over the top antics sit more with pantomime villan rather than a credible character from an award winning this show.
Exactly. So over the top that's he's stopped having any impact.Agreed... nothing he does shocks me anymore because I find him to be too much of a cartoon villain at this point.
All he needs is a moustache to twirl and he'd be complete.
@Ijazz17
Or it could just be another episode where Jon is chewing on some ginger biscuits!
Jokes. Stoked he's back.
Oathbreaker could also be a reference to when Jaime stabbed the Mad King in the back. Potentially seeing a flashback to that
Agree with that completely.I actually find Ramsey to be a caracature. His over the top antics sit more with pantomime villan rather than a credible character from an award winning this show.
Yeah that bit confused me too. Slightly unsatisfying deaths for the 2 Red Wedding scumbags it has to be said.
Re: The Oathbreaker title. Could be a few things. They often have an episode title and then have it relate to several plot lines at once. They're clever like that.
It wasn't Walder Frey that was thrown off the bridge. There are at Pyke not at the Twins. It was Theon's father that died, Balon Greyjoy.
That's literally the same person.