Loved the Obertan magic on Ivanovic near the end!!!! He would have been great if he was coming through whilst Ronaldo was still here.. Seems like our lack of flair will make us anxious for him to be pushed through. To be fair to him though he seems very confident in his ability.
Gabriel Obertan | 2009/10 Performances
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Eh?
always cut in onto his right foot when on the left wing, noticed it today and against moscow
this thread needs a gif of his stepover-type move towards the end on the lefthand side of their penalty box, was knocked out for a corner. it was rad.
Shock horror, a right footed player cutting inside on the left. Where have we seen something like that before? Here's a clue, both Ronaldo and Messi do it as well. In fact, playing in an advanced right position, Messi absolutely loves cutting in onto his left after feinting the defender.
In a squad where Valencia is a starting winger, Obertan is certainly not to be considered one-footed or predictable in his wingplay
Didnt have much time to shine. But his build up play looked promising. Still need to see how much end product and goal threat he can produce. Im sure there will be more opportunities and we can evaluate his potential further.
I'm encouraged simply due to the fact that Fergie sent him on in the hope of changing one of the toughest and most important games of the season instead of the likes of Nani and Scholes. The belief in him is certainly there, and he's clearly got a fair amount of ability.
He didn't have much time to impress today, but he still showed signs of being a potentially class player.
He didn't have much time to impress today, but he still showed signs of being a potentially class player.
I like what I see.
I'll reserve judgement
We have yet to see him cross a ball. In fact we have yet to see much from him apart from the ability to run at the full back then pass the ball to someone else.
early days
We have yet to see him cross a ball. In fact we have yet to see much from him apart from the ability to run at the full back then pass the ball to someone else.
early days
It's early days for sure but the signs are there. Gonna be a star in my opinion.
How effective has that been though! Every time he's been on the pitch, things happen down his flank
I didn't think he should feature today, I didn't fancy him up against Chelsea away yet. But he looked the part, no doubt about that, during his short time on there
If Nani just did the thing you've underplayed there, he'd be twice the player
From his delivery on a corner it seems like he has a decent technique of striking the ball. He shouldn't have much problems crossing it from the flank, although personally i would prefer he run directly into the box or drive in a low cross.
Seen him whip in a good corner today. Then one poor one.
So you're right, we should reserve judgement, but theres nothing wrong with saying that what he has shown so far is good.
His corners looked good and his direct play and movement looked much better then what i've seen of Valencia this season, i would like to see him start from the off in our next league game
Exactly.
This whole "passing to another player" (on your own team) is actually quite a crucial part of playing football.
In one of the United magazines Fergie said that Giggs will be moved to the middle of the field later on this season. He said that he s currently playing there because it's early in the season and he s still "fresh"
This means that someone else will have to fill the left-wing slot and the choice is mainly between Obertan, Nani and Park.
This means that someone else will have to fill the left-wing slot and the choice is mainly between Obertan, Nani and Park.
What's great to see is how involved he's been straight away in all of his cameos.
I like Obertan from what I have seen so far, which is very very little. Presumably that's a good thing then. He has more pure skill than Ronaldo and Nani put together. What he did yesterday to go past their right back was sweet as. If he can work on his finishing I think he's going to be a real find.
'tried to look at it in a positive way', 'my first real injury' - I know they're coached but this geezer is obviously intelligent with a cracking attitude.
No need. Rather than cross the ball, from a typically crossing position Obertan will instead beat the first defenderon the wing, then drive straight into the box. Where he will bamboozle a second man before playing a pass directly to the feet of a dangerously-placed teammate. Much better than crossing.
I would go so far as to say that Obertan > crossing.
that's what I call a monumental understatement.
I was hoping for a green smilie, as it happens, but kind of assumed it would be from someone who actually got the joke
Good interview.. Can't wait to see more of him in the coming weeks... I would like to see him play with the regulars more.. Ofcourse with the B team as well in the CC matche against Spurs coming up or the 2 CL matches we have left.. But I would much prefer to see him playing alongside the regulars.. I think that will kick him on further..
Hopefully Obertan will start the two remaining Champions League group games, the Carling Cup tie against Spurs and perhaps a few of the premiership matches before the new year. It's not clear to me whether he's worthy of a starting place for big games in the 2nd half of this season but he might be.
Very good early signs from Obertan, the most impressive being he seems to have a good footballing brain.
My only concern with him is playing in a 4-4-2 you have to be fairly disciplined in terms of your defensive duties and at this stage he doesn't seem to be.
My only concern with him is playing in a 4-4-2 you have to be fairly disciplined in terms of your defensive duties and at this stage he doesn't seem to be.
If anyone's going to be criticised for being indirect and having poor movement it's Nani, not Valencia.
Hey i wont argue Nani is erratic but at least he tried forward balls, Valencia always looks back if he isnt in his 'knock the ball to the touchline and cross the ball' position, there was even a 1-2 at the box to play Anderson in and he opts to pass back to Carrick/Giggs
You know this whole 'knock the ball to the touchline and cross the ball' is actually quite a direct technique.
Being indirect isn't a problem for Valencia IMHO.
True but when's the last time his delivered a fed-x ball or even a decent assist from it? We haven't got the player for that type of play even if we did you would find him to be pretty wasteful...
neither is evra and everyone loves him.
Yes but Evra is Jesus, Mohammed and God rolled into one
I was hoping for a green smilie, as it happens, but kind of assumed it would be from someone who actually got the joke
i did.
I believe that's what wingers do when they have the ball in the wing, especially if that's their main attribute, they should sometimes cut into the center, true, but it's not always the best option when they have the ball since most of the times they would have to beat more than 2 rivals to get into a scoring position. I'm beggining to think most people here assume all wingers have to be like Ronaldo.
I also wonder why he passes it back for Neville to cross it, since Neville is a terrible crosser and O'shea has never produced a single goal from his crosses.
It must be said that he often has two rivals infront when he passes the ball back to the fullback (who is in great position to cross). Or what? Should he try a step over and cross it himself even if he ain't in the best position to do it and the fullback is?
Well Neville set up a goal from a cross against cska and oshea set one up against Sunderland and thats only the last couple of weeks
What the feck? Seriously, what the feck?
I think it is. I feel the one thing holding him back is his lack of variety. If he was a great crosser of the ball and did that everytime I don't think anyone would complain. But his crosses don't seem to have that loop to them, their either smashed in the general direction of the striker or dinked in the general area. If he could become a crosser in the league of an Ashley it would work much much better.
Even so IMO he needs to add some variety to his game. It's all very predictable. And while you'll never come away from a big game thinking how useless he was, he doesn't look like he'll ever stand out in them either. And I think he's better than that. With his pace he should be impacting games more.
But yes I do like that he's solid, quick and physically strong. He has a lot of things going for him too.
As for Obertan, there's something I like about him. There's something I 'feel' he has that our other wingers (apart from Giggsy when on form) don't. There's an ease when he's on the ball and his movement has impressed me. It's such a huge bonus when a winger has good movement.
'I got a feeling'
'I got a feeling'
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