Tyrion on meeting the shittiest mother of dragons ever.
Television Game of Thrones (TV) • The watch has ended
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Just watched the first 4 episodes and realised I now have to wait 4 weeks for the next one.
Doh!
Doh!
Get out. Get out and don't come back until then.
I won't spoil anything in this thread. Don't you worry.
Same for me, I'll read the thread without mentioning them. Enjoy the episodes caftards.
You already did. The fact that you're expressing the wait for the next episodes can mean something... and something always means something, therefore it's a spoiler.
Does anybody know where the Lannisters get their money from? They seem to have an endless supply coming out of their arses.
They've got (or had) a massive goldmine.
Didn't they say that they're basically broke now and that they're living off of the perception that they have a lot of money? I think it was when Tywin was in those red tents during some battle (I think it was when Tyrion met Shea?)
Last season Tywin told Cersei that their mines have run dry.
They have gold mines.
It felt like they forgot to dress their characters for this episode, so they just played it naked. Even by Game of Thrones standards there was very little fabric involved.
Didn't they also borrow a ton of cash? Or was that another house?
They need to save money for the special effects!
I was thinking they're in massive debt to the Iron Bank. Same one Stannis went to last season.
Isn't it the crown who have massive debt to the Iron Bank rather than the Lannisters?
It is, and who was responsible for all those loans ...... Petyr Baelish.
Watched the 1st episode, it was quite boring.
In which thread I can discuss comparisons with the book?
EDIT: Fount it, I think.
In which thread I can discuss comparisons with the book?
EDIT: Fount it, I think.
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Yeah I didn't really get his reasoning at all... why would he be seen as a coward for taking the knee? Surely they'd just see it as him doing the right thing for his people? Which is just admirable.
Free folk dont kneel to the southern lords or to anyone.
Well that's just dumb really.
He doesn't (or didn't...) want his people to be used as pawns in a foreign war.
Yeah that and he didn't want to look like a pussy in front of them. Which is understandable. Although personally I'd have sucked his dick rather than be burned alive.
No one looks like a pussy for bending down in front of a king in this world. It's simply a form of respect, something the wildlings are too thick to understand.
As for not being used as pawns, what are they doing right now? Always running away from weird stuff to comes from north of the wall, Stannis was willing to give them citizenship and much better lives than they can dream of living north of the wall.
What the king beyond the wall did was both literally and metaphorically suicidal.
I felt the last episode season 4 seemed a bit rushed with sudden cut-scenes an like the one @PlayerOne mentioned. They have a lot of work to do with filling 10x55minutes with storytelling based on ~2000 pages but the transition between the two scenes could have been smoother. Seemed a bit unnecessary imo
The biggest problem with Season 4 I thought. They need to either double the episode time to 2 hour episodes or have twice the many episodes per season. I felt we just didn't get enough from some characters in Season 4.
Don't the Lannisters owe the Tyrell's a lot of money? Isn't that what funded Tywin's victories in the north and against Stannis post-dragon-fire-Blackwater?
And why the Tyrells were suddenly getting offers of marriage to the king and king's mother.
Not as far as I can remember, I thought Tywin wanted to marry his grandson and daughter off because the Tyrells are "the only family that can rival their wealth" or something and ensure the stability of his empire.
Watching Cersei walk into the church at the start and having a mental blank about who died at the end of last season.
That probably explains Episode 1. Takes 55 minutes to remember everything that happened 40 weeks ago. Then we can move forward....
Stannis should have offered Mance a title like Warden of the North to entice him I reckon.
He didn't have to... he was already being overly generous. (for a Westeros King at least)
He now probably will take the "free folk" and force them to fight for him anyways right? All he has to do is ask their new leader... I doubt whoever is, will want to burn alive.
nice first episode overall.
For a second, I thought it was gonna be Joffrey.
Yeah that makes sense. Maybe the Lannisters are 'getting in to bed' with the Tyrell's to help pay off the debt to the Iron Bank then as their own mines have run dry.
I remember that conversation between Tywin and Cercei that the mines are Etihad.
Feck sake. City will do anything to get around FFP.
That's part of the reason. But Tywin wanted to ally himself with the Tyrell's because they could help fund this war and also help him pay the Iron Bank. It's not just allying himself to them so that he can eliminate them as a threat to his rule, they are even richer than the Lannister's now that their mines are dried up.
As for the Mance Rayder part, that I did not understand. He said it's not about pride, but it sure as hell seemed to me that way. Maybe Mance has some other definition of "pride". As someone here said, what Stannis offered to give was very generous and yet Mance didn't accept for what? It wasn't explained. He knows that the White Walkers will kill every last Wildling and the only chance they have is to get behind that Wall, yet he didn't want to do it.
Not to mention the fact that he probably knows that the new leader that the Wildlings are going to elect probably isn't so stubborn as him and he is going to accept Stannis's offer.... So what did he sacrifice himself for? Absolutely nothing. I mean he might as well not have surrendered when Stannis's first attacked him with his army and went out with a glorious bang instead of dying like this. All in all, that's the only part of the first episode i'm dissapointed with. Mainly because his reasons are unexplained.
Btw, Daenerys bores me. Hope she doesn't get the Iron Throne, but the way that this story is going she probably will.
Hopefully Tyrion improves the Daenerys storyline and brings a balance of comedy with seriousness because yeah, her story is draaaaaging.
That was Stannis and that was how he got his army at the end of season 4.