Totally, when that sort of hammering is there to be given, it should be given.
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Totally, when that sort of hammering is there to be given, it should be given.
This may sound ridiculous but that manner of victory for Mayo might not be the best thing for them, the hype and media spotlight will just pile more pressure on them. Donegal were terrible, really terrible. But credit to Mayo for putting them away. I think Tyrone will be a much tougher prospect than Donegal were today. As far as winning the thing goes, it would be an incredible final between Dublin and Mayo. As a Dub I still think we'd win it. We owe Mayo (at least) one.
That's us fecked then. I thought we'd have a better chance against mayo but not anymore. Galway not being as bad as they were made look should have been a clue. We've a great recent record against them but we'll lose for sure. Dublin mayo looks like a certain bet now. So long as Cavanagh drags someone down and we play our own filthy game I'll be happy.
Also mcguinness the hoor wishing mayo luck in the final. A cheap dig?
Irwin is rattled.
Not ridiculous at all, simple fact is Mayo haven't had a proper test yet and if Tyrone are one thing it's battle hardened. Perfect scenario for Tyrone really coming in as big underdogs same as for Kerry in the other semi really.
Can't see past a Mayo-Dublin final at this stage tbh, and it should be a cracker should it happen. I hope Mayo are favourites for it too, which they probably will be unless we hammer Kerry.
Cavan were absolutely atrocious in that first half today. I don't think they found man with a kick pass at all from over 10/15 yards. Were a bit better in the second but I'd say most of that was down to Kerry already thinking about the semi. I didnt see a whole lot to fear from the Kerry team either, and only the fact that they're Kerry, I'd be a lot more confident about beating them than I am now. Still confident though.
Mayo were just unreal today. Can't remember seeing a better 35 minutes live from a team than maybe Kerry vs Dublin in 2009. Donegal were pretty shocking too though tbf. Once they went 1-3 down I never felt they could get it back. They're not great at chasing games. Mayo will be tough to bet, but I'm happy enough knowing that they most likely wont be able to reach that level of performance again.
Cavan were absolutely atrocious in that first half today. I don't think they found man with a kick pass at all from over 10/15 yards. Were a bit better in the second but I'd say most of that was down to Kerry already thinking about the semi. I didnt see a whole lot to fear from the Kerry team either, and only the fact that they're Kerry, I'd be a lot more confident about beating them than I am now. Still confident though.
Mayo were just unreal today. Can't remember seeing a better 35 minutes live from a team than maybe Kerry vs Dublin in 2009. Donegal were pretty shocking too though tbf. Once they went 1-3 down I never felt they could get it back. They're not great at chasing games. Mayo will be tough to bet, but I'm happy enough knowing that they most likely wont be able to reach that level of performance again.
Nah, were fecked against tat lot.
Might be hard for a man from a county that's always there but Cavan done well today by not getting hammered. They are a side on the up and hopefully we'll see them up in croker again soon.
Yeah, tbh when I was writing that I thought it a bit harsh too. Its just a shame that they had such a bad first half, and its sad to see a team in the last eight not able to kick an accurate pass over 20+ yards. They were much better in the second half when they actually ran at Kerry with the ball and showed some directness.
Anyway, fair play to then for getting that far, and there is usually always a team like that in the last 8 so it was a bit harsh from me.
IS anyone else having this issue where the GAA thread isn't in the thread list in other sports but can be seen from the main forum page if it's the one with the most recent post?
Just had another look at the Penrose incident and it's a good example of the RTE bullshit.
Penrose more or less pushed Moyne in the shoulder, and not even too hard. Moyne goes down holding his face and comes off the pitch laughing to the Tyrone player no doubt about getting him sent off. If that's not cynical cheating then I don't know what is. How do RTE cover this, they ignore it completely even though in the slow-mo replay they clearly show this as being the case.
The face in the picture near the fist is actually Gormley, Penrose is no-where near striking the face so it was never a red card.
Penrose more or less pushed Moyne in the shoulder, and not even too hard. Moyne goes down holding his face and comes off the pitch laughing to the Tyrone player no doubt about getting him sent off. If that's not cynical cheating then I don't know what is. How do RTE cover this, they ignore it completely even though in the slow-mo replay they clearly show this as being the case.
The face in the picture near the fist is actually Gormley, Penrose is no-where near striking the face so it was never a red card.
Jaysus ye won get over it!
Just defending one of my embattled county men against the tirade wrongly coming his way.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/northern-ireland/23577112
A nice wee video from Martin McHugh giving his views on the big weekend. 2 and a half minutes from probably the best pundit around at the moment.
A nice wee video from Martin McHugh giving his views on the big weekend. 2 and a half minutes from probably the best pundit around at the moment.
Dublin are gonna hammer us save your money
Irwin ruining this thread with his aggressive defence, typical. Feckin Nor'ners.
Anyway, I'm not sure Dublin - Mayo is that much of a cert. Writing off either shower of cnuts that are Tyrone or Kerry is a dangerous game.
Anyway, I'm not sure Dublin - Mayo is that much of a cert. Writing off either shower of cnuts that are Tyrone or Kerry is a dangerous game.
Ye'll hammer us
Shut up, you're scaring me now.
That 2011 win over Kerry will have done wonders for the Dublin team's confidence. That hoodoo hung over them for a long, long time, and I doubt they view the Kerry jersey with the same fear they once did.
Kerry, on the other hand, can forget about winning this if they continue their season-long habit of going asleep for 10-15 minutes of the second half. Dublin will have ten points on the board in that time if they allow it to happen. On the evidence we've seen so far, everything points to a Dublin victory. But it's a dangerous tactic to write off Kerry. Especially in Croke Park.
Kerry, on the other hand, can forget about winning this if they continue their season-long habit of going asleep for 10-15 minutes of the second half. Dublin will have ten points on the board in that time if they allow it to happen. On the evidence we've seen so far, everything points to a Dublin victory. But it's a dangerous tactic to write off Kerry. Especially in Croke Park.
Is this the first tweet in this thread? Not before time too eh moses!
Aboy, Brolly. Sow it inta 'em!
Had a look though his twitter feed and the cnut is loving the attention he's getting, arguing with all and sundry. Plenty of past and present big name intercounty players all on there telling him he's wrong.
Tipperary v Clare tonight in the Munster u21 Hurling Final. Should be a cracker. Keep an eye out for Tipperary's half-back line and Forde, O'Meara and Walsh in the forwards. If they perform, Tipp won't be beaten. The forward three I've mentioned are capable of scoring 4-12 between them.
Tipperary 0-06 Clare 1-09 at half-time. Clare are flying it, totally dominating so far. Tipperary, for all their lack of hurling in that half, are still in with a squeak, though. A quick-fire goal can change the entire complexion of the game, and there are goals in this Tipperary team.
And 18 of the Clare panel on the senior panel. I think it's fair to say that unless Clare do a Galway on it and disappear into the Bermuda triangle after a shit load of underage success that they'll be knocking around at the top for a few years.
Clare 1-17 : 2-10 Tipperary
Tipperary apart from pucking long balls up into the Clare backs and hoping for the best didn't seem to know what they were at and were lucky enough to finish up within 3pts of Clare in the end.
Clare are looking good for retaining their title now.
Clare 1-17 : 2-10 Tipperary
Tipperary apart from pucking long balls up into the Clare backs and hoping for the best didn't seem to know what they were at and were lucky enough to finish up within 3pts of Clare in the end.
Clare are looking good for retaining their title now.
Congrats to the Redhanders on their victory over us. No complaints in general, the craftier team won. . . . . but definitely very annoyed at some CRUCIAL wrong calls that did not go in our favour, but "that's the way the cookie crumbles".
While the general theme of Joe Brolly's rant was correct, he was totally wrong to single out Sean Kavanagh....... every team/player in the country would have done the same thing. However, the GAA MUST punish a blatant personal foul if a player is deemed to have a chance to bear down on goal.
My bigger gripe with SK, was when he conned the Ref into giving him a free (which was scored), & in turn got Darren Hughes booked. He pulled DK's hand into his body, after DK won the ball.
Tommy Freeman in no way fouled Conor Gormely near the end, when he netted.... I had perfect views of both of the above incidents. As TF caught & turned toward goal, CG feigned as if he was pushed... he got the free out....... But no problem ALL counties do it ! ... just wasn't to be our day!
IwtK is correct when says that is Gormely's black glove which hit Dessie Mone, but that incident happened about 10-15 secs earlier. Penrose DEFINETLY punched DM after that (both could have been sent off). To be honest "handbags", but silly to do direct under Officials noses.
Anyway, well done Tyrone & to IwtK & RHD. Will cheer ye on, but I think Mayo will not be stopped!
While the general theme of Joe Brolly's rant was correct, he was totally wrong to single out Sean Kavanagh....... every team/player in the country would have done the same thing. However, the GAA MUST punish a blatant personal foul if a player is deemed to have a chance to bear down on goal.
My bigger gripe with SK, was when he conned the Ref into giving him a free (which was scored), & in turn got Darren Hughes booked. He pulled DK's hand into his body, after DK won the ball.
Tommy Freeman in no way fouled Conor Gormely near the end, when he netted.... I had perfect views of both of the above incidents. As TF caught & turned toward goal, CG feigned as if he was pushed... he got the free out....... But no problem ALL counties do it ! ... just wasn't to be our day!
IwtK is correct when says that is Gormely's black glove which hit Dessie Mone, but that incident happened about 10-15 secs earlier. Penrose DEFINETLY punched DM after that (both could have been sent off). To be honest "handbags", but silly to do direct under Officials noses.
Anyway, well done Tyrone & to IwtK & RHD. Will cheer ye on, but I think Mayo will not be stopped!
Cheers stg. You had a right hood rattle at it and I suppose if you were offered this run at the start of the season you would have taken it. Delighted you won ulster especially for some of the excellent older players you gave.
For us, I see mayo beating us, but anything past round 4 of the qualifiers is a bonus for us this year. Turn up next time and try to rattle mayo early in the game. If we managed to put them on the back foot for the first time this year we might stand a chance but I'm clutching now.
For us, I see mayo beating us, but anything past round 4 of the qualifiers is a bonus for us this year. Turn up next time and try to rattle mayo early in the game. If we managed to put them on the back foot for the first time this year we might stand a chance but I'm clutching now.
I don't think that's clutching, I think that's a genuine game plan versus Mayo. We have only really fell behind and been rattled once over the past 2 years, and we all know how that ended.
We badly need to keep the bit between our teeth now and kick on. Little things worry me and our attitude is one of them - Aidan O'Shea tweeting about the night out and Brian O'Driscoll is part of the worry, we just need to refocus and kick on now.
The reason it's clutching IMO is that to beat Mayo you have to put them under the cosh early and that means goals. Tyrone have played six games in the All-Ireland this year and have only managed to score two goals, one against Offaly and one against Kildare. Hardly a ringing endorsement of our inside forward line. Honestly, no-one has thought more about ways that we can beat this Mayo side and barring you lads getting another bout of Crokeparkittus I just can't see it. If I was Mickey I'd put Cavanagh in the inside forward line for the first 15-20 minutes and try to play O'Neill and McCurry off him. Leave Cassidy in midfield beside Colm Cavanagh and hope that we get off to a decent start. At least playing it that way would maybe push you onto the back foot and might give our half back line something to aim at because I don't see them working the ball through the hands into shooting positions against Mayo. if that's not working drop Cassidy back further and bring Sean into midfield again for the long range shooting.
Very happy with both Championships so far this year. Am delighted to see the Dublin team still going but definitely think Rock should be starting for an off form Brogan. I understand the logic in expecting Brogan to fire but Rock is the form player and really showed his class from the bench the last day. I cant help feel that we are really missing Alan Brogan too with his vision and good passing into the forward line. The fullback line is a bit of a worry. OBrien and Cooper look like good defenders but they dont dominate in the air. I think O'Carroll needs to take on the mantle here and Donaghy will certainly be a test for them.
I saw the Tyrone Monaghan game and thought that if Monaghan had more experience they would have pushed on with the extra man. That said Tyrone really stood up and Cavanagh was excellent. The sending off was really silly for me and raising your arms right under the refs nose was stupid. That said I thought Penrose was probably a little unlucky as the other Tyrone fella struck Moan in the face and you could see by the colour of the glove. The Brolly over reaction on Cavanagh was gas. I was talking to lads before our match at the weekend and we all said without doubt that if you can prevent an opponent from scoring a potential game winning goal then you do it no matter the consequences. It's cynical but the laws of the game went in Cavanagh's favour so you can't blame him for that. I didn't see much else wrong with the Tyrone game to be fair. I can understand that they push the rules to the limits but most teams do this. I was impressed by McMahon and Cavanagh but wonder about O'Neill and if he is just being double marked or if something is missing. I'm waiting for himself and Brogan to spark but so far for me of forwards remaining in this years Championship it's O'Connor and Gooch that are really showing form. I think it's going to be a Mayo Kerry final and mayo to get revenge for 2006. They just looked outstanding against Donegal and O'Shea was awesome and O'Connor is just a clinical player in great form. Kerry went to sleep against Cavan but in truth they didn't need to do anything in the second half and could keep a bit in the tank for Dublin. Declan O'Sullivan looked on form and Gooch seems to be reinvented in his new role a bit like Alan Brogan was for Dublin a couple of years ago. For me if Donaghy finds form and the ball against a suspect Dublin full back line and Darren O'Sullivan can get on his touch downs it will be a Kerry win but a very close call.
Apologies for the big write up but I've been away a while and am delighted with the 4 semi finalists this year. I think they were the strongest teams and will provide great games.
Quick shout out for the Dubs in the hurling. Don't think the 5 week lay off will have helped them and Cork have really come on this year but hopefully a good close game with Dublin pipping it.
I saw the Tyrone Monaghan game and thought that if Monaghan had more experience they would have pushed on with the extra man. That said Tyrone really stood up and Cavanagh was excellent. The sending off was really silly for me and raising your arms right under the refs nose was stupid. That said I thought Penrose was probably a little unlucky as the other Tyrone fella struck Moan in the face and you could see by the colour of the glove. The Brolly over reaction on Cavanagh was gas. I was talking to lads before our match at the weekend and we all said without doubt that if you can prevent an opponent from scoring a potential game winning goal then you do it no matter the consequences. It's cynical but the laws of the game went in Cavanagh's favour so you can't blame him for that. I didn't see much else wrong with the Tyrone game to be fair. I can understand that they push the rules to the limits but most teams do this. I was impressed by McMahon and Cavanagh but wonder about O'Neill and if he is just being double marked or if something is missing. I'm waiting for himself and Brogan to spark but so far for me of forwards remaining in this years Championship it's O'Connor and Gooch that are really showing form. I think it's going to be a Mayo Kerry final and mayo to get revenge for 2006. They just looked outstanding against Donegal and O'Shea was awesome and O'Connor is just a clinical player in great form. Kerry went to sleep against Cavan but in truth they didn't need to do anything in the second half and could keep a bit in the tank for Dublin. Declan O'Sullivan looked on form and Gooch seems to be reinvented in his new role a bit like Alan Brogan was for Dublin a couple of years ago. For me if Donaghy finds form and the ball against a suspect Dublin full back line and Darren O'Sullivan can get on his touch downs it will be a Kerry win but a very close call.
Apologies for the big write up but I've been away a while and am delighted with the 4 semi finalists this year. I think they were the strongest teams and will provide great games.
Quick shout out for the Dubs in the hurling. Don't think the 5 week lay off will have helped them and Cork have really come on this year but hopefully a good close game with Dublin pipping it.
Good read! Agree on Stephen O' Neill I just can't figure out the sudden drop in form, on his day he's unmarkable up there with the Gooch.
Yeah I watched him against Kildare in the league and his performance was brilliant but I haven't seen anything like that in the Championship. I know he had an injury early on in the Donegal game but he must surely be over it. Harte brought him out the pitch a bit against Tyrone. It may have been a necessity after the Penrose red but some of his passes were excellent and created a couple of scores for others but for me he needs to be closer into the goal. Ideally McCurry would find a bit of form and take some pressure of O'Neill but I don't see that happening against Mayo but if Cavanagh can continue his form it will be close anyway. Also what happened to Eoin Mulligan?
Gooch's passing and runs this year are class. Any young lads watching the game should take heed. Just a natural and a pleasure to watch. Can't believe he's been in the Kerry senior side 11 years or so. Feels like yesterday!!
Mulligan just retired I think. I'm sure Tyrone can beat Mayo, everything's in their favour, coming in with no one giving them a chance. O' Shea will be nowhere as influential that's for sure and Mayo simply haven't had a right test yet. That Mayo performance against Donegal was a once off too I can't see it being replicated again in the same year. If there 2-3 points in it with fifteen to go I'd fancy Tyrone.
We'll give Dublin a right good game for 50 mins or so but their bench will make the difference, we just don't have the quality on the sidelines that they have.
Yeah I would back Tyrone in any game with 2 or 3 points the difference and fifteen to go.
I love Dublin Kerry games too. Went down to Thurles years back and saw Vinny Murphy shoulder charge all 6 of the kerry backs en route to his full forward position and was mortified and incedibly impressed by the hammering we took at your hands a few years back. Like you say though the bench is a massive thing in football now and we do have real quality but still it's a close call and I just think Kerry might have a bit more hunger this year.
Jesus lads, don't be giving me false hope that Tyrone have a good chance. Not this far away from the game anyway because any little spark of light and I'll get myself all worked up.
With O'Neill I think it's a combination of things. He was flying in the League, especially towards the end but that counts for little come the championship. He's been double and triple marked which is partly our own fault when we only play a two man full forward line to accommodate McMahon playing as sweeper. He's getting targeted for a lot of abuse both verbals and physical, but a man of his experience shouldn't be losing the head but he seems to be reacting more than ever before. The quality of ball into him has been pathetic, and finally as a result of him not getting enough decent ball in he's not been afforded enough good chances to get his form back so it's dragging on.
If we could sort out one of those problems then I think the rest could fall into place and that's why I'd take the chance at pushing Cavanagh up at the start to play with O'Neill.
With O'Neill I think it's a combination of things. He was flying in the League, especially towards the end but that counts for little come the championship. He's been double and triple marked which is partly our own fault when we only play a two man full forward line to accommodate McMahon playing as sweeper. He's getting targeted for a lot of abuse both verbals and physical, but a man of his experience shouldn't be losing the head but he seems to be reacting more than ever before. The quality of ball into him has been pathetic, and finally as a result of him not getting enough decent ball in he's not been afforded enough good chances to get his form back so it's dragging on.
If we could sort out one of those problems then I think the rest could fall into place and that's why I'd take the chance at pushing Cavanagh up at the start to play with O'Neill.
I can't wait for tomorrow as a neutral. Hoping for a humdinger. Cork to edge it. Just.