Frenkie de Jong | The last muppeting lap

[Cassidy]

Ross has "Football Journalist" in his Twitter profile, but he seems to be more of is an ITK than an actual journalist. We'll see what happens with him.

Fixed for you

 

[Trex]

Who is he?

He also claim we'll know by tomorrow morning if Martinez deal would be done before we take off on tour so we'll see.

 

[Berbasbullet]

He also claim we'll know by tomorrow morning if Martinez deal would be done before we take off on tour so we'll see.

Big claims then, could make or break him as an itk

 

[Berbaclass]

He also claim we'll know by tomorrow morning if Martinez deal would be done before we take off on tour so we'll see.

I mean that's an educated guess for anyone really.

 

[horsechoker]

Shit

Let's see if anyone bites

 

[bosnian_red]

So far Eriksen is the only that can potentially improve the team. Hard to find excitement for a backup left back when there's a need to fill the holes in ST, RW, RB, and the midfield.



No way he genuinely believes Scott is an option. Lad is so awful I honestly doubt he'd play for Brentford.

You'll be surprised when McTominay is a regular starter next to De Jong...

But given how much Shaw is injured, Malacia is a welcome addition. Either he just takes over as a starter, or pushes Shaw into going back to 20/21 form, either way is great for us (plus Malacia is likely going to take over as the starter before long anyway). Telles is liability whenever he plays so it's a huge improvement.

 

[Brownie85]

Shit

Let's see if anyone bites

Well crap... Thats just absolutely ruined my night!

Screw Gove, Johnson and the Tories!

 

[SilentWitness]

Oh is that Mane’s lover/partner/significant other/future wife?

@SilentWitness

Goading a mod when you have 15 warnings isn’t the smartest tactic.

 

[Trex]

This guy has been nailing our recent business in advance



Also claims Eriksen's medical and announcement will be tomorrow and that we're aiming to complete the FDJ deal in time for the official kit reveal on Friday

I call bullshit

 

[Michael T]

He's well within his right to take the 3rd option though. No pay cut and stay

So, is he entitled to just ignore the hype and media attention, blank calls and just turn up for training at Barca?

 

[TheReligion]

Goading a mod when you have 15 warnings isn’t the smartest tactic.

Lighten up!

This guy has been nailing our recent business in advance



Also claims Eriksen's medical and announcement will be tomorrow and that we're aiming to complete the FDJ deal in time for the official kit reveal on Friday

How accurate has this guy been? Would be nice to go on tour with the three of them (and Martinez).

 

[Shakesy]

I'm skeptical.

You've never struck me as the sceptical type

 

[Godfather]

This guy has been nailing our recent business in advance



Also claims Eriksen's medical and announcement will be tomorrow and that we're aiming to complete the FDJ deal in time for the official kit reveal on Friday

He has absolutely no clue looking at his timeline.

 

[Wednesday at Stoke]

I think it’ll be a relief for everyone if this gets over the line.

 

[Berbaclass]

You've never struck me as the sceptical type

It's because I'm so positive about Frenkie isn't it.

 

[Aeryis]

You'll be surprised when McTominay is a regular starter next to De Jong...

I won't be surprised, i'll just be disappointed. After 3 seasons of McTominay being a regular player at our club, it should be blatantly obvious to anyone that he shouldn't be anywhere near this club. 3 summer transfer windows and none of them sought to rectify this issue. It further solidifies their football incompetency. Hopefully De Jong, Eriksen, and Fred (maybe Garner too if he's good enough) keep him out of the pitch for as long as possible and that eventually next summer he'll feck off. Honestly tired of these horrible players with no business being in this club but still are simply because they're local boys.

 

[sewey89]

Shit

Let's see if anyone bites

To the Jacob Rees-Mogg thread

 

[Shakesy]

It's because I'm so positive about Frenkie isn't it.

It ain't over till Berbaclass says it's over

 

[Berbaclass]

Apparently Laporta has done another interview claiming Frenkie stays

Spoiler

 

[NinjaZombie]

How is it possible that they took no lessons from the Messi fiasco?

De Jong on deferred wages, Pique the same, probably loads more and even while they dig themselves deeper with existing players they're out there trying to bring in more big names.

Barca fans, what am I missing?

Barca is like a broke person who pays his credit card bills with another credit card.

 

[Mmm-Qatarian]

Apparently Laporta has done another interview claiming Frenkie stays

Spoiler

Wait, has he actually or is this some meme I'm not learned enough to understand?

 

[TheReligion]

Apparently Laporta has done another interview claiming Frenkie stays

Spoiler

True story?

 

[Berbaclass]

Wait, has he actually or is this some meme I'm not learned enough to understand?

It's a joke mate

 

[Mmm-Qatarian]

It's a joke mate

Goddammit Berbaclass, you can't be playing with my emotions like that! Some of us here aren't smart enough to understand these jokes!

 

[pocco]

Nobody would and that is absolutely bonkers logic. Loving a club doesn't mean allowing the club to treat you as a doormat.

I disagree. If the club is genuinely struggling and wanted to keep you, and you were pretty rich from it all already, then you'd consider it.

Pretty sure there's lots of examples of it. In the last year alone other Barcelona and Juventus players have done it. Covid hit everyone, including football clubs. Barca have been stupid with their spending, which hasn't helped. But the majority of their team are going through it and I bet they don't all leave.

 

[Berbaclass]

Goddammit Berbaclass, you can't be playing with my emotions like that! Some of us here aren't smart enough to understand these jokes!

I thought everyone knew the Bagdad Bob meme

 

[Brownie85]

I disagree. If the club is genuinely struggling and wanted to keep you, and you were pretty rich from it all already, then you'd consider it.

Pretty sure there's lots of examples of it. In the last year alone other Barcelona and Juventus players have done it. Covid hit everyone, including football clubs. Barca have been stupid with their spending, which hasn't helped. But the majority of their team are going through it and I bet they don't all leave.

But then after you've took a huge pay cut to keep them happy and afloat, they go and sign 2 other players on mega wages making you feel like a right mug

 

[bosnian_red]

I won't be surprised, i'll just be disappointed. After 3 seasons of McTominay being a regular player at our club, it should be blatantly obvious to anyone that he shouldn't be anywhere near this club. 3 summer transfer windows and none of them sought to rectify this issue. It further solidifies their football incompetency. Hopefully De Jong, Eriksen, and Fred (maybe Garner too if he's good enough) keep him out of the pitch for as long as possible and that eventually next summer he'll feck off. Honestly tired of these horrible players with no business being in this club but still are simply because they're local boys.

I'm saying it because I genuinely think Ten Hag will think he has attributes that can compliment De Jong well. Teach him some better positioning and structure and I think he'll compliment it well enough. You look at Ajax last year... They used Alvarez as a DM next to Gravenberch. Not like he's a playmaker in any way, he's essentially a pure ball winner and the passing was left to literally the rest of the team who were all very adept playmakers (barring the striker). Ten hag seems to be aiming for that as well here, and I think next to de Jong and Eriksen will be a physical player who can be a ball winner, and then just keep it simple on the ball.

 

[McGrathsipan]

You didn’t show this side of yourself when you asked everyone to rig that painting contest..

 

[Leftback99]

This guy has been nailing our recent business in advance



Also claims Eriksen's medical and announcement will be tomorrow and that we're aiming to complete the FDJ deal in time for the official kit reveal on Friday

He doesn't have a clue. Just read the rest of his tweets. Why do people fall for this stuff every summer.

 

[Berbaclass]

You didn’t show this side of yourself when you asked everyone to rig that painting contest..

 

[copen1945]

What I find strange is that we have still not agreed personal terms with him. Usually clubs start talking to players soon after they get in touch with the selling club

The problem with deferring wages is that if Barca becomes insolvent/bankrupt then banks and vendors have the first right over any cash from asset sales. The players will be left with whatever little is remaining. I can see the following scenario play out if Barca go insolvent:

1. Spanish/Catalonia government tries to help Barca but European courts call it unfair state sponsored help. Thanks to Tebas' attacks, City/PSG will be more than happy to sue if direct government involvement takes place.
2. There won't be a rapid fire sale of assets (players) as this would make Barca unattractive. Instead Barca will try to follow a German model of part fan ownership. Most buyers who will be interested will be corporations/big business, as wealthy individuals would prefer full control, unlike corporations who'd be more focused on their ability to market products.
3. Either ways the new owners will demand zero responsibility for any previous liabilities (including deferred player wages). I can see numerous lawsuits from players/clubs/vendors challenging the fair value/acquisition cost of Barca. If the acquisition cost is too low, players may not get all their deferred wages and clubs owed transfer money may not get all their transfer fees from the stake sale.
4. The divestment process will keep dragging on because of this. Barca keeps getting less valuable and post-acquisition I can see them as a Europa-level team for a few years.

If I was a young player entering my prime and yet to earn a lot of money, I'd avoid Barca till they were fully sorted.

I don't really keep up with Barcelona news. Is this more or less the worst case scenario? Or is this fairly likely? This sounds like a catastrophe.

 

[pocco]

There’s so many people in here that think this is a done deal and get scratchy at anyone who has a different opinion. Of course we all want him to sign but this has dragged on and on now. IF this does fall through then it really wouldn’t be surprising. Been there, done it and got the t-shirt
Glazers out: Parasites on the club.

It's beyond cringeworthy. Grown men foaming at the mouth of anybody dares question anything the same ones who earlier today said they're not letting it get to them anymore, then you skim through a few pages and there like vultures waiting to question anybody that is not in 100% belief this will happen. It's finally become entertaining if anything this thread.

 

[Berbaclass]

It's beyond cringeworthy. Grown men foaming at the mouth of anybody dares question anything the same ones who earlier today said they're not letting it get to them anymore, then you skim through a few pages and there like vultures waiting to question anybody that is not in 100% belief this will happen. It's finally become entertaining if anything this thread.

I have no problem with a different opinion unless it's totally unsubstantiated. Lots of people being negative because they are impatient.

 

[Summit]

He doesn't have a clue. Just read the rest of his tweets. Why do people fall for this stuff every summer.

Well he's put his head on the block with a deadline.

 

[RedDevil@84]

So we are still negotiating that 20M euros? Or has anything moved ahead?

 

[NoLogo]

Jeez, this thread is just cocks out, cocks in, cocks out, cocks in. For fecks sake...

 

[hellhunter]

Jeez, this thread is just cocks out, cocks in, cocks out, cocks in. For fecks sake...

I've been reliably informed that this is great fun

 

[Charles Miller]

Jeez, this thread is just cocks out, cocks in, cocks out, cocks in. For fecks sake...

And Di Maria.

 

[NicolaSacco]

It's beyond cringeworthy. Grown men foaming at the mouth of anybody dares question anything the same ones who earlier today said they're not letting it get to them anymore, then you skim through a few pages and there like vultures waiting to question anybody that is not in 100% belief this will happen. It's finally become entertaining if anything this thread.

I think there’s a psychological aspect here (not just here actually, but in life), where being utterly, unbreakably steadfast in your view is somehow a character asset. Only the weak dither, etc. It’s a bit bizarre- I think it’s a far greater asset to have an opinion by all means, think it through, and genuinely believe in it, but to also accept your own inherent biases and the fact that you might just have got it wrong, and that there’s no shame in that.