Gormley suspended for semi final, Irwin won't be a happy camper.
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Not surprised really. The mighty Kilkenny legend gets a red overturned and the Tyrone legend gets cited. The GAA wants a Dublin Mayo final and they will do what it takes to ensure it happens. No sign of Penrose getting his red rescinded even though he only pushed him on the shoulder.
Getting a bit much this year tbh.
Getting a bit much this year tbh.
It's not a surprise at all.
Proper order. About time the GAA stood up to these acts of thuggery on the field. There's nothing "manly" about petulant strikes to the face. It's a red card offence since I can ever remember and players run the risk of suspensions every time they raise their hands. No sympathy for them.
Yeah I would worry about attitude and problems in the camp alright. I think Galway and Tipp were very close to closing the gap with Kilkenny the last few years but they have taken a step backwards alright. I think Tipp, Galway and Kilkenny have all taken backward steps and been sucked into the group of Cork and Waterford. Dublin, Clare and Limerick have all stepped up their games in a big way to join this group too which makes the championship that bit better for me with any of 8 potential winners not to mention the progress of Laois and the potential of Offaly and Wexford to catch this group. So while I agree that Galway may have been in dissarray this year you still have to beat them.
I would have thought they would rescind the Penrose red if Gormley is getting a ban. Penrose red was similar to that of Connelly against Donegal a couple of years back.
1) Penrose didn't strike him in the face, he hit him in the shoulder as I proved a few pages back but you conveniently ignored that.
2) I'm told now that the Monaghan player actually pulled Gormleys hand up to make it look like he hit out at him. Not sure how true it is but apparently we are appealing on those grounds.
I have watched it several times + "slow-mo", both Tyrone players punched. However, I'm sure our Desmond (far from an Angel) possibly did something (not caught on camera) to provoke. . . time to put it to bed!
Dude, I don't know about the Gormley incident, but with Penrose even as it happened I said something here like I didn't think he hit him. I watched it back again and again and even went to the extreme of taking a screen grab of the sunday game that weekend. It's about 10 mins from the end where they show it well, but you can clearly see in slow mo that Penrose's hand only strikes your mans shoulder.
I know a picture can be misleading but watch the video back, it's crystal clear and you can see where Penrose's hand ends up in the pic below.
Just had another look at the Penrose incident and it's a good example of the RTE bullshit.
Penrose more or less pushed Moyne in the shoulder, and not even too hard. Moyne goes down holding his face and comes off the pitch laughing to the Tyrone player no doubt about getting him sent off. If that's not cynical cheating then I don't know what is. How do RTE cover this, they ignore it completely even though in the slow-mo replay they clearly show this as being the case.
The face in the picture near the fist is actually Gormley, Penrose is no-where near striking the face so it was never a red card.
Durty Nor'n feckers.
Of course not. As ever, I speak from a position beyond reproach.
Cluxton taking 45's slowly is as bad as anything I've ever seen on the field of play. Disgraceful/
St Stephen.
Tbf, as you say, pictures can be misleading. Do you have the video there, as from what I remember, he swung at Mone, and though he hit him in the shoulder, thats hardly a valid reason to not being sent off. Just because you miss a guys mush doesnt mean it wasnt violent conduct.
Though I could well be disproved in the video.
If he hit him on the shoulder who are you or the ref to say he aimed anywhere other than the shoulder. If the GAA is a sport now where that's a red card offence every player in the country would be sent off virtually every game.
I can't find it on you tube but the video in on the RTE player about 5 mins from the end of the sunday game.
What I meant was if he swung a punch, normally it'd be aimed at the head, or often the stomach. They're not gonna go around hitting eachother in the shoulder. If the intent was to hit him in the head, but he missed and caught his shoulder/neck, then surely you can see how the ref can still give a red card?
The hurleybat was on this weekend so the Tyrone Sunday game is gone unfortunately.
If he took a swing with a closed fist and missed then I agree with you. What I'm telling you it was though was an open palm with fingers closed and more of a push than a punch. Nothing much more then the pushing and shoving every time a sub comes on. It looked bad because of the camera angle but if you look a few times it's pretty clear what happened.
Just found this which IMO is fecking crystal clear if you look at especially the Penrose incident.
3.56 - You can see Mone has a hold of Gormley's hand held high. Gormley swings the arm but it doesn't look like a strike when you look closely and if anyone touched Mone it was himself.
4.00 & 5.12 - The latter especially is slowed down and there is no doubt at all that Penrose didn't punch Mone in the face. He pushed him in the shoulder as I said all along and Mone went down holding his face, cheating to get his man sent off. That's way worse than anything else that happened in the game but can anyone tell me why it's completely been ignored??
Clucko.........oh wait
Whole thing looks like handbags in that. I would say a red during the game was punishment enough. Can we get Brolly suspended? He was the main problem in the last game.
I'm with Irwin there. Definitely a little push away into the shoulder and simulation from the Monaghan lad.
That red was never ever a red, but I agree with you about Brolly. In fact the whole RTE expert panel is terrible. I like the main commentators such as Lister and Daragh ?? but the boys paid to know their stuff are terrible.
Give me Martin McHugh or Jarleth Burns any time.
G'man Feeky. At least I can count on you now like that moses fella. He suck you in to a false sense of security and then tramples all over you.
look at it again lads..... 2 little punches, not pushes.
I thought the guff about Tyrone supporters being whingers was an inaccurate stereotype but Irwin is doing his damnest to correct that in this thread this year.
Have you not moaned about referee/GAA conspiracies after one game this year, Irwin?
Have you not moaned about referee/GAA conspiracies after one game this year, Irwin?
Red card rescinded. Irwin is now a happy camper.
So Penrose in, Gormley out?
That red was never ever a red, but I agree with you about Brolly. In fact the whole RTE expert panel is terrible. I like the main commentators such as Lister and Daragh ?? but the boys paid to know their stuff are terrible.
Give me Martin McHugh or Jarleth Burns any time.
Yeah I've seen far worse than that not punished but what I find silly is that he did it under the refs nose.
No Gormley's ban was overturned rightfully but they threw out Penrose's appeal on a time technicality.
That's true, but there was a bit of a Mallee and these things are not planned. What the Monaghan No 6 did was every bit as bad and it wasn't punished.
Paddy Power betting Limerick v Clare.
Limerick 8/11 Draw 10/1 Clare 11/8
It's fairly tight alright and although I don't think it will reach the excesses of last week's thriller, it should be another brilliant game. Hopefully the weather will improve.
Again, the gap between Limerick's win in Munster and this game might be their undoing and Clare are certainly more battle-hardened coming into it. I have a sneaking suspicion that Clare will do it.
Whatever happens, I would love either of these two teams to win it out and end the Big3's winning streak going back to 1999.
1999, 2004-05 Cork
2000, 2002-03, 2006-09, 2011-12 Kilkenny
2001 & 2010 Tipperary
Limerick 8/11 Draw 10/1 Clare 11/8
It's fairly tight alright and although I don't think it will reach the excesses of last week's thriller, it should be another brilliant game. Hopefully the weather will improve.
Again, the gap between Limerick's win in Munster and this game might be their undoing and Clare are certainly more battle-hardened coming into it. I have a sneaking suspicion that Clare will do it.
Whatever happens, I would love either of these two teams to win it out and end the Big3's winning streak going back to 1999.
1999, 2004-05 Cork
2000, 2002-03, 2006-09, 2011-12 Kilkenny
2001 & 2010 Tipperary
I would have stuck Clare down as favourites for tomorrow to be honest, might have a wee look at them at 11/8. Might even maybe push it out to a handicap of minus 3 at 11/4.
Based on nothing other than a gut feeling though.
Regarding the Gormley suspension, it's getting a bit tiring having all of these suspensions overturned. Either ban him and stick to it or don't fecking bother - there's really no need for the amateurish sideshow. On the Penrose one, he'll probably feel hard done by getting refused on a technicality but I seem to recall that there were a few suspensions from the Battle of Omagh that were overturned on technicalities too, so I guess what goes around comes around.
Based on nothing other than a gut feeling though.
Regarding the Gormley suspension, it's getting a bit tiring having all of these suspensions overturned. Either ban him and stick to it or don't fecking bother - there's really no need for the amateurish sideshow. On the Penrose one, he'll probably feel hard done by getting refused on a technicality but I seem to recall that there were a few suspensions from the Battle of Omagh that were overturned on technicalities too, so I guess what goes around comes around.
I think and hope Clare are going to do it.
Agreed, would love to see them go on to win the All Ireland. If not, then I'd be up for Limerick in the final. Any of the other semi finalists would have been preferable to Cork.
They score loads. I like the way they play. Potentially a great game tomorrow.
The so called Battle of Omagh was a total assault job by the Dubs. Unprovoked attack of the highest order and the funny thing is that there's been more of a fuss about Cavanagh than that.
Davy Fitzgerald is an annoying geebag.
Limerick to win by 50 points.
Limerick to win by 50 points.
That is genuinely hilarious. You have talked about the Gormley/Penrose incidents as though there was absolutely nothing in it, and then describe the Battle of Omagh as a "total assault job" and an "unprovoked attack of the highest order". I am yet to see a single proper punch thrown during the Battle of Omagh, just a load of pushing and shoving. Double standards?
Besides, a bit of pushing and shoving in a league game is never going to attract as much attention as Cavanagh denying Monaghan a fairy tale run to the All Ireland semis. I agree that the Cavanagh thing has been blown out of proportion, it's just that RTE are trying to paint it in the same light as Luis Suarez handling on the line to deny Ghana a place in the WC semis. Stupid, I know, but hey ho.
Try not to be an idiot man. Handbags indeed infront of the stand.