Rashford burst on the scene as a youth product and produced moments of magic in big games (vs City at City for example). Jesus has scored 3 tap ins and cost big money. Certainly a talent but the hype declaring him a super talent just yet is overboard.
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Rashford burst on the scene as a youth product and produced moments of magic in big games (vs City at City for example). Jesus has scored 3 tap ins and cost big money. Certainly a talent but the hype declaring him a super talent just yet is overboard.
At least he scores them, give these chances to our lot and you will see none of them go in.
Wtf! He has 3 goals and an assist in 4 games. He's just come from Brazil and has settled extremely quickly. His all round play is actually very good too.
Rashford is being played out of position and it's clear he isn't comfortable on the left wing.
The stats of Martial's productivity the past few games in which he's featured has been posted on CAF enough times for you not to have seen it.
Sorry, didn't mean here, just meant in general.
I see the reluctance to praise a rival player is prevalent here. I'm sure we were all declaring Martial a top talent after his debut against Liverpool.
He's looking good but he's not going to be able to maintain his current form towards the end of the season. He moved to City at the end of the Brazilian season so as it currently stands, he hasn't had a break yet. I fully expect him to be a key player for them next season though, especially with Aguero's inevitable departure.
Fair enough. I haven't really noticed it myself but the media will naturally declare him the next Brazilian wonderkid as that's what they do.
To be fair, they are similar players in terms of style.
I didn't realise that the quality of your goals counted double. A goal is a goal
Anyone who caught a Brazil match in 2016 saw his talent.
A little faith in youth goes a long way. Jose could learn a thing or two.
Just doesn't want to get carried away. Too much hype surrounding him atm.Dude
Being played out of position doesn't magically take away your finishing abilities. Rashford has squandered many 1 on 1s when he has been put through, the latest one being on Wednesday where he panicked and put the shot wide. As far as Martial's productivity is concerned, I have indeed saw that stat but he hasn't been able to replicate his cup form into the PL and it's evident in our results and goalscorer table. 2nd highest scorer behind Ibra is not Rashford or Martial, it's Mata with four who ironically is also being played out wide despite being a number 10. Being played out of position is a poor excuse for butchering easy chances.
It's so obvious when a player has the makings of a superstar. No guarantees of course.
Rival team or not, he looks incredible. The guy is 19 years old for crying out loud!
Very timely arrival for City, could save Pep from the embarrassment of missing out on top four.
Rival team or not, he looks incredible. The guy is 19 years old for crying out loud!
Very timely arrival for City, could save Pep from the embarrassment of missing out on top four.
Dude
Tbf, he should have at least 9 goals and 7 assists after 4 games. I mean 3 goals and an assist is a joke of a return.
I think I've already seen a couple of journalists calling him a "superstar." I mean come on...
He ain't Neymar yet!
Good player, but was pretty fortunate with both goals today. He just happened to be where the ball bounced.
Just saw the Sky interview,Whats up with his cheek bone,did he get a bang ?
I think I've already seen a couple of journalists calling him a "superstar." I mean come on...
He ain't Neymar yet!
The media are predictable as ever, I see. Given that he's Brazilian they'll be waiting to the declare him the next 'insert name here'.
No it's not. City haven't ever had the youth teams propelling youngsters like us. What they do is have money. They have spent more on youngsters behind the scene than anyone & fair play to them. Jose would be buying players in their prime mixed with only the best of the best youngsters like
Z0uma or varane.
Sadness. Jesus and O Dembélé were two young players I really wanted to see at United. Think City have a potentially top, top player in him - shades of Romário in his game, barely scratching the surface of his potential and arguably the best overall attacker outside of Neymar for Brazil, IMO. 
Hope Barcelona/Madrid come calling as soon as possible with Cristiano/Suárez's impending decline in 2-3 seasons (counter Agüero argument jinx).
Hope Barcelona/Madrid come calling as soon as possible with Cristiano/Suárez's impending decline in 2-3 seasons (counter Agüero argument jinx).
I think I've already seen a couple of journalists calling him a "superstar." I mean come on...
He ain't Neymar yet!
Not difficult to see why the word superstar is being banded about though.
Very few dispute that Jesus is the most significant talent to emerge from Brazil since Neymar. Particularly those who've watch his development closely. The parallels are obvious.
Looks like a fantastic player.
Annoying that once Aguero looks to be on the vane, they pick up a player who looks like he can pick up where Aguero left it, and not be a injury prone player...
Was hoping they would spend a lot of time to find a proper replacement for Aguero, Kompany & Yaya. :/
Annoying that once Aguero looks to be on the vane, they pick up a player who looks like he can pick up where Aguero left it, and not be a injury prone player...
Was hoping they would spend a lot of time to find a proper replacement for Aguero, Kompany & Yaya. :/
3 full games & 8 minutes of another. 3 goals & 2 assists (3 if you count winning a scored free kick like fantasy football does). Not a bad ratio.
Would be silly to expect this week-in-week-out, but he looks to have a lot of good attributes for someone so young & it's easy to see why Pep likes the way he plays. He'll have dips like every young player, just need to be patient when that inevitably happens.
They haven't really replaced Kompany and Yaya properly yet. There's still hope given Pep's poor track record of signing CBs.
Martial is a much better example. Not Rashford.
Can't say I'm too bothered about his potential. If he does become world class then Madrid and Barca would be all over him, and with him being Brazilian I'm sure he'd be all over that move too. A world class Brazilian forward at Madrid/Barca is a no-brainer.
They managed to keep Aguero for long enough.
You may know better than me since I haven't been flowing him. Is he being hyped up as a trancendant world superstar like Neymar? I mean, Oscar was hyped up like crazy when we first signed him and look what happened. He was supposed to be the new Kaká.
From what little I've seen of him he doesn't look near what Neymar did a couple of years ago.
He's not a patch on Neymar technically wise but he's more of a predator and his work-rate is on a completely different level to Neymar's. He's a bit like Tevez but with a better first touch and quicker.
Neymar at 19 was still at Santos. Jesus at 19 is now immediately scoring in the PL.
There is a reason we were in for him and offered even more money than City did..
Martial had a good season with Monaco before signing. Plus, he played wide.
Rashford was leading the line like Gabriel today. Similar movements inside the box.
Doing really well but it's strange how Iheanacho has become the forgotten man.
Yeah, it's easy to hype every emerging talent from Brazil.
But there are very clear parallels with Jesus to that of Neymar re his early development - so the expectation being, that if he continues on the same trajectory, he'll be equally as successful.
Also already having an impact on the international side too.
I think his first few couple of goals are irrelevant in being able to see he's got the makings of a good player. Goals are important but what's most impressed me is his ability to receive a ball under pressure and make the right decision. He did it countless times today. Both long balls from defenders and into feet from midfielders; he was always able to either bring it under control, play the ball and even put Silva through into a position he should have scored from, and every time under pressure from the defender. He understands what's going on around.
To be able to do that at 19 is very rare in a league this physical. The rest of his game is also quite mature, running with the ball at his feet and making a habit of being in the right place, but there's plenty of players that can do that and that alone does not set him apart. What they can't all do is take a ball into the body, take a defender out of the game by holding him off and bring other players into the attack. That's why he deserves credit over these first few games.
To be able to do that at 19 is very rare in a league this physical. The rest of his game is also quite mature, running with the ball at his feet and making a habit of being in the right place, but there's plenty of players that can do that and that alone does not set him apart. What they can't all do is take a ball into the body, take a defender out of the game by holding him off and bring other players into the attack. That's why he deserves credit over these first few games.
For one of the most expensive players ever, he isnt doing too bad
How many players have Barca or Real signed from City?
Like PSG before then, I very much doubt City will allow themselves to be bullied by the Spanish big two.
You weren't comparing playing styles. You were asking whether City fans were praising Rashford.
Martial like Jesus was a youngster signed for big money that made an immediate impact.
Absolutely, and Jesus might not stay at the level he has shown so far.
But it does look good on one of the 3 places they have to improve soon.
I'd argue they've also "replaced" their reliance on Silva with De Bruyne which i forgot to mention as another place they'd have to get someone in a few years back.
They do have a shit record on defenders, have to admit that is something that pleases me a lot, so while Jesus looks promising they are obviously not "in the clear".