I hate the Bolton's.... But I hope they crucify Stanis after that. With barbed wire.
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I'm a little surprised with the reaction to Shireen's burning in this thread, she was a book reader after all.
Seriously, why are people surprised/annoyed? It was coming and you should be used to such behaviour by now
Seriously, why are people surprised/annoyed? It was coming and you should be used to such behaviour by now
The immolation scene was a bit disturbing, but I'm glad the character's gone. She was incredibly one dimensional and hugely cliched. I don't think she was in a single scene where I couldn't guess what she was going to do next.
Myself and the Mrs only started watching this about 2 months ago (and successfully avoided every spoiler going). We managed to catch up just before this season started - a couple of weekends watched 7+ episodes in a row. In direct comparison this season has been underwhelming, aside from last week which was incredibly epic (shat all over Blackwater and Helm's Deep MKII on the wall). But feck me, I was out of my seat when Drogon sailed in - only disappointment was that Tyrion didn't hop on too. Also - Stannis has been developing into one of my favourite characters (Ned Stark constantly sang his praises to say the least) but now he really is indefensible.
Yep that's right. For now I just want Stannis to get crushed.
The thing I dont like about Stannis is that for all his hard man talk, he is basically a coward. He only got rid of Renly by cheating on his wife to sire an evil shadow demon thing to assassinate his brother. And now the telling thing was that his daughter was screaming for her life and he didnt even have the bottle to go up to her, look her in the eye and apologise - or anything. He just stood at the back like a pussy, watching her get burnt alive.
One thing I find interesting is about Melisandre's obsession with kings blood. Yes, she claims it has all sorts of magical powers, and so far she has a decent track record with that sort of stuff - but could it just be some sort of ploy that she is effectively some sort of uber-assassin who is basically destroying everyone in the Baratheon family tree by getting Stannis to sacrifice them? I mean, you can argue that the Baratheons arent even the rightful kings anyway - Dany would certainly have words to say on the subject. Robert Baratheon rebelled against the Targaryans - does that constitute a "rightful" claim to the throne? Maybe. But its just as likely in my opinion that Melisandre could do all of this stuff without kings blood, and is just using it as a way of getting rid of various individuals.
Episode was pretty terrible, Mormont killing his guy with some laughable rolling move just about summed it up. Why did Son's of the Harpy just stand around when they had them surrounded? Then decide to attack 1v1 when they had them outnumbered? Or why did they only decide to start chucking spears when the Dragon showed up, wouldn't have been difficult to take out Khalessi at that point. And what happens now that she's flown off and left Tyrion and co, are we supposed to believe that Sons of the Harpy just walk off and let them all live?
You think? Its not something that has been tested thus far, but given that the Walkers are vulnerable to Dragonglass, and Dragonsteel....I dont think it is a huge leap to say they are probably also susceptible to the Dragons themselves.
With the Sansa stuff I can sort of agree, but I dont think you can have a major event like Stannis burning his own fecking daughter and just skip it. I suspect that if they had not shown it, and then next week in the finale they are talking about it in the past tense, viewers may be a little confused.
Immune to fire, immune to diseases, 3 dragons.
Dany is rocking some hefty plot armour.
I reckon both. They made too big a deal out of Tyrion designing him a saddle back when he was pushed out that window for it to not come up again!
What would the point be in riding a dragon if he could control it from the ground?
Far less vulnerable strapped to the back of a dragon while warging than lying on the ground with your eyes in the back of your head.
The quickest transportation.
Where did we learn that Targaryens are immune to diseases? I don't remember that from the shows?
Also don't remember when we were told in the shows that you have to be touched by an infected body part? Didn't Shireen get hers off a doll?
Loved the episode. Against was built up to that ending brilliantly. I for one am glad Shireen is gone, was getting on my nerves.
I just love that background music they give when the dragon is about to attack. The same was in season 3 when Dany takes over Astapor and Dracarys' the shit out of Kraznys!
I just love that background music they give when the dragon is about to attack. The same was in season 3 when Dany takes over Astapor and Dracarys' the shit out of Kraznys!
That scene was horrible to watch
Worse than the baby drownings in season 1?
You know the harpy are just a bunch of angry average citizens none of them are trained in fighting. When faced with that position of potentially facing death. They shit themselves like any other non solider.
Shorter commute.
Thought that episode was really disappointing after last week's. Nice to see Drogon setting some fecks on fire but apart from that.
As disturbing as the scene was, surely you all knew it was coming? The writing was on the wall that she'd be sacrificed, and it didnt take a genius to work that out.
Yeah me too. I expected this week's episode to be the best one going by the precedence of previous seasons' penultimate episode being the blockbuster. Sadly, I suspect that the white walkers and the Stannis-Bolton battle won't be seen until the next season, and the finale will probably involve that dull Arya and pedo storyline or the tedious Dorne politics.
I don't think there's any more to be done in Dorne now is there? That entire sub plot now seems designed purely to get Jaime out of Kings Landing. Complete waste of screen time.
Maybe we won't get a battle a Stannis/Bolton battle at all either? Depends what that sacrifice conjures up for starters.
Probably not, but you wouldn't have expected anything else from that little sh*t.
Now Stannis was supposed to have a sound character, until now we've only witnessed him as a good dad. It seems he stepped over the line with this decision. And the scene lasted much longer than those baby drowning. I can see where people are coming from when they call for Stannis' death. But it's only a book and I'd still favor Stannis to take over the iron throne. (And am pretty sure that he'll become, even if temporary, the next King.)
I can see the sand snakes stirring stuff up which might drag the episode.
Regarding Stannis, I just want to see if fire bitch delivers after that sacrifice, and if not then it'll be somewhat cathartic watching Stannis burn her too, assuming Ramsey hasn't skinned the cnut by then.
Season 2 you silly swine.
A slight concern with the dragon scene that I had was the situation with the Harpys wasnt exactly settled when she mounted Drogon and took off. Unless we see Drogan melt a load of gold mask bitches next week that will be a little bit of a plot hole.
Yeah, it looks like they created some shit subplot because the actor who plays Jaime is one of the main actors with a contract that forces the show runners to include him in every season.
In a way, I think that's one of the biggest problems of the last 2 seasons. Too much screentime was wasted on main characters from previous seasons doing nothing important, while interesting subplots or smaller characters were underdeveloped and rushed. It's probably impossible to work around it though, because the actors won't commit to the show longterm without knowing they have work every year. Actors need to plan their careers as well and it probably isn't that easy to find different work that fits with the Game of Thrones schedule.
Probably, but their main weapon is fire and the white walkers are not vulnerable to fire as we saw with the one John Snow killed at Hardhome. He literally walked through it.
Maybe the fire from the dragons is different to the ''ordinary'' fire though.
Yeah I guess that's one of the concessions that is part of being a TV franchise rather than a book series.
I'd be sure you have to touch an infected part of that person and in his case its on his forearm which didn't touch either Tyrion or Daenerys.