Future planning - Replacing Carrick

I think he is going to stay one more year. So we would have Carrick, Schweinsteiger, Schneiderlin, Blind and Fosu-Mensah able to play as CDM... I think we should go for a ln dynamic midfielder, someone similar to Sanches, Gundogan or Saul. Pogba would be my mupet signing.
 
He can still dominate and be super useful against a team sitting deep:
 
He can still dominate and be super useful against a team sitting deep:


Yeah? where we he for our other games?

One domination against a Newcastle sides? The likes of Busquets and Pirlo are doing it week in week out against any opposition. His time is up, I don't mind him being a dressing room presence and mentor like player, but his actual contribution on the squad (assuming we want to challenge for trophies) are redundant
 
Yeah? where we he for our other games?

One domination against a Newcastle sides? The likes of Busquets and Pirlo are doing it week in week out against any opposition. His time is up, I don't mind him being a dressing room presence and mentor like player, but his actual contribution on the squad (assuming we want to challenge for trophies) are redundant

Since you asked:


 
I'd be good with a one-year extension for Carrick. We'll need the depth and his mentoring of younger players like Schneiderlin, Fosu-Mensah and (hopefully) Kante would serve the club well now and into the future.

As much as I still like Schweinsteiger he probably needs to move on. Definitely Fellaini. Likely Mata. Possibly Blind, although I would be opposed to ditching that particular Dutchman.
 
Thanks for the lists @Mark Pawelek !!

Would be awesome to get a kid like Weigl but I just keep thinking if we could get some quality on the wings that would change so much; more space in the center of the pitch, less stress on the CMs, more movement off the ball. Like a snowball effect everything about the team (and as such our stats) would improve.
 
Toni Kroos would be the one who I would like, only 26 could play for us for another 8-9 yrs.
Yeah I agree

Kroos also has a real eye for a goal and a lot more confidence in his own ability I'd say

I think it says something about Carrick's confidence/character that he hasn't scored enough goals - he should have easily been scoring 5-10 with his wand of a foot - remember that crucial goal vrs Wigan or the beauty V Roma
 
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Toni Kroos
 
Andre Gomes, Kroos won't happen.
I think Andre Gomes and Carrick are different players. Either way, we have to wait one year to replace Carrick. I agree with you about Kroos, it doesn't sound realistic... Well, if Real Madrid sign Pogba, it could be a small chance that Kroos could be available.
 
I'm glad that he signed a new contract. He was still our best midfielder last season even though he had his worst season. To replace Carrick means you need two things. Knows how to play as a defensive mid and knows how dictate a tempo. Either we sign 1 player who has both things or combining these two ability from two different players. Mensah + Pjanic sounds good to me. But reality Mensah is probably not ready yet and Pjanic probably choose Juve or Barca over us.
 
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Any realistic prime defensive midfielders or playmakers linked at all?
 
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Any realistic prime defensive midfielders or playmakers linked at all?

Doesn't look like we are bothering this summer, the plan for a midfield buy appears to be getting a dynamic CM that does his best work in the final 3rd.
 
Give Morgan a chance
Give Morgan a chance
Give Morgan a chance
Give Morgan a chance
Give Morgan a chance
Give Morgan a chance
 
Morgan and Fosu Mensah
 
Hopefully the lack of a 'replacement' means we're giving Morgan another crack and signing Poggers.
 
Schneiderlin can never be a Carrick replacement, he's the guy that plays with the Carrick replacement.
 
No matter what the system is you need 1 CM that can pass it well and dictate play, Schneiderlin will never be that guy.
it's so funny because the same people who wanted schneiderlin so bad last year now want kante.

The cafe can be so funny.
 
it's so funny because the same people who wanted schneiderlin so bad last year now want kante.

The cafe can be so funny.

I can see why people think Kante is an upgrade on Schneiderlin but neither are gonna fill Carrick's role.

We don't particularly need a Carrick clone in the same way Carrick wasn't a clone of Keane

Not a clone but Carrick didn't take over from Keane so much as added the type of modern deep lying playmaker we'd not had before as we looked to match up with Europe again. One of the CM's in the 3 needs to be a playmaker IMO, whether he's playing with a DM that sits like Fabrgeas with Matic, or if he's the sitter like Alonso with Modric or going further back like a Keane and Scholes with one box to box and one playmaker.
 
No matter what the system is you need 1 CM that can pass it well and dictate play, Schneiderlin will never be that guy.

I agree, but the dictator of play doesn't need to be a defensive midfielder. Morgan could the more defensive player with someone else dictating play.
 
I agree, but the dictator of play doesn't need to be a defensive midfielder. Morgan could the more defensive player with someone else dictating play.

True, as I said to golden blunder you can have the playmaker next to a ball winner like Matic/Fabregas or Keane/Scholes which gives the playmaker a littler less defensive responsibility.
 
it's so funny because the same people who wanted schneiderlin so bad last year now want kante.

The cafe can be so funny.

The procession of shiny new toys, but somehow Christmas never quite arrives before the endless clamour arises for yet more money to be spent.

"I'll scweam and I'll swceam until I'm blue in the face. I want my next pwesent now! The old one is soooo old."
 
We have wanted a player like Marco Verratti or Luka Modric ever since we lost Scholes. Carrick came close in a period of poor midfielders.
 
We don't particularly need a Carrick clone in the same way Carrick wasn't a clone of Keane

It's not that we don't need one, it's that you just can't get one. How many teams have replaced players with like for like replacements? It hardly ever happens because it's so difficult to do. We never replaced Keane or Scholes, even Carrick wasn't the same as Scholes and lent to a different style of play.

What we need to do is find a good cm who we can fit a good system around and reinvent the way we play. If we played 433 with Carrick deep lying playmaker, maybe we need to sign a box to box and play a 4231 with more of a counter attacking system
 
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We'd have to shape the team around him to compensate for certain shortcomings but if we want to have a deep lying playmaker in the Carrick mould Blind is a good in house replacement.

If we bring in Pogba, we can have a midfield 3 with Blind deepest and have Pogba and Herrera/Schneiderlin to do the running for Blind. We'd have to give up a #10 but Mata will likely be gone, Mikhitarayan can play on the right and hopefully Jose sees what we all see with Rooney and Fellaini.
 
No matter what the system is you need 1 CM that can pass it well and dictate play, Schneiderlin will never be that guy.

Not really. I don't think either Dier or Dembele is a player who can pass it well and dictate play.
 
No matter what the system is you need 1 CM that can pass it well and dictate play, Schneiderlin will never be that guy.

Not really. I don't think either Dier or Dembele is a player who can pass it well and dictate play. And Spurs finished 2nd with those midfields. It actually depends with the manager's playing style. But Schneiderlin is average to be our midfielder.
 
No matter what the system is you need 1 CM that can pass it well and dictate play, Schneiderlin will never be that guy.

Not really. I don't think either Dier or Dembele is a player who can pass it well and dictate play. And Spurs finished 2nd with those midfields. It actually depends with the manager's playing style. But Schneiderlin is average to be our midfielder.
 
Not really. I don't think either Dier or Dembele is a player who can pass it well and dictate play. And Spurs finished 2nd with those midfields. It actually depends with the manager's playing style. But Schneiderlin is average to be our midfielder.

Dier is actually decent at this.