Frenkie de Jong | The last muppeting lap
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Huge decade ahead!
I agree with this. My balls are tingling. Crystal balls that is.
He's arrived for his first day back, one of the earliest. Probably wants to say goodbye right... Right 
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Hopefully we get a video of him driving straight through the barriers on the way out of that prison, Jesse breaking bad style.
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Hopefully we get a video of him driving straight through the barriers on the way out of that prison, Jesse breaking bad style.
May write off this millennium. Clean slate.
This one is in the bag.
The economic lever doesn't change the wage bill. Keeping de Jong and giving Lewandowski what he'll demand can't both happen if they want other signings.
If he still doesn't ask for a transfer today we should walk away
Can't wait for some training pics so our experts group here could analyse his body language
“As you can see he opened his foot to a 70 degree angle whilst making that pass. Normally he opens it to a 90 degree angle… and if I place my compass just here… you can see the direction his foot is pointing at is that of Manchester. It’s on like donkey kong”
Damn, that doesn't sound great re Martinez and Antony.
He's arrived for his first day back, one of the earliest. Probably wants to say goodbye right... Right
Keen to impress Xavi and save his Barca career, first one in to training!
Big week
"His arm is outstretched and index finger pointing, you might think he's pointing to another player, but no! If you analyse the shadows you can clearly see him pointing towards Manchester. It's on."
We seem to be being completely naive this window. We have a new manager with new ideas and even if the modus operandi is for Joel Glazer to have to check every little detail on a deal you would think as owners they would throw the playbook out and gotten the majority of the players he wanted within the first few weeks of the window being open ready for the tour so he could bed them into the squad and have everyone playing to the same style. As usual though their dithering is slowing us down. Surely by now we should know whether it's more likely that the deal happens or not and if it's not looking good just move on. This isn't me saying this being a bored fan clamouring for info every few seconds by the way - it's saying it from the point of view that those in the upper echelons of the club have learnt lessons from previous windows, swift deals can be done if you want them- look how quick we got Ronaldo last year and how quick Liverpool got Nunez this year- its detrimental to any plans ETH has to be moving so slowly surely? My only optimism for next season stems from that we seem to have a coach who will improve who we already have barring a couple of pillocks in the squad with nothing between their ears. This summer is already starting to reek of last minute Dybala on deadline day.
By all accounts we've signed 2 players. What would you have done differently in the FDJ and Martinez deals?(mentioning those because they're our biggest deals)
Barcelona's inability to pay it's employees is neither our fault nor in our hands to speed things up. If LVG wasn't a bitter old man we'd have signed Timber by now and not bothered on Lisandro but we've had to go for him as a plan B. It's not our fault Ajax are being pricks switching goal posts on his fee. I reckon both deals get done eventually and while Utd do deserve criticism on some things it's excessively cynical to blame them for these two deals taking time over factors outta their hands.
Oh no! He drank the koolaid!
Won't De Jong be entitled to the wages he is owed whether he stays or leaves?
Depends on his contract, which none of us know
The whole idea that they can just decide to not pay him his deferred wages is insane. If there's a significant disagreement it has to do with how many installments over how much time, and what bonuses he is entitled to. I reckon he wants all his deferred wages paid out of the transfer fee they recieve from us, and he wants his loyalty bonus for the next two years - given that Barcelona are the ones pushing the sale and not him. Barca would then owe him more than €20M. Barcelona will want to pay this over a long period as possible, while I imagine de Jong is probably not keen on being paid in say 50k installments a month over the next 30 years.
Barcelona are clearly mindful over the fact that if they pay him what they owe him, they can not afford to sign half of the players they want to - and if they pay him in large installments - say 100k a week for the next 4 years - that will significantly eat into their wage budget for years to come. They will also want to avoid to add to that debt by trying to argue he hasn't triggered various bonuses for whatever reason.
There's also a tax issue to consider. There are probably some significant differences in tax law in Spain and the UK, which would make one option more favorable than the other for de Jong. I imagine there are scenarios which would benefit Barcelona more where he'd lose millions in taxes. These are issues that his agent and lawyers will have to get to grips with.
We'll sign Dybala on transfer deadline day with a loan deal for Dembele.
If this does not conclude we should definitely stop dealings with Barca.
It's become embarassing.
It's become embarassing.
I like the club briefings every third week giving us hope.
This week should be make or break. No one can be interested in this dragging out further.
This week should be make or break. No one can be interested in this dragging out further.
Negotiations is not embarrassing. It’s how you do serious business.
I highly doubt if Frenkie and the laporte legal battle will end that quickly. And if it does get resolved I bet Frenkie will going though the United/FdJ contract with a fine tooth comb this time.
A lot of folks here would get ripped off in a Bangkok wet market.
FdJ first one in to lay out the cones, he has already stuck a Latte on Xavis desk along with a souvenir from his hols.
Fletcher probably persuaded him that McT is the next Roy Keane.
To be fair, alot of similarities between himself at 25 and McT at the same age.
Common thread being they were both made scapegoats by supporters and routinely criticised. Until he got into his prime, then he was almost our best player
Thats what happens when you get promoted 2 times in 6 months.
I feel like if he does not get De Jong, given that's his boy and who he wants to shape his team around, then Ten Hag would have to sign two midfielders instead to have the impact he wants in midfield.
If that's true, then either he's absolutely certain that he's going to get him and has all the assurances he needs, or he doesn't see anyone else available who would fit his plans
So negotiations is not the way you do business?
Of course - but not embarassing 2 months of licking Barca and also knowing that the player never once said he wants to come here.
This is not acceptable from our club.
Have you seen any other serious club going through this?
Did City/Liverpool/Spurs etc take two months to get their players?!
Ridiculous.
It's Di Maria all over again!
Of course - but not embarassing 2 months of licking Barca and also knowing that the player never once said he wants to come here.
This is not acceptable from our club.
Have you seen any other serious club going through this?
Did City/Liverpool/Spurs etc take two months to get their players?!
Ridiculous.
No other club. No other.
Of course - but not embarassing 2 months of licking Barca and also knowing that the player never once said he wants to come here.
This is not acceptable from our club.
Have you seen any other serious club going through this?
Did City/Liverpool/Spurs etc take two months to get their players?!
Ridiculous.
I got the memo, I need to make a huge drama out of it.
Licking Barca.. Jesus.
Do you know Frenkie has said that? Sounds like you're privy to his private conversations.
Of course - but not embarassing 2 months of licking Barca and also knowing that the player never once said he wants to come here.
This is not acceptable from our club.
Have you seen any other serious club going through this?
Did City/Liverpool/Spurs etc take two months to get their players?!
Ridiculous.
City spent a year chasing Haaland.
Nobody mention this till now but yeah!
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