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I thought the white walker from 'Valar Morghulis' was same one Sam killed using the dragonglass dagger in 'Second Sons'.

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They do look very similar.
 
There clearly are more than 14 walkers tbf. In the season 2 ending the one that Sam saw wasn't the only one, there were others on horses that were leading the wights towards the Wall. The interesting thing with them was that they were different looking than the whole white long hair & white beard look that seems common for the walker generals.

There were also other walkers that can be seen if you pause in some of the last scenes of the last episode.

I think there are more walkers than people seem to think. Obviously they're not as many as the wights, but there are still many. I'm sure that Craster has given them many children to turn and that he wasn't their only source of babies.

I still think the one that raised the dead + the 12 silhouettes that we saw last season in their ice castle are the main walkers and are the leaders of the white hair white beard walkers. Maybe they're equals. It wasn't a coincidence that when there was a close-up of the baby on the altar, the walker with the horns was standing beside the other 12 before he turned the baby. If I had to guess, I'd say that these 13 walkers are the ''ancient'' ones and they're equal, I don't think the ice horns guy is their sole leader even if it may look this way at the moment.

This shot is not a coincidence:

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There clearly are more than 14 walkers tbf. In the season 2 ending the one that Sam saw wasn't the only one, there were others on horses that were leading the wights towards the Wall. The interesting thing with them was that they were different looking than the whole white long hair & white beard look that seems common for the walker generals.

There were also other walkers that can be seen if you pause in some of the last scenes of the last episode.

I think there are more walkers than people seem to think. Obviously they're not as many as the wights, but there are still many. I'm sure that Craster has given them many children to turn and that he wasn't their only source of babies.

I still think the one that raised the dead + the 12 silhouettes that we saw last season in their ice castle are the main walkers and are the leaders of the white hair white beard walkers. Maybe they're equals. It wasn't a coincidence that when there was a close-up of the baby on the altar, the walker with the horns was standing beside the other 12 before he turned the baby. If I had to guess, I'd say that these 13 walkers are the ''ancient'' ones and they're equal, I don't think the ice horns guy is their sole leader even if it may look this way at the moment.

This shot is not a coincidence:

White_Walker_leaders_thirteen_at_temple.jpg

Fully agree with you there. Not sure if some 'King of All' white-walker will turn up later though. They'll probably have to create that character if they want to make the end an ultimate fight of good against evil. We'll need a clear leader of the white-walkers for Jon Snow/ Daenarys to kill :)
 
Can people seriously not grasp the idea of not mentioning the books in here?

This includes people who haven't read them but have 'heard' about things in them and wish to share them in here. Just cause you haven't read them doesn't mean it's alright to fecking mention stuff from them.

It's amazing the amount of posts I still have to delete.
 
Can people seriously not grasp the idea of not mentioning the books in here?

This includes people who haven't read them but have 'heard' about things in them and wish to share them in here. Just cause you haven't read them doesn't mean it's alright to fecking mention stuff from them.

It's amazing the amount of posts I still have to delete.
You should shoot them in the face. We appreciate your protection from these Wildlings.
 
It's not just night scenes that have this problem. The battle at the end was was during the daytime and there was a whole lot of poorly lit shots. I realise they don't always have a lot of daytime hours in Iceland but it really irks me.
I was actually just reading up on it. They were going to shoot that battle scene in Iceland but because of lighting they couldn't so they did it in N-Ireland instead.
 
What an episode. Up there with the best of the entire series. Can't wait for the next two which is probably the first time I've said that this season.

Little late to the party but it's quite clearly vinegar :lol: C'mon guys! The cockney accent gives it away.
 
Wait wait wait...what's the difference between a white walker and a wight?! What's a wight?

@RedSky (sorry).
from the GoT wiki

The White Walkers are a mythological race mentioned in ancient legends and stories from the time of the First Men and the Children of the Forest. Eight thousand years before Robert's Rebellion, a winter known as the Long Night lasted a generation. In the darkness and cold of the Long Night, the White Walkers descended upon Westeros from the farthest north, the polar regions of the Lands of Always Winter. None knew why they came, but they killed all in their path, reanimating the dead as wights to kill the living at their command. Eventually the peoples of Westeros rallied and in a conflict known as the War for the Dawn, they managed to defeat the White Walkers and drive them back into the uttermost north, with the Wall raised to bar their return.

Wights just look like zombified humans with blue eyes where as White Walkers are obviously all blue and icey, they only really share the same blue eyes. Wights can be killed by fire, White Walkers need to be killed by dragonglass/valyrian steel.
 
Loved the episode and it really made more happen in one episode than the previous seven. Even though the last 20 minutes were only about the Snow's fight!

What I don't like is that GOT producers have made this a theme starting from season 3. The first 7 episodes of the season are slow and ponderous (some of it dross). The eighth or ninth episode amaze you and the plot thickens/ changes. The last 1-2 episodes are about the aftermath and new alliances, changing loyalties, and getting viewers exited for the next season. It is getting predictable.

Last season (season 4) didnt follow that formula at all. In fact, didnt Joffreys wedding happen second episode last season?
 
I see the White Walkers as wizards who command the dead, and the Wights are the corpses that they use like puppets. Presumably the magic that the White Walkers have can only be transferred to babies.
 
At this rate it will take just 6 more seasons for Daenerys to actually make it to Kings Landing and do something. Seems like they've just been stalling her story with crap because when she finally does turn up it's going to be end game stuff. Similar to little bran flakes - is he still in a tree ffs?
 
So can anyone kill a Wight? Walking Dead style? Or like the whitewalkers they need dragon glass or whatever to kill them too?
Wights = Puppets who can be killed by Steel and fire.
White Walkers/"The Others" = Ancient race who can only be killed by dragon glass or Valerian steel.
 
At this rate it will take just 6 more seasons for Daenerys to actually make it to Kings Landing and do something. Seems like they've just been stalling her story with crap because when she finally does turn up it's going to be end game stuff. Similar to little bran flakes - is he still in a tree ffs?

Think the producers have said they've been planning with 7 seasons in mind? Even if they extend it a bit there'll still probably only be a few more season for anyone to do anything.
 
7 seasons sounds about right. Winter is already ''here'', so we can expect shit to go down in the next two seasons.
 
Greatest episode ever?

The last 20 minutes I had my jaw dropped so low, it almost hit my balls.
 
Blackwater's still the best. Last season's ep.9 is 2nd for me, can't remember what it's called.
 
Ive liked Snow since the beginning as he just seemed like a good guy but hes become really badass since last season.
 
Why is Sam still fat? Surely all the work and training he's done on the wall would have made him lean and strong by now. And why can't he grow a proper beard ffs