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Wtf is Brienne doing. She's finally got to Sansa and knows her situation is completely FUBAR, yet just chills outside looking at Winterfell.
I'd be super pissed if she decides to join in the impending battle and kills Stannis while Ramsay gets away scot-free.
I'd be super pissed if she decides to join in the impending battle and kills Stannis while Ramsay gets away scot-free.
How does she know this?
you know what happened last time, don't do this to yourself.
You've forced my hand.
The tortured woman should've been a clue. If you were playing WW with her you'd be like "FFS Antohan"
She knows nothing about the tortured woman though does she or have I missed a scene? I guess you can surmise that she would have been suspicious that the woman hasn't been seen for a while but that's about it.
I spoilered it. If you haven't seen The Never Ending Story by now, that's your fault.
"Turn around...........Look at what you seeeeeeeee"
Not referring to you
no spoilers plx. dont spoil the spoilers and spoiler tag the spoilers in white text because the spoiling will make the unspollied spoiled.
Regarding your spoiler.
Maybe Melisandre is just making shit up about king's blood but I think it's not far fetched that king's blood has special powers when she can conjure a killer shadow from king's cum.
Also, I think king's blood doesn't necessarily only refer to the blood of the family who sits the Iron Throne or has the 'rightful claim' to it.
After all Westeros is also called the Seven Kingdoms. Although I don't think it was mentioned which families ruled those kingdoms before the Targaryens conquered them? Stark, Baratheon, Lannister, Tyrell, Martell and 2 others I guess?
Which makes it possible that she can do stuff with the blood and/or seed of all the noble families which ruled kingdoms formerly?
This would also open up the possibility that she not only wanted to feck Jon Snow to pull him on her side in the game for the Iron Throne but also for his seed because he's a Stark which were the kings in the north.
Also, I think king's blood doesn't necessarily only refer to the blood of the family who sits the Iron Throne or has the 'rightful claim' to it.
After all Westeros is also called the Seven Kingdoms. Although I don't think it was mentioned which families ruled those kingdoms before the Targaryens conquered them? Stark, Baratheon, Lannister, Tyrell, Martell and 2 others I guess?
Which makes it possible that she can do stuff with the blood and/or seed of all the noble families which ruled kingdoms formerly?
This would also open up the possibility that she not only wanted to feck Jon Snow to pull him on her side in the game for the Iron Throne but also for his seed because he's a Stark which were the kings in the north.
She's being held in winterfell at the mercy of the batshit insane bastard belonging to a batshit insane house. Its safe to say that most people would assume her status is somewhat troubling.
That's just your knowledge as a viewer though. Brienne wouldn't know that.
They displayed the tortured woman as a warning to others. If she's not found out she's even more useless than she seems.
Well she presumably knows of the Boltons' role in the white wedding massacre, and that they control winterfell. So if Sansa was in Winterfell then surely she should be able to put 2 and 2 together, unless she's hopelessly thick or aloof.
I think you've answered your own question.
But the point is that she knew all of that before Sansa even went in there and did nothing (because she was told in no uncertain terms to do one). She is waiting for the candle or an explicit signal that she needs help.
Which is quite possibly the stupidest thing I've seen in this show. Oh if you're in trouble and essentially a prisoner at the mercy of a psychotic family, just carry out the simple task of sneaking off, ascending the tallest towers in Winterfell and lighting a candle, I got you bro
Also, what happens if Sansa does manage to light the candle? Is Brienne going to John Rambo all of Winterfell and the occupying Bolton army on her own?
Which is quite possibly the stupidest thing I've seen in this show. Oh if you're in trouble and essentially a prisoner at the mercy of a psychotic family, just carry out the simple task of sneaking off, ascending the tallest towers in Winterfell and lighting a candle, I got you bro
Also, what happens if Sansa does manage to light the candle? Is Brienne going to John Rambo all of Winterfell and the occupying Bolton army on her own?
Touche
Yeah, I'm not clicking that.
And I'm talking more about the whole set up, not just the event. They made it appear that it was all down to being stuck in the snow with a depleting army, just after tugging on the heart strings of viewers with that speech a few eps ago. It was such a huge moment handled so simplistically for me.
So, yeah, more shock than defined plot point imo.
Which is quite possibly the stupidest thing I've seen in this show. Oh if you're in trouble and essentially a prisoner at the mercy of a psychotic family, just carry out the simple task of sneaking off, ascending the tallest towers in Winterfell and lighting a candle, I got you bro
Also, what happens if Sansa does manage to light the candle? Is Brienne going to John Rambo all of Winterfell and the occupying Bolton army on her own?
No, not at all. The reason she was to light the candle was so the bannermen still loyal to the Starks were to rescue her.
Come to think of it - Abraham isn't considered as a bad person? When the binding of Isaac is essentially the same thing as Shireen's burning. The only difference is that no-one here believes in the Lord of Light - when in Westeros he showed that he is real and incredibly powerful.
Same with Agamemnon and Iphigenia.
Same with Agamemnon and Iphigenia.
Abraham is one fecked up dude.
Maybe he would be if he actually killed his son? In the end Isaac wasn't sacrificed, which surely makes a big difference? Abraham passed a test from god, that's it. He also was willing to do it himself to prove his faith and didn't just watch cowardly from the back while a hot priestess he was banging burned his child alive.
This, plus he was killing an adult man and doing it instantly with a blade, instead of burning to death a little girl. Also he had supposedly had contact directly from God rather than just some weird woman whispering it in his ear.
Guys come on, anyone who decides it is a good idea to kill their son because they hear voices telling them to do so is a fecking lunatic.
Seconded
But then God was like "jk lol" and it was all okay!
I don't understand why she's been sacrificed? Is Stannis's woman (whatever she's called...) an actual witch according to the show or just a loopy woman who hears voices in her head(albeit a crazed woman with cracking cans...)?
She's definitely got some sort of power. That demon baby is proof of that. But I don't understand the particulars.
Why would her god want Stannis to sacrifice his daughter in order to gain absolute power? Even Abraham didn't have designs to take over the world...and nor did his creator actually go ahead with the sacrifice of his(Ab's) son (regardless of the story being told by Sumerians/Babylonians/Jews or Muslims). Stannis and his witch's God seems like an utter cnut.
I know you've got no idea but it's clearly something to ponder for a couple of minutes...
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First time I have read the bible it had struck me as unwitty
I think it may start a rumor that the lord has got no humor
I think it may start a rumor that the lord has got no humor
Maybe Shireen didn't really die and she was transformed by the god of light into some sort of ultimate weapon. If that's not the case, I wouldn't mind Stannis getting his head lopped off in the finale.
Couldnt disagree more
It shouldn't. It says more about the God figure itself than about Abraham/Stannis. They were willing to sacrifice their own for the divine will. The specifics of the killing were also due to tradition - Lord of Light demands burning, God demands binding. All those things are just semantics - the fact is - they sacrificed their child for some strange divine request, either they both are lunatics (which is correct), or they both are the heroes that overcome their personal feelings in order to serve the higher power.
In west tradition Abraham is one of the patriarchs, one of the main positive figures in religious history. Because God is all-knowing and his intentions are always right, even if we don't see it - but the Lord of Light is an unknown name for us, so we don't think about the bigger picture. This is hypocritical, imo, we should consider that Lord of Light is a strong figure in Westeros and he shown lots of times that he is capable of creating a miracle.
That's an interesting point @Balu made about actors and their contracts, needing to be in the season even if they're doing nothing.
Daenerys apparently has a contract on the number of times she can get naked, I think that quota was reached, when she was in bed with Daario, she was covering herself with her blanket, we'll probably never see her nude again -- a lot of the nudity has been toned down this season alone actually.
Daenerys apparently has a contract on the number of times she can get naked, I think that quota was reached, when she was in bed with Daario, she was covering herself with her blanket, we'll probably never see her nude again -- a lot of the nudity has been toned down this season alone actually.
That makes it OK then.
Maybe I'd missed it, but is there anything to suggest they are?