Television Game of Thrones (TV) • The watch has ended

Would be funny if they had just brought back Jon, he walks out, somebody is shocked by him and shoots an arrow through his heart ... :nervous:
 
The actor of Tommen is so bad, and so is Sophie Turner. One dimensional, boring acting. Or maybe it is their characters I hate.
 
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Seriously? It really shouldn't be difficult at this point.

@Cina
 
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I think Sophie Turner is fine, well at least now she is. Season 1-3 she wasn't great but I think she has got better.
 
The point is that he was already alive just a few episodes ago. His death looks as though it was introduced purely to have a cliff-hanger at the end of last season and now we're meant to carry on like nothing happened. I really hope I'm wrong, though. I don't want GoT to become like every other show that keeps its stars on screen at all costs.
Meh, his death:
  • frees him from the oath
  • makes him a godlike figure in the eyes of everyone involved and puts a supernatural figure as the head of anti-Walkers resistance
  • hopefully makes him tougher
  • bonds him with the Lord of Light - who is the natural opponent to the White Walkers; fire vs ice
It certainly wasn't just for a cliffhanger
 
Must be Rickon, there's an Umber flag. Could be him but I am not entirely sure. Wouldn't really care if he died tbh, not really relevant to the plot right now but I am guessing he could be later on because of Shaggy Dog
That's what I was thinking. I wonder if they'll kill him off seeing as I don't see much point in him either going forward. They seem to be pushing Sansa as the leader of the house.

Maybe Ramsay uses him to lure Sansa/Jon out.
 
Wait, we can't discuss what's happened in episodes gone by and trailers released?
 
I didn't think trailers gave enough away. But cool, I'll stick to aired episodes.
 
Enjoyable episode, we're moving at a pretty nifty pace now.

Theon said he was going 'home', does he class the Iron Island home or is he going back to winterfell?

Jon coming back was inevitable ever since they gave his corpse that much screen time, it's fine by me but you can't get away with too many of these.

I'm guessing they're now going to feed Ramsay to Jon (not literally, although I suppose he is a zombie) and he along with (poor) Sansa will reunite the north.

The Bran stuff was well done, I'm very intrigued to find out how he joins up with the rest of the story now. Wilas!

They're not wasting time with the Arya storyline which is good as it's really lacking in momentum.

Khaleesi has lost her fleet, two of her cities and is prisoner of the Dothraki, I wouldn't be at all surprised if she never gets off Essos and maybe just settles for that as her kingdom. Her absence and the lack of Dorne really benefitted the episode.

We haven't seen Littlefinger for about half a season now I don't think, the last time we saw him he said he had the gift of a 'handsome young man' for Olenna, could he have come across (phrasing) Gendry?
 
The Bran storyline is suddenly so much more interesting after what feels like about 8 seasons of faffing about. Didnt give a shit about it before, but now it (along with Jon Snow) is one of the major story arcs I am looking forward to this season.

Jon Snow was predictable of course, but still well done and I frankly I am relieved that things worked out in the 'obvious' way so far with that one. Seemed the most reasonable/logical conclusion from 'day one'.

Im not too fussed about Ramsey, Theon or the Iron Islands right now, nor another season of Dany pissing about; it seems like after 5 seasons she is basically back to square one, being towed along a big Dothraki Khalasar. Honestly from season one where great things were expected, her story has been probably the worst for me in terms of how it has come along.

The Arya storyline I am a bit disappointed in. After the majority of last season where it was coming along nicely, I have to say I am really not a fan of her becoming blind and being (temporarily) kicked out onto the streets etc.

As for Dorne, lets just say if it went the way of Gendry I dont think anyone would be too bothered. On a side note it seems strange that we havent seen Bronn whatsoever - just a parting shot of him getting off the boat, getting paid and riding off would do, but they seem to have forgotten about his existence completely.
 
Khaleesi has lost her fleet, two of her cities and is prisoner of the Dothraki, I wouldn't be at all surprised if she never gets off Essos and maybe just settles for that as her kingdom. Her absence and the lack of Dorne really benefitted the episode.

We haven't seen Littlefinger for about half a season now I don't think, the last time we saw him he said he had the gift of a 'handsome young man' for Olenna, could he have come across (phrasing) Gendry?
His 'gift' was the guy that testified against Cercie that got her thrown in jail.

And if Blondie stays in Essos and doesn't figure into the end-game (vis a vis the White Walkers and the Iron throne), then they would have wasted like a third of the show's budget. Don't think that'll happen.
 
Poor Cina has his work cut out trying to police this thread :lol:
 
Funny how Sansa hated Jon Snow so much but now she thinks the entirety of her family is dead she turns to him for help. Desperate times eh.

If you think about, the show has only showed a few Starks being killed off. They've not shown Bran, Rickon, Arya, Sansa or Jon being killed (well you know what I mean). Only Robb, Catelyn and Ned dying. I'd love to see them all being united in some way or form.
 
Yeah im expecting Khaleesi and her dragons to come storming in blasting fire at the whitewalkers making it truly fire vs ice, etc. Which would be an awesome visual.
 
His 'gift' was the guy that testified against Cercie that got her thrown in jail.

And if Blondie stays in Essos and doesn't figure into the end-game (vis a vis the White Walkers and the Iron throne), then they would have wasted like a third of the show's budget. Don't think that'll happen.

Ahh damn you're right, I thought she was already locked up for some reason, he must be up to something else dastardly then. Hopefully he and Olenna show up soon.

Well she and her dragons may well play a part in it, but not necessarily as part of an invasion force.
 
Funny how Sansa hated Jon Snow so much but now she thinks the entirety of her family is dead she turns to him for help. Desperate times eh.

If you think about, the show has only showed a few Starks being killed off. They've not shown Bran, Rickon, Arya, Sansa or Jon being killed (well you know what I mean). Only Robb, Catelyn and Ned dying. I'd love to see them all being united in some way or form.
Did Sansa hate Jon? Catelyn did in the first season but I don't think we've ever seen Sansa and Jon together apart from King Robert's arrival at Winterfell.
 
The Bran storyline is suddenly so much more interesting after what feels like about 8 seasons of faffing about. Didnt give a shit about it before, but now it (along with Jon Snow) is one of the major story arcs I am looking forward to this season.

Jon Snow was predictable of course, but still well done and I frankly I am relieved that things worked out in the 'obvious' way so far with that one. Seemed the most reasonable/logical conclusion from 'day one'.

Im not too fussed about Ramsey, Theon or the Iron Islands right now, nor another season of Dany pissing about; it seems like after 5 seasons she is basically back to square one, being towed along a big Dothraki Khalasar. Honestly from season one where great things were expected, her story has been probably the worst for me in terms of how it has come along.

The Arya storyline I am a bit disappointed in. After the majority of last season where it was coming along nicely, I have to say I am really not a fan of her becoming blind and being (temporarily) kicked out onto the streets etc.

As for Dorne, lets just say if it went the way of Gendry I dont think anyone would be too bothered. On a side note it seems strange that we havent seen Bronn whatsoever - just a parting shot of him getting off the boat, getting paid and riding off would do, but they seem to have forgotten about his existence completely.

Agreed. Jon Snows revival was the most important thing in this episode, and I can't wait for the next episode now! Ramsey is just confirming again that he's a pshychopathic coldhearted bastard with no feelings at all. Gonna be interesting to see what'll happen with Arya next too.
 
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Completely forgot about Theon's dad & sister. Not sure how they will fit in or who the uncle is.

The religious police in King's Landing is annoying me. Surely they can release the King's army & Franken-Mountain to slaughter them all and crush any rebellion before it starts.

Delighted Jon is back, as expected. Thought the scene was played well. The Wildlings & Jon make a formidable team, shame Stanis isn't around any more.

Also happy they didn't prolong Arya's training. Want to see her story progress more this season.

And poor Daenerys... lost basically 3 seasons worth of effort.
 
Did Sansa hate Jon? Catelyn did in the first season but I don't think we've ever seen Sansa and Jon together apart from King Robert's arrival at Winterfell.
I think she did, may be wrong. In the first season she seemed to hate everyone anyway.
 
The religious police in King's Landing is annoying me. Surely they can release the King's army & Franken-Mountain to slaughter them all and crush any rebellion before it starts.
Tommen was too much of a pussy to do it early last season, and now they've weedled their way into the centres of power. With Cersei back holding the reins, I'd expect a massive battle sooner rather than later. Someone needs to do something about their creeping Sharia.

Btw, I loved the bit when Tommen asked Cersei to tell him what to do. It was a full on sploosh moment for her.
 
Tommen was too much of a pussy to do it early last season, and now they've weedled their way into the centres of power. With Cersei back holding the reins, I'd expect a massive battle sooner rather than later.

Hope so. It seems almost a filler story for King's Landing. I'm expecting Dorne will attackso there should be a battle involving the Lannisters at some point.
 
Enjoyed the ep again, much better than season 5 so far. I'm quite bored of Ramsey but I did not expect him to kill his dad so that was a surprise. I expect Cersei with the Mountain will take back full control of Kings Landing at some point, predicting a grisly end for the high sparrow. Was also expecting Ghost to be sacrificed for JS to come back, I'm hoping there's some kind of cost and Mel can't just chant a few words, cut some hair off and revive who she pleases.
 
Enjoyed the ep again, much better than season 5 so far. I'm quite bored of Ramsey but I did not expect him to kill his dad so that was a surprise. I expect Cersei with the Mountain will take back full control of Kings Landing at some point, predicting a grisly end for the high sparrow. Was also expecting Ghost to be sacrificed for JS to come back, I'm hoping there's some kind of cost and Mel can't just chant a few words, cut some hair off and revive who she pleases.

Fairly sure that was not it. It was her "please" that did the trick. When she really was begging and praying for it. The only thing which was probably genuine.
 
Enjoyed the ep again, much better than season 5 so far. I'm quite bored of Ramsey but I did not expect him to kill his dad so that was a surprise. I expect Cersei with the Mountain will take back full control of Kings Landing at some point, predicting a grisly end for the high sparrow. Was also expecting Ghost to be sacrificed for JS to come back, I'm hoping there's some kind of cost and Mel can't just chant a few words, cut some hair off and revive who she pleases.
It didn't seem to cost Dennis Pennis anything a few seasons ago. But I do agree with you. I want there to be a point to Jon Snow's death.

I don't buy the whole 'free from his vows' thing. He's already munched on ginger minge, so it's not like he's taken his vows seriously the whole time. In fact, the reasoning behind allowing the Wildlings through was that it was a way to protect 'the realms of men' - there's plenty of wiggle room if he wants it. There are loads of ways he could get around the wording of the oath. For example, Cromwell managed to become Lord Protector in the real world without the need to wear a crown.
 
Enjoyed the ep again, much better than season 5 so far. I'm quite bored of Ramsey but I did not expect him to kill his dad so that was a surprise. I expect Cersei with the Mountain will take back full control of Kings Landing at some point, predicting a grisly end for the high sparrow. Was also expecting Ghost to be sacrificed for JS to come back, I'm hoping there's some kind of cost and Mel can't just chant a few words, cut some hair off and revive who she pleases.
There is. Beric said each time he's been brought back...."I'm a bit less, pieces of you get chipped away."

 
It didn't seem to cost Dennis Pennis anything a few seasons ago. But I do agree with you. I want there to be a point to Jon Snow's death.

I don't buy the whole 'free from his vows' thing. He's already munched on ginger minge, so it's not like he's taken his vows seriously the whole time. In fact, the reasoning behind allowing the Wildlings through was that it was a way to protect 'the realms of men' - there's plenty of wiggle room if he wants it. There are loads of ways he could get around the wording of the oath. For example, Cromwell managed to become Lord Protector in the real world without the need to wear a crown.
Despite some mistakes, Jon is a highly principled fellow. I don't think he will need to 'wiggle' around the oath..."his watch has ended" with his death.

Ramsey is set on killing any competition for the North, as we've already seen. Jon with the Wildlings and Ramsey are on a collision course I believe.
 
I expect Jon to kill all the traitors. I reckon he will have less morals this time round, although still be respected.

Does anyone remember what's happened to Littlefinger?