Gabriel Obertan | 2009/10 Performances
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Got a couple, was hoping there would be an explosion of Nani induced rage but it was not to be. Like I've said in other threads the lad shows a lot of promise, but it is far to early to judge him on anything. He's looked much more impressive in the reserves, and for the record of course Sir Bobby would have buried it!
He was neither a legend in the making nor a disaster based on that league debut. But he did excite me because he had pace, was adventurous and took up some very decent positions.
If he carries on working hard I think he could do very well for us, but it's clear that he's a bit rusty having not played for a while, bar Barnsley and reserve action.
Overall I was happy with what I saw and if nothing else it might give a few others a kick up the backside because I think our play in too many games at Old Trafford this season has been laboured and casual. Yes, it was a 20 minute appearance with the game more stretched and yes he should have scored, but he still gave it his all and looked like he wanted to prove something.
If he carries on working hard I think he could do very well for us, but it's clear that he's a bit rusty having not played for a while, bar Barnsley and reserve action.
Overall I was happy with what I saw and if nothing else it might give a few others a kick up the backside because I think our play in too many games at Old Trafford this season has been laboured and casual. Yes, it was a 20 minute appearance with the game more stretched and yes he should have scored, but he still gave it his all and looked like he wanted to prove something.
i thought he was very decent. i suggest a few lads would want to take the tv remotes from thier hands when writing posts on here. i sit in the front lower strettie, just to the right of the goals and got to see him up close.
his positional sense was excellent, constantly playing on the last man and doing what alot of wingers dont do - getting wide and taking on his man, making him defend.
dare i say, united were better in the lat 20 minutes with him on the pitch. he missed a sitter, so what? united generally miss sitters in every game. he played a part in the goal and also owens chance and overall, im very pleased with his debut.
had Owen swung his boot on the chance and not him, people would be lauding him, saying how class he was, and not defining his whole performance on one miss.
his positional sense was excellent, constantly playing on the last man and doing what alot of wingers dont do - getting wide and taking on his man, making him defend.
dare i say, united were better in the lat 20 minutes with him on the pitch. he missed a sitter, so what? united generally miss sitters in every game. he played a part in the goal and also owens chance and overall, im very pleased with his debut.
had Owen swung his boot on the chance and not him, people would be lauding him, saying how class he was, and not defining his whole performance on one miss.
Good post, I sit in the family stand and I agree with what you stay .I really fancy him to be a big player
As already been said, you it's hard to judge a players ability when he's placed on the pitch with 20 minutes to go with a defense thats been run ragged for the entire game. He had a promising debut, but we really need to see how he performs from a start, unless of course you see him as an impact player.
Nani played in a somewhat diffrent game. when Oberatan came in Rovers gave us more space and time due to their looking for a goal.
Good post ruined by the I go to games, you don't so I know better attitude shown at the start.
His movement looked good and that is promising as was his willingness to continually show for the ball and not go hiding after the miss. It was a terrible miss though and he does look a little clumsy when dribbling as if he's never sure what way he's going or what he's doing.
As Obertans number one fan, I was exstatic to see him bought on. He looked incredible and his pace and flair were there for all to see. I feel bad that the penalty area had so many divots so his original shot was missed, and it was nice of him to feel bad for the Blackburn team by missing this shot from Valencias cross. Overall 10/10 MOTM player of the month.
He was average at best really though wasn't he? I mean he fluffed two chances and beat one man in the box and thats about all I remember from him.
I'm not meaning to sound mean or anything but he didn't really show us anything in the 30 minutes he had against Blackburn and I think one or two people are getting a little carried away with themselves.
I'm not meaning to sound mean or anything but he didn't really show us anything in the 30 minutes he had against Blackburn and I think one or two people are getting a little carried away with themselves.
It was a poor debut. It'd be RAWK levels of delusion to say any different. He was so scared he was shaking, and it's a deep contrast from Ronaldo's debut for example, where we saw a player who never had any doubts that he belonged on the big stage.
Obertan will be better in the coming games, but it was not a good start for him.
The bottom line with regard to his league debut is that anybody drawing any conclusions from it is a bit of a muppet.
Because he was cheap
As others have pointed out, you don't need to judge a player purely by what they do when they're in possession of the ball.
We've seen at reserve level that he's much better on the ball than what we saw against Blackburn. What we saw in this game was how good he is when he doesn't have the ball. His movement was excellent, a class above the player he replaced.
One thing I've noticed in all his appearances so far (including his interview in fluent English) is that his massive cranium has been put to good use. He seems to be a very intelligent footballer, in every meaning of the word.
Fixed that for you.
thirty fecking minutes people, jesus christ, nobody should evaluating him until he plays some substantial minutes
christ whats the fecking point in this place if we cant discuss one of our players competitive debuts? He was clearly shitting himself but contrary to some peoples opinions i think it was a more positive than negative debut. I like the look of him SO FAR.
100%. There should be no issue with saying he played well or played badly in this game. It's only stupid if you extrapolate (ooh, fancy word!) it out to say he's going to a useless or brilliant signing.
- as opposed to?
His other dribbles, his off the ball movement and his quick feet?
Don't worry, you need to understand football to notice things like that.
Fair enough, but a class above is a bit far fetched don't you think? He didn't really do anything special, not to mention the game was more stretched when Obertan came on anyway.
I'm not trying to stop people discussing, I was merely pointing out that I think some people got a bit over excited.
Referring to his movement, I would say it was definitely a class above the player he replaced.
Brwned summed up the difference very well earlier on. Obertan runs into space, Nani runs towards the ball.
I feel I must point out, that there's a big difference between playing aganst Blackburn at 0-0 and while being a goal or two ahead.
Is he any good on FIFA 10?
He should be 85/100 easily.
He should be 85/100 easily.
0:23: "Pat Evra was just behind me to encroach me."
Thing is though, the kick had no placement and no power. At least Diego used one or the other for his misses.
With a shot you either go for the placement in which case he should of placed in in the corner or power, in which case he should of smashed it before Robinson was able to recover and get himself into a position to make the save.
He tapped it forward.
That's what he did. He tried to place it and put it about 6 inches past the post.
It was a poor miss but it would be mental to put it on the same level as this...
I'll have to have a look in his next outing then as I didn't see anything that showed he's a class above Nani.
If he'd have got it on target he'd have score (the side footer). Are we talking about the same chance? I'm talking about the one owen left and he scuffed by the post
Reading that I think we're talking about different chances davisjw
The man has tremendous pace i'd give you that. For some reason he made me giggle when he was on the ball.
The commentator was creaming himself about Obertan maybe that partially caused my giggling.
I liked the way he created spaces and was open to passes most of the time. We need more than a few minutes on the pitch to gauge the lad. He's not upto full fitness from what i've read in the reserve forum.
Nervousness+Fitness issues= Bambi on Ice display. We need to see him more till we call him a Bellion or a Henry.
As for the League Debut, i'd give him a 5/6 out of 10 for his efforts.
The commentator was creaming himself about Obertan maybe that partially caused my giggling.
I liked the way he created spaces and was open to passes most of the time. We need more than a few minutes on the pitch to gauge the lad. He's not upto full fitness from what i've read in the reserve forum.
Nervousness+Fitness issues= Bambi on Ice display. We need to see him more till we call him a Bellion or a Henry.
As for the League Debut, i'd give him a 5/6 out of 10 for his efforts.
He's actually 68/100
I think he looked better than Henry.
I heard "encourage", albeit with a decidedly French accent. Speaks English quite well.0:23: "Pat Evra was just behind me to encroach me."
I was joking!
im thinking more zidane
Oh, I was talking about the one where he scuffed it and sent it straight at Robinson. Hope my memory isn't going that poorly where I'm now making up goal attempts
according to some posters there is no difference whatsoever
To be honest i have no faith in your ability to judge talent... Don't bother come back with an opinion in the next outing... It wont mean much!! When he drops a couple step overs and nut megs his opposition you can tell us how much better he is than Nani....
Anyway... If we get it right with this guy, we've got a reall good player!! I just hope he goes the right way...
saw the interview, decided after three seconds he was a shit interviewee, sell him he obviously can't make it at United!!!
This was against Blackburn mind you, a decent full-back would have curbed him.
Anyways, his ball control and crossing need to improve by a mile. Hopefully it will . . .
Youtube has a video of Ronaldo's debut for United and it is fairly similar to Obertan's. If you watch Ronaldo's video you see a couple misplaced passes, times when he dribbles way too much, and his inability to work with his teammates. There are traits about Obertan that point towards him being a phenomenal player, but whether he builds on them is yet to be seen.
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