I had to re-watch this episode again just because of you people. I'm with @DouLou on this one.
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he said vinegar and I heard vinegar.
Discussing the important things.
Was it rape or was it not? Yes, since she was forced to.
Was it vinegar or Vanilla? Vinegar
Who choreographed the snakes fight? Kung Fury
What happened to Gendry? He was the rower of Jon Snow's boat during the last scene of ep 8.
Will we ever find out what happened to Benjen? He is the leader of white walkers now
The Benjen-looking White Walker was the one that Jon Snow killed, so that theory has been well and truly debunked.
so benjen stark was killed.
RIP
RIP
The one Jon killed had a longer beard and more sunken eyes.
I still believe in ice zombie Benjen.
He was hungover.
Benjen was a plot device, nothing more unfortunately.
I just watched it again and I'm sure I saw another Benjen looking white walker after Jon killed that one. There is still hope.
A few screen caps:
That's all of them. I still think Jon fought, and killed, the White Walker that rode past Sam in season 2.
The weapon pretty much gives it away that it was the one from season 2.
How would benjen be a white walker though? Arent they only white walkers if they start of as a baby? Wouldnt he be a wight instead?
Also I dont think the white walkers actually saw Sam or he wasnt as close to them as it seemed. if that makes sense.
Also I dont think the white walkers actually saw Sam or he wasnt as close to them as it seemed. if that makes sense.
Good episode all in all. I wouldnt go as far as calling it a contender for "best ever" and all that, but then again I am (to my own surprise) not that big a fan of the extended battle scenes that encompass most of the episode - probably because I enjoy lots of different plotlines and get annoyed when one doesnt get any screentime.
Anyway, clearly there are [at least] two classes of Undead at work here - the White Walkers and the standard Wights. The thing that annoyed me slightly is that presumably the wights are meant to be pretty much mindless undead zombies - yet there were obvious times during that episode (such as with the undead children) where they paused for dramatic effect. Similarly, mindless creatures shouldnt be capable of dodging/avoiding attacks. It seems odd to complain about the level of realism in undead, but there you go...
Was also really hoping the giant would get taken down and we would get to see him raised as an undead giant.
The White Walkers interest me. Do we know or have we estimated how many of them there actually are? In that battle there only appeared to be about 5-6 overall, so clearly they are meant to be the leaders of the undead army. We saw one of them 'created' from a baby as well, so yeah...
Thing is, the undead dont seem to be particularly good with ranged weapons, so I am yet to see how they can possibly counter Dany's dragons. When she arrives, the dragons can literally just destroy the entire undead army with impunity?
Anyway, clearly there are [at least] two classes of Undead at work here - the White Walkers and the standard Wights. The thing that annoyed me slightly is that presumably the wights are meant to be pretty much mindless undead zombies - yet there were obvious times during that episode (such as with the undead children) where they paused for dramatic effect. Similarly, mindless creatures shouldnt be capable of dodging/avoiding attacks. It seems odd to complain about the level of realism in undead, but there you go...
Was also really hoping the giant would get taken down and we would get to see him raised as an undead giant.
The White Walkers interest me. Do we know or have we estimated how many of them there actually are? In that battle there only appeared to be about 5-6 overall, so clearly they are meant to be the leaders of the undead army. We saw one of them 'created' from a baby as well, so yeah...
Thing is, the undead dont seem to be particularly good with ranged weapons, so I am yet to see how they can possibly counter Dany's dragons. When she arrives, the dragons can literally just destroy the entire undead army with impunity?
Yeah he got fcuked up big time, was a great scene. I just think if I enjoyed that scene so much how much I would have enjoyed seeing someone (The Hound?) pound Goffreys annoying little face in. Still slightly annoyed about his death!
I think he's called Thorgen or something? He's definitely one of my favourites too, but worryingly vulnerable for the chop - one of those not-too-big and not-too-small characters who seem quite disposable, hope he doesn't die!
Tormund
Also Vanilla? The feck is wrong with some of you 
It was clearly vinegar
It was clearly vinegarAgreed.
I thought the white walker from 'Valar Morghulis' was same one Sam killed using the dragonglass dagger in 'Second Sons'.
I really hate the lighting in the show. You've got enough budget to buy a few reflectors you utter shits.
'The night is well lit and full of terrors' doesn't really have the same ring to it.
It's not just night scenes that have this problem. The battle at the end was was during the daytime and there was a whole lot of poorly lit shots. I realise they don't always have a lot of daytime hours in Iceland but it really irks me.
They're like every zombie movie ever. You can't win. The sheer number of them is just too much. They throw themselves down mountains. They break through gates using their bodies. They climb houses. They just keep coming and coming and after every battle their numbers are bigger.
Not so scary. There were thousands of wildlings there. Only a handful escaped.
People in this thread have said numerous times that there are hardly any Valyrian steel weaponry. Stannis said in the episode a week ago (or was it two?) when he saw the dragonclass that there is bunch of that stuff at his castle so that's something.
The lead costume designer said that after Sam killed that white walker that they took up wearing armor. The ww he killed wasn't wearing any. So there's that
The 1080p version has hardcoded subtitles. It's vinegar.
Didn't Tyrion say to Danearys in the episode that she was the last Targeryan? If he didn't know, how many others would?
They're meant to be like that by who exactly ? It is a genuine question btw, not a cnutish one. I would think that those creatures are what the author deem them to be, completely mindless or half mindless.
Definitely said vanilla.
Loved the episode and it really made more happen in one episode than the previous seven. Even though the last 20 minutes were only about the Snow's fight!
What I don't like is that GOT producers have made this a theme starting from season 3. The first 7 episodes of the season are slow and ponderous (some of it dross). The eighth or ninth episode amaze you and the plot thickens/ changes. The last 1-2 episodes are about the aftermath and new alliances, changing loyalties, and getting viewers exited for the next season. It is getting predictable.
What I don't like is that GOT producers have made this a theme starting from season 3. The first 7 episodes of the season are slow and ponderous (some of it dross). The eighth or ninth episode amaze you and the plot thickens/ changes. The last 1-2 episodes are about the aftermath and new alliances, changing loyalties, and getting viewers exited for the next season. It is getting predictable.
Murky low light helps with selling the vfx. When it's all to bright it can look computer gamey.
I know that you are talking about the season structure but the shows narrative is anything but predictable, which I think is the most important thing, and that is why I think I keep watching.
I keep coming up with possible arcs in my mind but they never happen.
I sometimes find the Castle Black scenes too dark but the battle was fantastic on my television. Your television and settings on it play a big part.
Yeah I was thinking that. Like how some seemed to miss the clear boats in the background, or not hearing that old man pronounce the g in vinegar.
Dodgy downloads and tv/sound settings, or people going deaf/blind.
Yeah I was thinking that. Like how some seemed to miss the clear boats in the background, or not hearing that old man pronounce the g in vinegar.
Dodgy downloads and tv/sound settings, or people going deaf/blind.
I used to watch the HBO's weekly HD broadcast in India on a great TV. But they just cut off or haze out some scenes in that (i.e. any nudity/graphic killing that's not a part of the plot etc), because its not considered 'suitable for Indian audiences'. I've been forced to download prints, which do make the imagery look much less impressive.
Some of them held and used weaponry, so I would guess they are meant to be at least somewhat capable in combat
Its a very expansive, complex story with so many characters. It would be hard to develop the story without "slow" episodes.
Yes, the entire thing is based on what the writer wants us to see. If he decided to make super intelligent wights, then so be it.
I originally heard Vanilla, now having watched it back, I can only hear Vinegar.
It's #TheDress all over again!
It's #TheDress all over again!
Such a nerd.