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Frenkie de Jong | The last muppeting lap
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What would actually happen if he stayed, didn’t take the pay cut, and just asked what was expected of him? Can he not sue the club?
Big week next week.
They would just bench him/put him in the stands, no? I know Xavi likes him, but it would be a club decision.
Big 56 hours ahead.
But what's their endgame in this, if they can't afford him?
But they would still have to pay him, so he might as well play.
What do you mean "We should leak other midfield players?"
Have you thought that maybe there are multiple people here and people can have different opinions?
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Stalemate. Frenkie says he loves the club, club says prove it.
However this ends, Barcelona have come out of this looking like utter pricks. It's a lose-lose for them. It's embarrassing for them as a club (and a business) for it to have been made public that they've either been unable or unwilling to pay their players.
And still, top players line up to play for them. It boggles the mind
The only draw Barcelona have these days are the debt drawings that are financially sucking the life out of the club day by day. Any player would have to be mad to want to join them. It also baffles me these young players like Gavi signing away their lives on long term contracts in the knowledge that they might not even be honoured a few years down the line.
Well looks like he's gone then doesn't it. He's already said he's not accepting another pay cut, rightly so
I reckon we’ll know between now and the first of September.
It's mad. I keep expecting their bubble to burst and it has to at some point...surely? This just isn't sustainable, but they seem to keep doing it with seemingly very few consequences.
Still time to walk away
That would be true Barca masterclass. Pay him his wages, don't use the player, don't get any good fee for selling him.
And probably to forfeit the 17m… doubt he accepts that but if yes, you cant help him
They can ask him to leave the club but he doesn't have to. Then what? They don't pay him. They pay him but don't play him? It's nonsense.
Why would he want to be somewhere where he's not at all wanted.
Is there a chance that they are delaying for that very point? If De Jong’s transfer is done after that date they’ll be able use the entirety of the transfer amount on new players?
I think it may happen in early August which isn’t ideal to stop our fans baying for blood. However, in my humble opinion it’s not a big deal as he’ll of gotten his fitness up with Barca and it shouldn’t take him long to slot back into EtH’s way of playing again.
Or I could be completely wrong and it turns out a waste of time
That's what I imagine we're doing. We know we have a strong negotiating position, so we're willing to risk it. Barca played all their cards - Laporta said he'd do his best to make him stay, they faked Chelsea interest etc. We didn't fall for it.
It's still risky - De Jong might change his mind, other clubs can still come in but I think we're playing our cards right. I'd say wait till end of July and say adios and chase backups in August.
This.
I hope this is true so we will know soon.
Imagine being that desperate to stay you accept that...
Maybe, maybe not. It doesn’t excuse a bs tweet
High wages. It happens. Gareth Bale. Phil Jones. Ronaldo next season.
So he gets paid what was promised?
I hope we don't get him just so Barca have to pay him.
Feels like we will in a week or two offer to pay the deferred wages for them within our own wage/bonus', which is clearly what Barca are hoping for.
Feels like we will in a week or two offer to pay the deferred wages for them within our own wage/bonus', which is clearly what Barca are hoping for.
They'll offer him a pay cut with vague promises of distant future riches...and he'll take it.
Same here, it's not even that I don't want United to get him, it's more that I want to see Barcelona burn to the ground financially and get into all kinds of legal troubles if they refuse to pay the man what he's owed. He has zero needs to lower his demands or settle for anything they offer.
I don't think we want him enough to make him the best paid player in the league though, especially with the fee.
Who said that will happen?
If he stays he's a mug, regardless of whether he comes here or someone comes in last minute to take him. They way they've treated him, love the club or not he should refuse to play for them ever again.
Or bleed them dry financially, it's honestly the best punishment, anything else just helps them overall.
The people wanting him to stay at Barca to hurt them, over him coming here and actually helping the team you support are bonkers. Who gives a feck about Barca.
If we pay the 17 million then effectively we are doing that. Basically nobody is buying this guy on Barca's terms.
I don't know was that from a good source? If the club formally asks him and still shows up for training then he'll probably play for nothing. But at the same time I have to think his agent would have given us the heads up that he would be staying at Barcelona whatever way it would work.
If neither Barcelona nor de Jong budge, than the only other options would be United compensating him for that (which would make him probably the best paid player in the league) or the move doesn't happen. Barca terms are absolutely insane.
A question for anyone who knows : If Frenkie will hopefully move - Can he still sue Barca legaly ?
Personally I know that if a player go to a new club - his new contract from the new club cancels the contract from the old contract and because of that he won't be able to take legal actions against Barca.
Personally I know that if a player go to a new club - his new contract from the new club cancels the contract from the old contract and because of that he won't be able to take legal actions against Barca.
You need to edit again chap, that makes no sense.
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