Clearly not as she read the books.
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Clearly not as she read the books.
It also happened in the TV series so I gave nothing away!!! Otherwise I wouldn't have said anything!!!
She's growing up and becoming wiser to the ways of the world. She's clearly very stifled through fear and for good reason though.
NO book talk!
I suppose during the Battle of the Blackwater she did show some leadership skills and a less self obsessed side to herself, even if her natural response was still to do and say what was expected of her- which attracted Cersei's derision.
Yeah I feel pretty much the same way.
She was a spoiled little prat at the beginning but since she arrived in King's Landing she has been rapidly brought down to earth.
Of course she is now more frightened than everything to find herself in a situation surrounded by enemies, which she once thought to be friends.
I like Sansa as a character and her storyline. It differs wildly from most of the other members of her family and you can sympathise with her because she went into her situation with lots of family backing her up and has ended up more alone and separated than any of them.
I can't believe after all the warnings and the bloody title of the thread that we're still getting book talk for feck sake.
Great episode I thought, the Khaleesi bits were good, I'm guessing after looting that city of all its soldiers she's going to attack it herself the little minx. She seemed to like that translator girl too, maybe wishful thinking though.
Arya continues to steal scenes, I'm not even sure she is a particularly good actress at times but she just has a pep that makes her extremely watchable.
The thing with the horses was pretty grim, I'm looking forward to seeing the white walkers in action.
A glimpse of honour from Jaime for probably the first time in the series when he saved oafette from the raping and then that happens, ouch.
I'm starting to find Catelyn a bit tiresome but the view from the window she used to look out of was breathtaking.
I'll be sad to see littlefinger leave king's landing because he's a great stirrer between all the big powers.
We need more Charles Dance.
Great episode I thought, the Khaleesi bits were good, I'm guessing after looting that city of all its soldiers she's going to attack it herself the little minx. She seemed to like that translator girl too, maybe wishful thinking though.
Arya continues to steal scenes, I'm not even sure she is a particularly good actress at times but she just has a pep that makes her extremely watchable.
The thing with the horses was pretty grim, I'm looking forward to seeing the white walkers in action.
A glimpse of honour from Jaime for probably the first time in the series when he saved oafette from the raping and then that happens, ouch.
I'm starting to find Catelyn a bit tiresome but the view from the window she used to look out of was breathtaking.
I'll be sad to see littlefinger leave king's landing because he's a great stirrer between all the big powers.
We need more Charles Dance.
Did anyone else find the Margaery and Joffrey talk about Renly liking lots of bum sex in episode 2 a bit cringey? I don't think they really needed it. We all know what his preferences were, that was just over-kill.
Yes. Guess they needed to explain why they never consummated the marriage, but that part of the scene was cringe.
I can't believe after all the warnings and the bloody title of the thread that we're still getting book talk for feck sake.
Great episode I thought, the Khaleesi bits were good, I'm guessing after looting that city of all its soldiers she's going to attack it herself the little minx. She seemed to like that translator girl too, maybe wishful thinking though.
Should be in spoilers
But seriously, I never thought about her attacking it herself. What would be the gain though? Also, there wouldn't actually be anyone to attack would there? Because they'll have taken all their army, would they not? And she doesn't want to kill innocents.
Arya continues to steal scenes, I'm not even sure she is a particularly good actress at times but she just has a pep that makes her extremely watchable.
Agreed. Her story is one of best too because she's on the move so much. (TWD, take note!)
The thing with the horses was pretty grim, I'm looking forward to seeing the white walkers in action.
A glimpse of honour from Jaime for probably the first time in the series when he saved oafette from the raping and then that happens, ouch.
Again goes with the theme someone else mentioned of never coming out on top if you're the good guy
I'm starting to find Catelyn a bit tiresome but the view from the window she used to look out of was breathtaking.
She's definitely one of the more boring characters. I liked her when she was throwing her authority around earlier on but she doesn't have much where she is now.
I'll be sad to see littlefinger leave king's landing because he's a great stirrer between all the big powers.
There's not much more can be done with him around there though is there? It'll be interesting seeing him out of his comfort zone.
We need more Charles Dance.
Who?
I feel like there's loads to reply in this so I've done that gimpy thing of doing it in the quote itself.
Good episode.
Liked the bits with Daenerys, much better this season than last. There needs to be more Arya and less of her mother.
Poor Jamie thought he was getting somewhere and then that happened
I wish these episodes were longer or there were more than 10 in the season.
Liked the bits with Daenerys, much better this season than last. There needs to be more Arya and less of her mother.
Poor Jamie thought he was getting somewhere and then that happened
I wish these episodes were longer or there were more than 10 in the season.
How many seasons can we expect?
Wonder if they will carry on past the books (I haven't read them) or have a spin off (Tyrion, anyone?)
Wonder if they will carry on past the books (I haven't read them) or have a spin off (Tyrion, anyone?)
Isn't there five books? Im not sure if the author is still writing anymore. Its going to be hard after they have covered the books, as in to go beyond the books with their own story.
I read somewhere that he is writing the next couple so he's less involved with the TV show but I've not checked to confirm if this is true as I want to avoid book spoilers.
Should be in spoilers
But seriously, I never thought about her attacking it herself. What would be the gain though? Also, there wouldn't actually be anyone to attack would there? Because they'll have taken all their army, would they not? And she doesn't want to kill innocents.
Damnit I re-read what I'd written 3 times thinking I'd fecked up
Well she seems to have been really offended by the treatment of the people of the city, killing babies, crucifixions etc so she may feel it's her moral duty to save them like she has shown in the past. Plus she won't want to lose a dragon, they're her babies afterall.
Agreed. Her story is one of best too because she's on the move so much. (TWD, take note!)
The difference in quality is so ridiculous, people always moan about TWD budget but the writing lets it down so much more, if they had anyone half as entertaining as Arya the internet smarks would cut it some slack.
Again goes with the theme someone else mentioned of never coming out on top if you're the good guy
Yeah it's certainly one of the defining themes of the show, it leaves me not trusting anybody though, I'm expecting Robb to face some questions of conscience as he gains more power. It's great to see characters who are not neccessarily good or evil though but adapt and evolve to their surroundings, so uncommon for mainstream TV & Film.
She's definitely one of the more boring characters. I liked her when she was throwing her authority around earlier on but she doesn't have much where she is now.
Yeah she is much more interesting when she has a back bone and I liked the bits with her having Tyrion as a prisoner earlier on in the series (even if her actions were a little stupid) but her moping is such a change of pace for the show it jars at times, perhaps a neccessary evil though.
There's not much more can be done with him around there though is there? It'll be interesting seeing him out of his comfort zone.
Aye he is due a change of scenery. He is a walking, talking shenanigan machine though so I'm guessing it'll be fun whatever he does. Hopefully he takes Ros with him, they have very good chemistry.
Who?
Tywin.
Now you've made me a gimp too.
I refuse to quote again.
Yeah, I forgot about the dragon. She'll have two small dragons and a massive army to take the city and her other dragon back
Also, if she finds out off her new mate what that fella was really saying she'll be pissed. No way to speak to a future queen and all that.
As for Tywin. I think there's probably just enough of him for me. There's definitely more interesting stories to focus on, I reckon.
Yeah, I forgot about the dragon. She'll have two small dragons and a massive army to take the city and her other dragon back
Also, if she finds out off her new mate what that fella was really saying she'll be pissed. No way to speak to a future queen and all that.
As for Tywin. I think there's probably just enough of him for me. There's definitely more interesting stories to focus on, I reckon.
I suspect she understands Valyrian language too, but pretends dumb in front of the slaver just so that she can get a better sense of who she's dealing with. My clues: she understood what the crucified slave said, and she also knew what "Valar Morghulis" meant even though it might be the first time she came across it in the show as far as I can tell.
I thought that too last night when the slave trader was speaking. It seemed like she understood everything but was staying quiet and playing dumb.
I think that when she gets the slave army, she'll give the dragon to the slave trader but then order it to kill him, as revenge for all the insults. She is ''mother'' to them after all, so I don't think it'll disobey her.
With Catelyn I think her character fits right into the realistic approach the series takes. If you think about it her world has suddenly imploded on itself: her husband has had his head cut off after leaving against her best judgement; Her oldest son is in a war where he could be killed at any moment, is very displeased with her and made her a prisoner; her two daughters are hostages of the south who the North is at war; her two younger sons are reported to be killed, hung and burned along with their home and finally her own father has just passed away when she could use someone to lean on. Im not surprised shes lost her backbone considering all that's happened!
I don't think "a change of pace" quite accurately describes what G.R.R.M. was trying to convey with her character, even if her story is boring compared to the others.
Its pretty obvious that she is going to use the army and her dragons to take back everything she traded
Daenerys was clearly disgusted with everything about that place. She has shown a strong aversion to slavery since S1. I think that she will destroy the place and take back her dragon sooner rather than later.
Yeah agree with you lads. I hope he burns them all and gets her dragon back.
Yeah would accept this. No clue if Septa Mordane would be that concerned with Jon being a bastard though since she's a religious s....Wait of course she would be. *trails off before religion talk*
And then be dumbfounded when she has caused the death of innocents.
Good episode, was gutted when Daenerys agreed to give up one of her dragons 
Surely after the shit that guy was giving her (making it a good excuse to kill him later) she will return and take it back at some point!
Surely after the shit that guy was giving her (making it a good excuse to kill him later) she will return and take it back at some point!
Good episode, was gutted when Daenerys agreed to give up one of her dragons
Surely after the shit that guy was giving her (making it a good excuse to kill him later) she will return and take it back at some point!
Future plot speculation about Dany's plotline
All her dragons are like her children, but that dragon is her favourite. There is 0% chance they she will leave it behind.
She can order the troops she bought to kill only certain people and not kill the innocents, that's partly why she wanted them so badly.
I thought she understood what was being said as well, and hopefully does some ass kicking in the next episode.
Poor Jamie! I didn't see that happening at all! Was very well done as it was the first time he showed that he's not a complete cnut and I thought there would be a bit of a role shift coming up for him, and them bam!
I watched about twenty minutes of this the other night because my girlfriend was watching it in the same room... and I honestly couldn't see what the fuss was about. The CGI was terrible, causing most of the scenes to look really fake, and whatsmore nothing happened of note. Nothing. It was twenty minutes of people waffling at each other, and not even intelligent waffling like the West Wing!
Well that's because you know absolutely nothing of the story, so you don't understand anything that's happening. You could say about any show if you watch 20 random minutes in the middle of an episode at the start of a new season that it's a shit show or something. If you want to see what the fuss is about, watch it from the start, and give it a few episodes because it is arguably the best tv show ever (up there with Spartacus for me).
Well that's like your opinion... man..
First of all, it's not something you can watch a random 20 mins of and understand what's going on. Secondly, the CGI is great for a TV show, if you are so superficial that you need better CGI watch a Hollywood blockbuster. Thirdly, most people who actually have a clue what's what think there is possibly too much going on at the moment, maybe you just don't get the context of the waffling so it sounds empty?
First of all, it's not something you can watch a random 20 mins of and understand what's going on. Secondly, the CGI is great for a TV show, if you are so superficial that you need better CGI watch a Hollywood blockbuster. Thirdly, most people who actually have a clue what's what think there is possibly too much going on at the moment, maybe you just don't get the context of the waffling so it sounds empty?
What was the CGI? Can't say I've ever noticed it although there will obviously be a fair bit.
My gf's face when Jaime's hand got hacked
Unlike you to moan about stuff
If you are going to jump into any show randomly it will seem like nothing is happening.
What was your issue with the CGI?
Not much talk about Theon Greyjoy, he was lucky to escape. That guy with the arrows was pretty shit hot!.
Made me proper laugh "im going to bum you into the dirt!"
Made me proper laugh "im going to bum you into the dirt!"
Unlike you to moan about stuff
If you are going to jump into any show randomly it will seem like nothing is happening.
What was your issue with the CGI?
I think that these super HD televisions make films look shit. I hate watching stuff on my folks TV, the picture is so brilliant that everything looks weird and artificial in some way.
I also watched the first two seasons on DVD and I can't stand watching it on Sky. They have four bloody ad breaks! I am going to have to DL the full episodes from PB a couple of days after.
Can anyone suggest/recommend a good GoT podcast to listen to? Just did a search and it seems theres loads out there... anyone got a tried and trusted one?
I still find Peter Dinklage's accent fecking stupid.
Unlike you to moan about stuff
If you are going to jump into any show randomly it will seem like nothing is happening.
What was your issue with the CGI?
Perhaps it was just the bit I saw.
There was some blonde woman on a boat with loads of what looked like barbarians, and a couple of dragons. The dragons looked pretty cool, but the boat itself and the sea looked quite terrible.
Then it cut to some woman in red being a bitch, and she just wound some guy up until he got hauled off, and then finally it cut to a woman getting out of a carriage and going into a temple and talking inanely to some kid for ages. Thing is, neither herself nor the kid were capable of acting. That scene was cringeworthy. I forget the rest because it made no impact on me whatsoever!
My main problem was with the CGI, though. What's wrong with actually building and making sets nowadays? All of the backgrounds (the boat, the sea, the inside of the temple) were so artifically-brilliant and over-saturated. The people were in normal tones and colours but the backgrounds were practically glowing; it looked disappointingly fake.
I get that this is a really popular TV show, and my girlfriend loves it (that said, she loves Wheel of Time too, which is hardly known for its excessive quality), but it just didn't grab me whatsoever. The impression I got from friends who love the series (in both its formats), too, was that GRRM is a bit Tarantino-esque in that he uses the like Tarantino does; as a vessel for his love of sadistic torture porn.