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Frenkie de Jong | The last muppeting lap
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Can someone explain how you can sign new players if you can't fulfill existing contacts?
Levers or something
They’ve not been registered by La Liga yet and they have a wave of new money arriving in a few weeks.
Again if de Jong wasn't for sale we'd have backed off ages ago. This is all posturing on Barcas side. Make it seem to the fans that Barca and Laporta are doing all they can to keep him but eventually he'll be sold citing financial reasons
Can’t he just take them to court? He’s legally owed the deferred money whether he plays for them or not. They can’t just not pay him.
This is Saturday all over again isn't it
Let's hope he is worth the hassle Mister ETH. If Frenkie comes over and is Martial type depression then we are fecked. Then its on ETH.
Of course. He’s gone from saying I’ll do everything to keep him to basically I’ll sell when there’s an offer we can’t turn down. Put that with Romero’s comment last night and you have a bigger picture.
Yeah I get that but FdJ is not that small relatively. He has value, influence and a platform. Like just look at CR, players have power.
Pretty much
it’a a mixture of moderately achievable targets (commercial and on field success = more $) and fraudulent misrepresentation. Everything will look normal for the players signing, there’s just a massive caveat that it could go bellies up at any given moment. Yet they still sign. One day we will get the true story from a player who got majorly screwed over.
Yeah, but under employment law, surely that is for existing contacts first?
Don’t know mate
He’s not jeopardising anything. There’s a contract that says he will get x amount, Barcelona haven’t honoured that, they’re in a breach of contract so he has every right to make this a legal issue and transfer to United. Whether or not he says anything in public will have no impact on a legally binding contract.
FdJ is a smashing player and would love him at utd but need to give Barcelona timeline, move on to other targets.
End of day if we pull plug on deal still Barcelona be in a financial mess. So happy to seem them struggle and the player should know how the club are treating him by way things are going.
End of day if we pull plug on deal still Barcelona be in a financial mess. So happy to seem them struggle and the player should know how the club are treating him by way things are going.
We better not be stupid enough to agree to foot some of that bill by agreeing to higher wages.
This is obviously not a true picture of what is happening in negotiations. Two T1 sources have both said negotiations are positive today.
Yeah, there's obviously a massive gulf between what's happening in the room v the rumour mill.
Surely him writing off is curtains for us
I don’t think they’re employment contracts, they’re most likely some kind of ‘consultancy’ contract which is why they have a fixed time and expire unlike employment contracts which turn ‘permanent’ after two years and can no longer have a fixed end date.
Meaning you can agree a contract to represent Barcelona at a return of x but they have no obligation to play you or even register you as a player, unless that is stated in your contract. Even then that could change based on circumstance.
I think this would be an issue for the PFA to sort out if Spain has the equivalent.
We’re about to find out just how much he “loves” Barcelona
Yes he can and he probably will once he leaves and they don’t pay him. They’ll be trying to keep him and promise him loads of money in 5 years of he plays for free between now and then. That way they avoid being dragged to court over unpaid wages.
Why not? If it means getting de Jong... im sure Manchester United can afford it after Pogba, Cavani, Mata, Lingard and maybe Ronaldo are of the wage bill.
They probably won't want to get involved with their crown jewel club, so hard to see how this total mess gets resolved.
He won’t write it off. He will feck over other people by doing that who are also owed money out of the deal.
No reason to panic tbh. They can't sign any players without selling first. And apart from De Jong, it doesn't seem like they have any high value assets which they are willing to sell. It should ultimately happen but it also demonstrates our position. We are neither willing to pay extra to get it over quickly nor do we have enough balls to walk away. Regardless of the result, neither club will come out looking any better post this saga.
So that's that then...
Ten Hag still might want him though.
If the player is in dialogue with Ten Hag and is open to a move, it still might be possible.
I think it's a question about money.
I think the PR for Barcelona over this matter is far worse than the legal or fiscal ramifications. Try attracting big names when the world knows they won’t pay you and you have to sue them to get your wages.
I’m also in favour of doing so to be honest. Not only will it go in our favour with Frenkie but it shows ETH we are backing him.
He has a contract already. He doesn't have to sign anything to stay. Whether he gets picked is another matter. Barca are the ones who need to either sell or change his contract. It's just a game of chicken.
Which agent would willingly put their clients there too.
They don’t have a choice, that’s why Laporte said that. Pretty much word for word what he said about Messi.
They’ll blame La Liga and oil clubs when he goes next week.
Maybe we should put out a poll on the CAF to see who thinks we should pay the extra to get it sorted and who thinks we stick to our stance.
Yep, agents are going to work for free and maybe get a handout in 5 years
And they will absolutely blink first because they feel enough pressure to keep coming out with this shithousing PR campaign.
It’s not about being able to afford it. Why the feck should the club pay for Barca’s feck up?
Do any of you actually exist or work in the real world, the fact you all struggle to differentiate between what is said in private and a narrative being set in public is incredible.
We would never sell Madrid a virus then sold them our best player the year later.
Its so obvious to see its quite worrying people just accept something on face value especially in the business world.
Funny how they now have a choice after selling some of their merchandise and TV rights for 25 years. Only 25 years. If they need more money they can just sell more or make it 100 years. Their future money is not even theirs. Never liked the "more than a club" bollocks but I guess it serves them right. They are no longer a club, they're a startup waiting for angel investors so they can burn more money."Unless we have no choice"
Oh my god what a cnut.
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