Must confess, I've not watched much South American football recently but from what little I have seen of Gabriel Jesus, he really should become a star. He reminds me of a young Robinho, more pace and composure than skill and trickery. Looks most likely that Barcelona will have the first option on him and he'll probably stay in Brazil for at least another season, but I really hope we are looking closely at him now.
Gabriel Jesus | Signs for City
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It's single handedly destroying our football. Attendences are at a absolute low point.
FIFA should do something about it... You can't just destroy a country's football like that, taking players right from youth systems and whatnot..
Do you think there should be an age cap on when a player can leave South America?
Yes, and also I think FIFA should do something to make the playing ground more equal financially. Like NBA does for instance.
Also, in the 90s, our young stars went to teams like PSV where they could develop and could commit mistakes. Now, they are going directly to PSG, Madrid where they can't commit mistakes and have limited playing time ala Lucas Moura. The agents of course, don't give a crap. They just want the money.
I think the players themselves are part of this issue too, alot of the south American players are from poor back rounds with little one and the first sign of cash they jump ship (can't really fault them) just look at the lad that has signed for City, in the end he was probably set for life joining either club but he wanted security for his family too so he went with the money!
Yeah it's wrong but the money in football is getting too much and it filtering down to youngsters and it's turning their heads and the desire to earn that forst big contract outweighs the hunger to become a better play, slightly off tangent but I think it applies.
You mean the Brazilian league getting a cut of the PL's TV deal?
FIFA has shitloads of money. They should be able to support a youngster who is getting harassed by euro money and keep him in his original youth system. The problem is that big brazilian clubs also do this same shit to small brazilian sides, so its not like they are saints either.
It's a bit of a vicious circle where there will always be a bigger shark eating the talent up on every level.
Yes, but before the Bosman rule, it wasn't like that. So its also a matter of legislation.
You have no idea how much it sucks to not have good domestic football anymore. Football isn't a market, its also culture. So there should be intervention.
Also, if you think about it, the players from Brazil leaving early are getting really robotic and european. The one who stayed longer (Neymar) has our footballing values.
I agree, Neymar is the first Brazilian to have the flair I associated with your stars as a kid, since Ronaldinho and Rivaldo, the modern Brazilian players have been very Europeanized and it shows in your national team which is nothing like the ones I grew yp watching. .
That's a very reasonable point, although Ronaldinho left Brazil aged 21 and had so much individuality and Brazilian culture flowing through his veins. I think you're just struggling to produce players at the same volume as in previous years, but it doesn't help that so many top talents come over to Europe to warm benches.
Playing right now and has already scored.
In what?
First division game. Cruzeiro vs Palmeiras.
Cheers, might have a look
I'd boot Suarez in the shin there.
Il fenomeno left Brazil as a child, Kaka at 21. Robinho also left at 21, Neymar at 21. That is still fairly young. Who leaves Brazil earlier than that?
A lot of players from our NT left before their 20s. Willian, Coutinho, Firmino, Marquinhos, Marcelo etc
I'd take him, gladly. With Götze leaving and Ribery and Robben becoming non-factors due to their frequent injuries, we could do with another attacking midfielder/winger.
I mean, Ribery is playing right now and looking good as ever, but we cannot count on him and Robben over the course of a season anymore. Latter is injured again, will probably miss for the start of the season.
I mean, Ribery is playing right now and looking good as ever, but we cannot count on him and Robben over the course of a season anymore. Latter is injured again, will probably miss for the start of the season.
Still think this kid has all the potential to be a serious talent. Hope City don't get him if we don't.
A fifa minimum age on transfers is very sensible and could be the best to build global football but those cnuts probably have their hands in the money transfered instead.
It is already 18 how much higher do you want it to be?
21 feels like the right age to develop culture and values.
Potential work permit problem?
Would not be fair to the players. If their goal is to be a professional Footballer in Europe it would suck if they had to wait three years.
I'm sure most would enjoy it if their domestic leagues were more competitive and not see european football as an immediate priority.
This would help in keeping more players in their leagues anyhow.
If the players are good enough then it helps all parties. A European club buying a 18 year old Brazilian 'Superstar' but when he arrives doesn't live up to the hype. He sticks it out until hes 21 and he will have showcased his skills and developed better as a player, meaning the European club buying him now will have to stump up more money to get the player. It helps everyone involved in it, even the buying club who are outlaying a bigger chunk of money. It provides less risk than buying an 18 year old player who may just stay in the reserves and not fully live up to his potential as not getting enough competitive game time.
I feel like it is solving a problem that is not a big issue. England's work permit rules and EU limits in other countries will already limit the amount of guys who can come over. And over the years most of the "wonderkids" have not ended up at the super clubs. Over the years Porto, Benfica, Shakhtar and for a time Udinese have done the best job signing these guys.
On the contrary, Neymar etc were already head and shoulders over the brazilian league at that age. Once leaving and joining Barca he has progressed massively. Staying at Santos 3 more years would have stagnated him massively.
Sure it's not the right move for everybody, but the player himself must decide what's good for him, not just following the agent and the money.
Nobody is forcing them to leave for Europe, if they aren't good enough yet they should stick around in Brazil longer. IF they are clearly ready then rules should stop them unfairly.
Sounds like he's signing for City.
I thought they were signing Marlos Moreno.
Signed with City
They get him and Marlos Moreno, who I think are the two best youngsters in S.America.
They get him and Marlos Moreno, who I think are the two best youngsters in S.America.
Looks like they're signing him as well but they'll loan him out, possibly to some club in Spain.
Shame.
Bad move if it's true he's headed to city. Should of stayed in Brazil for 2 more seasons.
He hasn't signed yet has he? Also, out of interest, why is he valued relatively cheaply, don't S.A. clubs generally hold out for ridiculous sums for their best talents?
Well that's a bit shit.
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